Westminster Politics

Why is the Boris Johnson thing even a story.

Summarised perfectly below!

It seems like there was more than arguing going on though. If the neighbour heard banging on walls and the voice of a woman saying that he's fecked her sofa then he's got a problem with his temper.

Nah, feck off with all this "it's not a big deal" pish. If Brown was crucified in the press for calling a bigoted woman a, well, "bigoted woman" in a private conversation then this is worthy of the same level of pressure.

It's the same "let's not get carried away" crap that gets pulled out whenever a Tory does something arseholey. Francis Maude tells people during a massive petrol price shortage to merely "top up your tanks" in advance and store some in your shed. Liam Fox fecks his best mate in hotels on the taxpayer's coin and May comes out unscathed after her odious response to Grenfell and Windrush. And it's always never a big deal. feck it. Anyone in another job would be cast out and yet these fecks get away with this shit weekly because they get their media friends to control the narrative when it suits them, and attack their buddies at the first sign of weakness. Blair did it, so did Thatcher, and this new crop are experts at it because the public, after the amazing manipulation with the banking crisis now being the fault of immigrants and folk on benefits in the eyes of I'm-Alright-Jack types, eat it all up.

And that's all I've got to say about that.
Spot on.
 
To be fair his evasive answers in that tory event yesterday was about as cowardly and unimpressive as you'll ever see any politicians aiming for any national job be.
 
I find the response to this Boris dispute fecking terrifying. I mean people often spin their logic (usually unconsciously) to fit their opinions, something which happens in the football forum a lot, however we're now at the point that twitter has prominent journalists and MPs doing the same.

It's like brexit has brought the spirit of RAWK to the masses.
 
"When I make promises as a politician I always keep them!"

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Inevitable, but isn't going to make one iota of difference. He'll still get picked with ease, and if not then Hunt is a disaster too.

I agree, we are at Trumpian levels of politics in this country when politicians can state lies and no one in the media will pick them up on it. The blind public will keep on voting for these morons.
 
Boris has got sloppy Steve’s support despite denying the relationship previously:


Is that from the same guardian documentary a while back. It's worth watching, Bannon has been built up massively but the documentary shows he's just a complete joke.
 
For a populist, he's not making himself very popular.
 


I'd run as fecking fast as my feet carry me if I had Boris Johnson defending me:wenger:


Just imagine Bojo in a fistfight. He'd knock himself out in the attempt to kick the other guy in the shin:lol:
 
A decade of Tory austerity. I marvel at how they still have enough seats to form governments.
 
Why are the Mail and Telegraph sticking up for him? Is it tied up with Brexit?

You have to remember that these right wing papers have an agenda and that is to project the Tories image so as to get and keep them in power.
They also have the same agenda to rubbish the opposition although Labour are doing that for them.
Never believe one single word printed by any paper. Most of it is made up and sensationalist lies to try and sell their crappy product.
Only fit for one thing and that is not for reading.
 
A decade of Tory austerity. I marvel at how they still have enough seats to form governments.

And by the way. The Tories austerity programme was nothing to do with the economy.
It was everything to do with macho politics.
Remember the quote from the idiot Cameron - we are all in it together.
The bankers took the country to the brink of collapse due to their complete and utter greed.
And the workers, the sick and the vulnerable get a proper kicking as a consequence.
 
A decade of Tory austerity. I marvel at how they still have enough seats to form governments.
Austerity hasn't really hit tory voters/base. Add in the Brexit glue and these two together give the tories enough for now to something of a force(Without huge changes, which I can't see happening the tory party is fecked.)

Just goes to show how rediculously gullible people really are.
Sadly a ton of poor and young people don't vote.
 
Austerity hasn't really hit tory voters/base. Add in the Brexit glue and these two together give the tories enough for now to something of a force(Without huge changes, which I can't see happening the tory party is fecked.)


Sadly a ton of poor and young people don't vote.

Absolutely correct. And of course it is in the Tories interest to keep it that way because they know that traditional Tory voters are not the young or the poor.
Does anybody seriously think that Boris is interested in them.
His only interest is Boris and power.
 
Because like most right-wing Tory types they are hypocrites.

You have to remember that these right wing papers have an agenda and that is to project the Tories image so as to get and keep them in power.
They also have the same agenda to rubbish the opposition although Labour are doing that for them.
Never believe one single word printed by any paper. Most of it is made up and sensationalist lies to try and sell their crappy product.
Only fit for one thing and that is not for reading.

Johnson gets paid £275k/year by the Telegraph for writing a column so they'll be supporting him for that alone but his Brexit stance will be part of it too. Both papers are fascinated with him.

Totally agree but if keeping Tories in is their ultimate aim, isn’t Johnson the least safe option now after this story?
 


That's how the Tories will remain relevant, move further to the right. Continue and extend their pact with Bannon and his ilk as well as further with the Brexit Party.

