I wish people would understand how to vote by post more, a lot easier to vote and you don’t need ID.
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I wish people would understand how to vote by post more, a lot easier to vote and you don’t need ID.
Politics aside but if you are voting for either Ben Houchen or Susan Hall in the Mayoral elections, you need your fecking head examined.
I had my local mayor visit and sign me up for postal voting and had someone follow up with me to check if I was voting.
Really impressed with the Labour organisation I'm my area
@Frosty and @The Boy
Thank you both for the information provided on voting ID etc.
It would seem from what you both say that the purpose of providing ID for voting is suspect in itself, but that if it is purely to prevent fraud, then the postal system is more likely to abuse, since despite all sorts of hurdles for the postal voter to overcome, no one can be absolutely sure that votes received that way are made by the person entitled.
It would seem that being eligible to vote and being able to vote are in fact two separate problems, where absolute identification is required for one, but not the other. Both of which could be seen as voter suppression issues.
Thank you both for the information provided on voting ID etc.
It would seem from what you both say that the purpose of providing ID for voting is suspect in itself, but that if it is purely to prevent fraud, then the postal system is more likely to abuse, since despite all sorts of hurdles for the postal voter to overcome, no one can be absolutely sure that votes received that way are made by the person entitled.
It would seem that being eligible to vote and being able to vote are in fact two separate problems, where absolute identification is required for one, but not the other. Both of which could be seen as voter suppression issues.
That's not down to just voter ID. For the first time me and the family (all 5 of us) voted Green. We all had our IDs, young to old. And I know Sadiq well as I may have mentioned many times. Anti-genocide voters just can't put an X next to a genocide party regardless of Sadiq's own stance on the subject. He needs to leave the Labour party.
Political parties do sign people up but it’s best to liaise with the Council directly.
When someone submits a postal vote they need to sign it and put their date of birth. It must then match the ones the Council have on file for them when they registered. That’s how you check it’s from them. If they mark their date of birth or signature incorrectly, they get written to after the election saying their vote was rejected and to provide fresh identifiers. Having worked in elections for many years, it’s a secure way to vote.
A fair point. It sounds like the Tories will hold on to the West Midlands mayoralty for the same reason:
"Labour sources in Birmingham are saying they believe the Conservative West Midlands mayor Andy Street is going to hold on to his post as Muslim voters turn away from the party over its stance on Gaza.
West Midlands is not counting until tomorrow, but one Labour source in the city said:
It’s thought many Muslim voters may have voted for independent candidate, Akhmed Yakoob, who some are saying could come third in some areas of the city.
Last week Yakoob, a lawyer, was joined by George Galloway on the campaign trail targeting disillusioned Muslim voters with a strong focus on Gaza."
That quote above is from The Guardian.
The BBC is carrying a slightly different quote from a 'party source'. It is amazing:
"It’s the Middle East, not West Midlands, that will have won [Conservative candidate] Andy Street the mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."
@Dumbstar
The BBC is carrying a slightly different quote from a 'party source'. It is amazing:
"It’s the Middle East, not West Midlands, that will have won [Conservative candidate] Andy Street the mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."
@Dumbstar
I’ve never heard such a shameful excuse in my life.
Man it's going to be tough voting for Starmer's Labour but we kind of just have to do it. Through extremely gritted teeth.
Ben Houchen wins Tees Valley, after all of the corrupt stuff happening up there, the voters still vote for him. Sometimes, they deserve all they get.
This one is even better.
Damn those Muslim votes being counted as equal to the normal ones. Labour won the Christian election and that's the real quiz.
fecking hell.
That's really going to galvanise the Muslim vote to get behind Labour in the GE.
It's simply pragmatism to not view Muslim votes as being equal to everyone else's. As soon as he's made PM Starmer will flip and start viewing Muslims as human beings again. #GTTO
Labour doing all they can to further alienate the Muslim vote. Great strategy.
Yeah, right.
Even the Tories recognised the comment as vile, whereas Labour deflecting with the 'it weren't one of us guv, I swear it!'. Needs to be named and shamed.
I reckon their name will just so happen to rhyme with Duke Bakewurst.
I've never understood the general negativity around electronic voting. Entire industries use MFA to prove that the person doing something is who they say they are and that include fingerprints, face ID, authentication codes, passwords, personal information or some of these combined. I really can't see why that's less secure but it seems to be perceived as such.
I think it’s down to the cyber security element and it being prone to hacking. Can’t see any other reason for it.
The Comms team at Labour need to come down hard on the idiot who said that. Unbelievable own goal
That would involve a journalist giving up a source. Never going to happen for this.
We're what, a fortnight removed from a collective whinge on Twitter that Joe Lycett was mocking the state of journalism in this country on his Channel 4 show? And now here we are, a BBC Political Editor reporting that he is a liar, in order to protect the anonymity of a racist source.
We are blessed with the most pathetic 'journalists' of any country on earth. At least the servile press in other countries (i.e. Russia/North Korea) are doing it under the threat of death if they went against the grain. What's the excuse for this bunch of cowards?
We are blessed with the most pathetic 'journalists' of any country on earth. At least the servile press in other countries (i.e. Russia/North Korea) are doing it under the threat of death if they went against the grain. What's the excuse for this bunch of cowards?
Rob Mayor has called himself a liar?
Houchen literally said he doesn’t care who the prime minister is and didn’t wear a blue rosette. Also if the same swing was repeated in a general election, it would wipe Tory MPs from the area.
At least the Cnut Ben Bradley has lost.
Interesting to see the beating the Tories took in Grant Shapp's constituency, they've lost the bulk of the wards there. He's looking like another Portillo candidate for the upcoming GE. Just waiting for him to inevitably bow out a coward like his other ministerial peers instead of facing the humiliation of losing his seat.
Lots of rumours about Susan Hall beating Khan. If this is the case then Londoners have lost their mind voting for her.
Neh I ain’t having it, Kahn will win.
The turnout in London was historically low (2 out of 6million voted) which is alarming, but I don't see that being enough to get that Gammon to beat Khan. Even the Tory base in London consider her a calamitous candidate. Khan will win I reckon, but it'll be closer than what earlier polls projected.