Westminster Politics
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So? Labour conference backed an increased minimum wage and support for PR. Starmer wants neither, so neither have been mentioned since.
These branches are less than pointless, because not only do their opinions do nothing, they actively work to ensure that those opinions do nothing.
Voted. Not for Labour or Tory though. Will be interesting to see how many protest votes are won tonight. Microcosm for the generals.
I was trying to make the point that the leadership is out of step with the membership. I would say that the leadership in branches often work to ensure the opinions do nothing. Not necessarily those who are still members.
Johnson as well apparently 
He's perfectly in step with the membership. He does whatever the feck he wants and they tut a bit before doing everything he wants of them anyway.
Having ran elections for many years whilst working at the Council, voter ID is the biggest waste of money and is a clear line from the Tories to prevent people from voting. Voter fraud is miniscule and there are already several safeguards in place to ensure the correct people vote. All this has done is create more work for people running elections and disenfranchise certain voters.
And you are right, now you have Farage et al speaking up against postal voting which they know people who vote that way don't vote for them. Postal voting again is one of the most secure ways to vote. This is all a big plan to disenfranchise certain voters.
Joseph Stiglitz is on QT today. Maybe I’ll give this a watch.
You have to laugh.
FFS...I'm laughing, but what a cnut.
Is there any exit poll or data that we get at 10pm today? Or is it just a waiting game?
Hopefully tonights a precursor for the general election. Will be staying up to watch the drama unfold despite not voting 
It is not like the GE sadly.
Councils count tonight and tomorrow and will report sporadically. PCC elections will be announced depending on the size of the county.
London should announce in the early hours given the election is now FPTP.
i just wrote “brexit” on my ballot paper. as i have done for every vote since 2016.
Here is a breakdown of what we are expecting to be called overnight:
Councils:
12.30am: Broxbourne
1.30am: Hartlepool, Rochford, Sunderland
2am: Bolton, Gosport, Ipswich, Newcastle upon Tyne, North East Lincolnshire, South Tyneside, Wigan
2.30am: Chorley, Eastleigh, Fareham, Hart, Oldham, Portsmouth, Rushmoor, Southend-on-Sea
2.45am: Exeter
3am: Harlow, Kingston upon Hull, Lincoln, Sefton, Tameside, Thurrock
3.15am: Reading
3.30am: Colchester, Gateshead, Redditch, Stockport
4am: Peterborough, Plymouth
4.30am: Southampton
5.30am: Winchester
Police & crime commissioners:
1.30am: Cumbria
2.30am: Avon & Somerset
3.00am: Lincolnshire
Sounds like most results won't be out until tomorrow. West Midlands mayor won't be announced until Saturday.
Councils:
12.30am: Broxbourne
1.30am: Hartlepool, Rochford, Sunderland
2am: Bolton, Gosport, Ipswich, Newcastle upon Tyne, North East Lincolnshire, South Tyneside, Wigan
2.30am: Chorley, Eastleigh, Fareham, Hart, Oldham, Portsmouth, Rushmoor, Southend-on-Sea
2.45am: Exeter
3am: Harlow, Kingston upon Hull, Lincoln, Sefton, Tameside, Thurrock
3.15am: Reading
3.30am: Colchester, Gateshead, Redditch, Stockport
4am: Peterborough, Plymouth
4.30am: Southampton
5.30am: Winchester
Police & crime commissioners:
1.30am: Cumbria
2.30am: Avon & Somerset
3.00am: Lincolnshire
Sounds like most results won't be out until tomorrow. West Midlands mayor won't be announced until Saturday.
If you used a pencil they would have just rubbed it out and written "EU 4eva" instead.
No idea why Councils count overnight because they don’t need to for local elections. I used to hate it but you had to do it for General but we didn’t do it for others.
It is bizarre, especially given the cost and the inconvenience to the workers. It is a bit random too as some city councils do it and others don't. I can understand why rural councils do not.