Johnson's comments about Muslim women and letterboxes were manufactured with the entire intent of appealing to this base.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/24/brexit-party-peterborough-byelection-postal-vote

Brexit party challenges byelection result over 'postal vote corruption'

The Brexit party is to launch a formal legal challenge against the result of this month’s Peterborough byelection, where it was narrowly beaten by Labour, claiming that allegations of corruption connected to postal votes need to be investigated.

Nigel Farage, the party’s leader, insisted the challenge was about more than the loss to Labour by 683 votes, saying the wider use of postal votes was open to abuse and needed to be investigated.

“I know people will say: ‘Oh, but it’s sour grapes.’ It isn’t,” Farage told a press conference in London.

“Actually, as far as I’m concerned, this is about a lot more than Peterborough. It is about a system that is wide open to corruption, to intimidation, to bribery, to abuse on a whole number of levels. I have mentioned this a number of times in the past.”

The party plans to issue a petition under the 1983 Representation of the People Act, which allows election results to be challenged retrospectively for reasons including errors or corruption connected to the polling.

Such challenges are rare, with the last successful one coming in 2010, when the Labour minister Phil Woolas was ejected from his Oldham East and Saddleworth constituency after a specially convened election court upheld a complaint that Woolas had knowingly lied about his Lib Dem opponent.

Police investigated five complaints connected to the Peterborough byelection on 6 June, in which Labour’s Lisa Forbes defeated the Brexit party’s Mike Greene in a vote Farage’s new organisation had been tipped to win.

Labour has rejected any wrongdoing, and police have ruled that no offences were committed in three of the five complaints so far looked at.

The Brexit party chair, Richard Tice, conceded that the evidence so far seemed uncertain, but said that was why a full investigation was required.

“You’re absolutely right – there are a lot of rumours, a lot of hearsay, some of which is just that,” Tice said. “There is evidence emerging. That will be presented to the electoral court. It’s wrong to prejudge that, or announce that now.

“It’s only by having a full petition that we can truly get to the bottom of what may or may not have happened here, but also the lessons for the broader system.”

He said there were many unanswered issues: “Why were there rumours that morning that the Labour party had won by 500 votes? There are so many questions. We need answers. And the only mechanism available to us to give us those answers is to lodge a petition under the Representation of the People Act 1983. So we will be doing that this week.”

Both Farage and Tice said they hoped more widely for UK elections to return to the pre-2001 system of voters only being allowed a postal ballot if they can show they are away or ill, rather than on demand. Since then the proportion of general election votes submitted by post has risen from about 2% to 18% in 2017.

Incredible.
 
Totally agree but if keeping Tories in is their ultimate aim, isn’t Johnson the least safe option now after this story?

For anyone with a brain then yes of course.
But diehard Tories love Boris because he is a bumbling idiot. And therefore, they can associate with him.
 
I wonder how people would get on living in a muslim country if they wanted nothing to do with Islam?
Muslims in islamic countries have phobias about western culture, which is why they ban a lot of things considered normal here.
What has any of this got to do with the tweet I posted ?

Muslims in islamic countries have phobias about western culture, which is why they ban a lot of things considered normal here.
What has any of this got to do with the tweet I posted ?
I tend to break out in a rash if I have to hear someone talk about GoT, I feel nauseous every time I see a advert for Love Island. What you mean when you say ''phobias about western culture''

And also just because some Muslims far right dictatorships bans lots of things considered normal in the west(Although again I would need you explain this in more detail)doesn't mean we should also do the same.
 
What has any of this got to do with the tweet I posted ?


What has any of this got to do with the tweet I posted ?

The tweet was about a supposed Islamaphobia problem within the conservative party.

I tend to break out in a rash if I have to hear someone talk about GoT, I feel nauseous every time I see a advert for Love Island. What you mean when you say ''phobias about western culture''

What if someone wanted a beer in a bar in Saudi Arabia, and then take their girlfriend to the cinema and have a cuddle?

And also just because some Muslims far right dictatorships bans lots of things considered normal in the west(Although again I would need you explain this in more detail)doesn't mean we should also do the same.

Let's keep it this way, and then there will be no phobias.
 
I wonder how people would get on living in a muslim country if they wanted nothing to do with Islam?
Muslims in islamic countries have phobias about western culture, which is why they ban a lot of things considered normal here.

That's completely besides the point of what's been posted though. The issue is Tory members clearly have a warped perceptions of Islam's influence on the UK because they believe there are no-go areas and that Sharia Law has been implemented in parts of the country. Islamic countries may have their issues (and those issues are severe in some places) but that shouldn't mean we're then hostile to all Muslims as a result considering Muslims themselves are often on the receiving end of Islamic extremism.
 
That's completely besides the point of what's been posted though. The issue is Tory members clearly have a warped perceptions of Islam's influence on the UK because they believe there are no-go areas and that Sharia Law has been implemented in parts of the country. Islamic countries may have their issues (and those issues are severe in some places) but that shouldn't mean we're then hostile to all Muslims as a result considering Muslims themselves are often on the receiving end of Islamic extremism.

How would you think this compares with the Labour, Liberal, Greens and Brexit Parties?