This guy should be the PM!
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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I just won a bet with myself!
It’s amazing that you post Starmer’s views from Feb 2020, because nothing that’s happened since FEBRUARY 2020 has changed any economic goalposts, like, not even a little bit!
Parents with 2 kids: "Please Sir, can we have one more?"
And I have a bridge to sell you.
Undemocratic. The members represents their constituencies first and foremost before their parties, if it is a representative democracy.
Which bit offendeth you so?
Are you being serious?
Well yes but if you want the benefits of being in the party when they insist on discipline you stick with the line or face punishment.
Otherwise the government ends up with losing overall power to implement their agenda and you have a lame duck
If those 7 plus Corbyn, plus Abbott if she remembers how she should have voted, declared a new party tomorrow they would be the joint 4th biggest party overnight. Now would be the time to do it, when all of them would be virtually guaranteed to keep their seats for 5 years, and I would be amazed if some others would not see it that way too and join in.
Tbh they can’t even use the there is no money excuse as Starmer has pledge to give 3 billion a year to Ukraine.
People think this is the first attack on families and children by this Labour government seem to be forgetting that they have already commited to not only continuing the practice of fining parents who take their kids out of school for holidays but by being even harder on them for doing so.
Taking the piss out of the policy. Its ridiculous and with Reeves suggesting Labours answer would be to hold more breakfast clubs it makes it even more of a joke.
And what is this cnut supposed to indicate?
The King’s speech included:
- ending no fault evictions
- giving homeowners protections against leasehold BS
- ending zero hour contracts and abusing employment practices
But no, these are EXACTLY the same as the last Tory government, give me a fecking break!
Sorry, sarcasm flew right over my head.
That does come with an explicit warning to not spend a penny of it on feeding kids, in fairness
Tbh they can’t even use the there is no money excuse as Starmer has pledge to give 3 billion a year to Ukraine.
Seriously though where is there a place for valid, nuanced debate:
“I want things to improve but acknowledge legitimate reasons for us not being able to revolutionise the country inside of a month”
One side: SHUT UP YOU LOONY LEFTIE!!!
The other: SHUT UP YOU TORY LOVING FASCIST!
“I want things to improve but acknowledge legitimate reasons for us not being able to revolutionise the country inside of a month”
One side: SHUT UP YOU LOONY LEFTIE!!!
The other: SHUT UP YOU TORY LOVING FASCIST!
Laughable comment. We're talking about children here. I get that you're angry because your team fecked up but you should really try using some of that critical thinking you talk about.
Likewise, you don’t acknowledge the existential threat posed by the war in Ukraine and what that could do to Europe?
What happens to the kids if we all withdrew support, Russia walks over, and then eyes up a NATO ally?
Probably the same thing he thinks Israel has the right to do to the children of Gaza, I'd imagine.
Seriously, take five and come back to the grown up table.
I GET that these are kids! I GET that I want them out of poverty. I GET IT ALL FOR feckS SAKE!
But step 1 of resolving the NHS crisis is a greater priority RIGHT NOW.
There's a magical place, we're on our way there
Are you drunk?
Yep, more of the same. Especially if we ignore the stuff that's already been positively changed in the last couple of weeks.
Nope it’s “exploitative” zero hour contracts. Which means -
But anyways this is all pointless. Your fully on board the Socialism with Starmer characteristics train. Enjoy the ride!
Children and their parents are and have always been an easy target for government. They don't strike, any attempt to fight back can be out down by financial punishment or the threat of breaking families up. Don't step in line and punishments get harsher, people risk having marks on their DBS reports which can risk their careers.
Good, he is a security threat.
If only they had said they had no immediate plans to lift the 2 child cap during the run up to the election...
If only they had warned MPs this afternoon that any rebellions would be dealt with harshly.
Let's put aside the scrapping of the Rwanda policy and Bibby Stockholm, more positive relations between the Union and our allies, the steps to begin nationalisation of railways and invest in energy.
This has happened and it shows I was right to say nothing would change.
Having the chance to remove half a million kids out of poverty and not taking it.
You don’t know a thing about me and what I’m ‘on board’ with, so you can go feck yourself!
Reversing loony policies like Rwanda isn't anything to write home about. Today's vote was a chance to show signs of meaningful change, but here we are.
It’s hard isn’t it, with kids you feel immediately emotive, but they have said they won’t do anything substantial uncosted.
But I can’t help but think FFS let’s just help the kids. I am trying to reconcile my own feelings, if this is the tories I’d probably slag them right off
but also Labour have literally said they wouldn’t do this so why would they 3 weeks in?Also, the tories who voted for it taking the moral high ground should get in a hole and die!
To conclude it’s a difficult conversation to have, 3 weeks in if they bring in a huge cost imagine the amount of criticism they’d get? But also… feck that help kids!
I really am so torn on this.
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It's a mystery.
Yeah, trying to converse with children who post pics of George Osbourne, thinking it has value in a debate about a new Labour government, or those who play whataboutism and conflate the war in Ukraine with Israel.
It is THE SINGLE MOST INFURIATING THING to have a balanced conversation and I lose my shit when constantly faced with people who think there are easy answers to difficult, nuanced issues.
I imagine it was a fairly meaningful change to some of the people who were due to be on the flights, but here we are.
Whataboutism? It's a photo of someone who agrees with your new and improved Starmer Party on the importance of this particular policy. It's not anybody else's fault that your interest in holding said policy's backers to account ends somewhere between that evil bastard Osborne and the nation's saviour Sir Kid Starver.
You asked what would happen to the children of Ukraine if Starmer didn't give them £3bn a year indefinitely. I merely pointed out that they'd probably starve, just like Starmer believes Israel had the right to do to the children of Gaza. At least he's consistent, I suppose. Children should be starved and not heard, whether at home or abroad.
You're embarrassing yourself tonight.