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GG is just getting his retaliation in first, starting with threats to stand against Angela Rayner, and now Andy Burnham.
A sizeable Moslem population in Rayner's Ashton-U-Lyne constituency and across Grt. Manchester, no doubt GG is hoping they will vote with their hearts ( Gaza) as in Rochdale, rather than with their heads (getting rid of Tories)... expect more of the same, from GG, especially if nothing changes in Gaza .

You can always rely on George to have an eye on the main chance!

Exactly. Galloway is just a chancer with about as much credibility as Boris. And just as dangerous.
 
Exactly. Galloway is just a chancer with about as much credibility as Boris. And just as dangerous.

Galloway is the most dangerous MP in the Commons. Mainly because he’s capable of taking the mood of the people correctly and exploiting it. The Tories (as they currently are) are inept. He’s not, so Galloway needs to get gone.

If I saw the fella fall down a flight of stairs that saw him bleeding out, I’d do no more than get his phone out of his pocket and hand it to him, then walk off. He’s an apex charlatan who contributes nothing to another if it doesn’t benefit himself.
 
GG is just getting his retaliation in first, starting with threats to stand against Angela Rayner, and now Andy Burnham.
A sizeable Moslem population in Rayner's Ashton-U-Lyne constituency and across Grt. Manchester, no doubt GG is hoping they will vote with their hearts ( Gaza) as in Rochdale, rather than with their heads (getting rid of Tories)... expect more of the same, from GG, especially if nothing changes in Gaza .

You can always rely on George to have an eye on the main chance!

This is outdated, surely?
 
Galloway is the most dangerous MP in the Commons. Mainly because he’s capable of taking the mood of the people correctly and exploiting it. The Tories (as they currently are) are inept. He’s not, so Galloway needs to get gone.

If I saw the fella fall down a flight of stairs that saw him bleeding out, I’d do no more than get his phone out of his pocket and hand it to him, then walk off. He’s an apex charlatan who contributes nothing to another if it doesn’t benefit himself.

Most dangerous MP? He has absolutely no power, unlike the party who've been impoverishing the country and persecuting minorities, the poor and disabled for the last 14 years. He's on his own. I don't like him one bit but he's one step above an irrelevance.
 
Don't usually agree with this sort of behaviour, but this is fantastic

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Totally within the rules for debating Private Members Bills. Truss could of course have changed the rules, but I suppose she wasn't in power long enough...
 
I thought Andy Burnham was pretty popular and has been doing a good job. Not that this matters.

He's very popular round here. To the point people will vote for him regardless of the rosette he's wearing.

Lovely bloke too. You'll see him out and about quite often around the city chatting to people or enjoying a pint. Occasionally doing a dj set :cool:
 
Galloway is the most dangerous MP in the Commons. Mainly because he’s capable of taking the mood of the people correctly and exploiting it. The Tories (as they currently are) are inept. He’s not, so Galloway needs to get gone.

If I saw the fella fall down a flight of stairs that saw him bleeding out, I’d do no more than get his phone out of his pocket and hand it to him, then walk off. He’s an apex charlatan who contributes nothing to another if it doesn’t benefit himself.
I mean isn't that what all politicians do? There are perhaps a handful of benevolent MPs who are genuinely looking to do some good, whereas the rest are only interested in enriching themselves or their mates, most of whom capitalise on divisive politics.

I'm not a fan of his, but the moral point is a bit of an odd one, especially when you compare him to politicians who've taken the country to wars that have killed countless innocents, or those giving a genocide the greenlight. From a moral perspective he's no worse than a Starmer, and certainly not a murderous cnut like Blair.
 
Galloway is the most dangerous MP in the Commons. Mainly because he’s capable of taking the mood of the people correctly and exploiting it. The Tories (as they currently are) are inept. He’s not, so Galloway needs to get gone.

If I saw the fella fall down a flight of stairs that saw him bleeding out, I’d do no more than get his phone out of his pocket and hand it to him, then walk off. He’s an apex charlatan who contributes nothing to another if it doesn’t benefit himself.
So, an independent MP, with no party structure and no way to enact any policy and with no possibility of even influencing policy is "the most dangerous MP in the commons"? This is, objectively, wrong.
He's "apex" nothing.

Also, what do you mean by "taking the mood of the people and exploiting it"? He's pretty politically consistent, the moustachioed, hat wearing pompous twat that he is.
 
So, an independent MP, with no party structure and no way to enact any policy and with no possibility of even influencing policy is "the most dangerous MP in the commons"? This is, objectively, wrong.
He's "apex" nothing.