British politics is hilarious.
Massive victory for Labour with a 26% swing in Blackpool South and the new MP has to give his speech surrounded by Monster Raving Loony candidate in his full get up, and some random independent mentalist who couldn't behave himself, both of which got less than 150 votes
Massive victory for Labour with a 26% swing in Blackpool South and the new MP has to give his speech surrounded by Monster Raving Loony candidate in his full get up, and some random independent mentalist who couldn't behave himself, both of which got less than 150 votes
Always funny
didn’t Boris Johnson have a great one with count bin face?So I don't really understand this vote.
So it's council votes, to win seats etc, but do you win seats by percentage?
Lets say if a council has 10 seats and labour gets a 50% vote, they get 5 seats
So it's council votes, to win seats etc, but do you win seats by percentage?
Lets say if a council has 10 seats and labour gets a 50% vote, they get 5 seats
Also, surely Rishi will get a vote of no confidence after this
No votes in our area except PCC, which I didn't bother with as I think it's a joke of a role. Probably could have voted Green for that, but don't want the position to be supported by my vote.
Blackpool South was a bit of a thumping then.
Blackpool South was a bit of a thumping then.
I think he’s been chosen as the one to lead them into this election loss. Nobody else wants to do it.
Rishi is toast. Just bite the bullet and call the GE now.
Can’t see how the Tories don’t split.
Can’t see how the Tories don’t split.
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He might have to if rivals think toppling him is one last chance at saving their seats.
Each seat is an area or ward in a council area so all the parties fight these seats individually. It’s whoever gets the most votes in that ward then they get the seat.
It’s all right he’ll release another Instagram video soon and everything will be ok.
It's strange how this annihalation could actually speed-up the calling of a GE, because as soon as Sunak gets anywhere near the number of letters needed, he'll just call a GE and dissolve the Parliament!
Imagine a situation where you could hold the General Election as a Joker card against your own MPs!!!
Imagine a situation where you could hold the General Election as a Joker card against your own MPs!!!
It's a crisis. We've got a government who are salting the earth for the next one and there's little anyone can do but thump them when we have the chance.
Wonder how many MPs will defect to Reform before the week's out.
I don't think the amount of letters going in will be enough to trigger a vote and make Sunak call an election in spite. Most are resigned to their fate at this point and just want to ride the gravy train for as long as possible before being booted out. Unfortunately, we're still in for another half a year at most of this shambles.
Yeah. Enough of them will want to hold on to that salary and benefits for as long as possible, and a bunch are stepping down at the next election because they know they'll get thumped. Seems to me they'll just keep on going as long as possible. And I'm sure there's still some deluded enough and wrapped in their own bubble to at least think there'll some arrest of the decline if they get the Rwanda thing going.
Whether Sunak would be strong enough to call a GE in the event is another matter, personally I think he's too weak to do it.
Not 100% rosey for Labour. Signs of a collapse in Muslim support, for obvious reasons.
He is waiting for the first aircraft to take off with a couple of immigrants on route to that Safe country Rwanda.
Won't work. People already know the true cost of the policy.
Just like he is claiming credit for the drop in inflation. Won't work. People already know that is nothing to do with the government. The Bank of England are responsible for setting the high level of interest rates.
The plan is working... stick with the plan....
He's such a cnut. Still hard to believe he led the UK. Lovely to see those ***** getting thumped.
Not just muslims, I voted green for the first time in my life for the same reasons, but may switch back to Labour for the GE, I need to think about it. But it's much easier to register a protest against Labour in local elections.
As expected, voter ID is having the desired effect in London.
Apparently turnout was around 33% and the exit poll put Sadiq Khan's lead at around 7%, rather than the 20-25% he had held throughout the campaign.
Apparently turnout was around 33% and the exit poll put Sadiq Khan's lead at around 7%, rather than the 20-25% he had held throughout the campaign.