Also, what do you mean by "taking the mood of the people and exploiting it"? He's pretty politically consistent, the moustachioed, hat wearing pompous twat that he is.

More dog whistling. In basic English it means dodgy "immigrants" like me, who've been here for nearly 50 years, are a bit thick because of our brainwashing "exotic religion" so can be easily swayed.

As you know I'm not an intelligent poster like many on here, but I call out the spade for what it is so casual readers on this thread are in zero doubt. Thanks for the chance.
 
More dog whistling. In basic English it means dodgy "immigrants" like me, who've been here for nearly 50 years, are a bit thick because of our brainwashing "exotic religion" so can be easily swayed.

As you know I'm not an intelligent poster like many on here, but I call out the spade for what it is so casual readers on this thread are in zero doubt. Thanks for the chance.

As opposed to the constant dog whistling to the rural white population of the country from the Tories? (And Reeves and Starmer)

He may be the one that makes your flesh crawl but he's in no way the most dangerous politician in the country, not even close.
 
Galloway is the most dangerous MP in the Commons. Mainly because he’s capable of taking the mood of the people correctly and exploiting it. The Tories (as they currently are) are inept. He’s not, so Galloway needs to get gone.

If I saw the fella fall down a flight of stairs that saw him bleeding out, I’d do no more than get his phone out of his pocket and hand it to him, then walk off. He’s an apex charlatan who contributes nothing to another if it doesn’t benefit himself.

Agree with all of that.
 
So, an independent MP, with no party structure and no way to enact any policy and with no possibility of even influencing policy is "the most dangerous MP in the commons"? This is, objectively, wrong.
He's "apex" nothing.

Also, what do you mean by "taking the mood of the people and exploiting it"? He's pretty politically consistent, the moustachioed, hat wearing pompous twat that he is.

The reason I called him dangerous is not because of his consistent rhetoric about Palestine.
It was because he is good at identifying any particular issue and getting a certain type of people to follow his lead by virtue of his clever use of words.
The more gullible people.

We can clearly see the damage Boris Johnson has done to the country through his lies about Brexit.

Galloway will promise the people of Rochdale lots of things but won't be able to deliver much at all.
 
As opposed to the constant dog whistling to the rural white population of the country from the Tories? (And Reeves and Starmer)

He may be the one that makes your flesh crawl but he's in no way the most dangerous politician in the country, not even close.

I don't understand the significance of.... the rural white population.
 
With a parliamentary system especially one so dominated by two parties the idea of one dangerous MP doesn’t make any sense.
 
I don't understand the significance of.... the rural white population.

In my experience rural areas and small towns are far more racist and/or scared of immigration than cities. Most likely because there aren't many immigrants there compared to the cities.
 
With a parliamentary system especially one so dominated by two parties the idea of one dangerous MP doesn’t make any sense.

Boris was a very dangerous MP. But moreso once he'd wormed his way to the top.
 
In my experience rural areas and small towns are far more racist and/or scared of immigration than cities. Most likely because there aren't many immigrants there compared to the cities.

Ok. But I would be a bit careful over generalisations. Especially the colour of people skins.
 
The reason I called him dangerous is not because of his consistent rhetoric about Palestine.
It was because he is good at identifying any particular issue and getting a certain type of people to follow his lead by virtue of his clever use of words.
The more gullible people.

We can clearly see the damage Boris Johnson has done to the country through his lies about Brexit.

Galloway will promise the people of Rochdale lots of things but won't be able to deliver much at all.
I was replying to @unrelatedPseudo 's hyperbolic statement that Galloway is "the most dangerous MP in Comms" and pointing out that it is a patently incorrect.

Irrespective of whether you may think that the preening self styled intellectual shagger is, or isn't, an opportunist who uses incendiary rhetoric, he is powerless in the two party House of Commons and he is, in no way, capable of being the most dangerous MP.

Your comparison to Johnson demonstrates this point practically. Whether you believe Galloway to be a liar, using rhetoric and stylised charisma in a similar manner to Johnson to influence or not, he is clearly incapable of actually having the political influence that Johnson had to actually alter reality.

Therefore, he is less dangerous than the many lying manipulators with actual power in the Commons, notably the current Tory party Government and, to a lesser extent, chunks of Labour.
 
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Ok. But I would be a bit careful over generalisations. Especially the colour of people skins.

When talking about race? That's literally how it works :lol:

It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.
 
When talking about race? That's literally how it works :lol:

It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.
Except in this instance it is you doing the targeting. 'Talking about race' is what racists do.
 
I was replying to @unrelatedPseudo 's hyperbolic statement that Galloway is "the most dangerous MP in Comms" and pointing out that it is a patently incorrect.

Irrespective of whether you may think that the preening self styled intellectual shagger is, or isn't, an opportunist who uses incendiary rhetoric, he is powerless in the two party House of Commons and he is, in no way, capable of being the most dangerous MP.

Your comparison to Johnson demonstrates this point practically. Whether you believe Galloway to be a liar, using rhetoric and stylised charisma in a similar manner to Johnson to influence or not, he is clearly incapable of actually having the political influence that Johnson had to actually alter reality.

Therefore, he is less dangerous than the many lying manipulators with actual power in the Commons, notably the current Tory party Government and, to a lesser extent, chunks of Labour.

This is very fair reasoning.
 
When talking about race? That's literally how it works :lol:

It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.

Understood.
 
Except in this instance it is you doing the targeting. 'Talking about race' is what racists do.

:lol: it's also what equality campaigners do. And probably pretty much every other human at some point.
 
Has a PM ever been this weak? If Sunak has any balls, he would call for an election immediately.

Cameron? May? Truss? He's just inherited the shittiest end of all their shitty sticks, and after Boris had taken a massive dump on the whole log pile too. Also wouldn't he need the party to vote with him to call an election thanks to Cameron?

Personally I really hope they put Mordaunt in. If she were to take the beating that really would taint their last vaguely presentable contender and hopefully kill them off for years.
 
Cameron? May? Truss? He's just inherited the shittiest end of all their shitty sticks, and after Boris had taken a massive dump on the whole log pile too. Also wouldn't he need the party to vote with him to call an election thanks to Cameron?

Personally I really hope they put Mordaunt in. If she were to take the beating that really would taint their last vaguely presentable contender and hopefully kill them off for years.
If he calls for one, there no way he doesn’t win the vote.
 
Muslim, not Moslem

OK...sorry, no offence.
I misread Oxford dictionary definition: Moslem (Noun)- "a follower of the religion of Islam",

NB. As others posters on here will tell you, I am not well upon grammar ;)
 
I was replying to @unrelatedPseudo 's hyperbolic statement that Galloway is "the most dangerous MP in Comms" and pointing out that it is a patently incorrect.

Irrespective of whether you may think that the preening self styled intellectual shagger is, or isn't, an opportunist who uses incendiary rhetoric, he is powerless in the two party House of Commons and he is, in no way, capable of being the most dangerous MP.

Your comparison to Johnson demonstrates this point practically. Whether you believe Galloway to be a liar, using rhetoric and stylised charisma in a similar manner to Johnson to influence or not, he is clearly incapable of actually having the political influence that Johnson had to actually alter reality.

Therefore, he is less dangerous than the many lying manipulators with actual power in the Commons, notably the current Tory party Government and, to a lesser extent, chunks of Labour.

He’ll have more of a sway over a large swathe of the electorate than any Tory in the next election. He’s actually good at working the culture war to his own benefit. The entire Tory party is just loud.

Irrelevant when outside the tent pissing in. But the feral little fecker is in the building now. He’ll find a little cohort of cnuts and poison the well in a meaningful manner. He’ll be toxic and loud. The Tories are traders in homeopathy by comparison.

Yeah there’s a layer of hyperbole there, it’s punched up. But I truly believe he can do more damage at election time than any of the Tories. They’re all dead. Toast.
 
He’ll have more of a sway over a large swathe of the electorate than any Tory in the next election. He’s actually good at working the culture war to his own benefit. The entire Tory party is just loud.

Irrelevant when outside the tent pissing in. But the feral little fecker is in the building now. He’ll find a little cohort of cnuts and poison the well in a meaningful manner. He’ll be toxic and loud. The Tories are traders in homeopathy by comparison.

Yeah there’s a layer of hyperbole there, it’s punched up. But I truly believe he can do more damage at election time than any of the Tories. They’re all dead. Toast.
Are you actually suggesting that the rhetoric of the Tory party is less dangerous and influential than the largely derided and marginal "Gorgeous" George? How will he do this damage at election time that'll be greater than a party openly waging a culture war who'll get, worse case scenario, 25% of the vote, have large swathes of the media on their side, are backed by the majority of the most powerful people in the country and will literally be the sitting Government? This is just silly.
 
When talking about race? That's literally how it works :lol:

It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.
This tallies up with my experience when moving from a big city in the UK to a small one surrounded by rural areas with a 96% white/1% muslim demographic.