Westminster Politics 2024-2029

OK, I said before the e;lection these people would be no good, but this is going to end very very badly for everyone.

This shows such a basic lack of understanding of what their job is, that I genuinely think they could put our society in a place it cannot recover from. The reason CEOs like it is because they can make us pay for water while they save costs by shoveling shite into our rivers. And dereulation means they can do the equivalent in every industry.

It doesn't help the economy, it just boosts profiteering. I'd put money on farage as PM right now, because they seem determined to make it happen.

 
Nogbadthebad said:
OK, I said before the e;lection these people would be no good, but this is going to end very very badly for everyone.

This shows such a basic lack of understanding of what their job is, that I genuinely think they could put our society in a place it cannot recover from. The reason CEOs like it is because they can make us pay for water while they save costs by shoveling shite into our rivers. And dereulation means they can do the equivalent in every industry.

It doesn't help the economy, it just boosts profiteering. I'd put money on farage as PM right now, because they seem determined to make it happen.

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Don't forget the fact that the pound is worth a lot less than it used to be, making us more attractive to US and European companies. Which obviously is the opposite situation to one that the average British person would benefit from.
 
A DWP computer system that automatically allows landlords to grab money from the benefits of their tenants has been ruled "unlawful".

The court ruling follows a challenge by a tenant who was outraged to find the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had docked £500 from his Universal Credit payment at the request of his landlord.

The money involved was at the centre of an unresolved dispute around repairs on a property.

It subsequently emerged that a so-called “click-screen” program used by the DWP means tenants can lose up to a fifth of their monthly universal credit standard allowance – and have their rent paid directly to the landlord – without being consulted by either the landlord or officials.

The legal ruling raises serious questions about the government's plans to increasingly rely on computer systems and AI to operate the benefits system, taking human beings out of the process

The decision by the courts means that the DWPmust now introduce tenant safeguards into a process that approves tens of thousands of benefit deduction and rent diversion requests by landlords each year.

The process was declared unfair and unlawful by a judge earlier this month in a hearing brought by Nathan Roberts, a law graduate and former police control room worker who argued it was “clearly arbitrary and an abuse of process”.

Mr Roberts, who had been in dispute with his landlord, Guinness Partnership Trust, over its alleged failure to carry out repairs, argued that it was unlawful for DWP to pay the £460 rent element of his benefits and a £44 deduction for alleged rent arrears direct to Guinness without consulting him.

The judge, Mr Justice Fordham, said it was unfair that tenants on universal credit who could be adversely affected by rent arrears deduction and rent diversion requests had no opportunity to make representations before the deductions were approved.

He concluded there was a “real possibility” that DWP "decision-makers" were being directed by the computer to approve deduction requests regardless of whether delaying or blocking the request was in the tenants’ best interests.

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/2006058/DWP-computer-system-ruled-unlawful
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dumbo said:
Fecking hell, there was a different government cnut on the Today programme this morning talking about an "animal spirit" to attract investors. I think it was Emma Barnett on and she chewed him out immediately for that. Everything is Slop now.
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I might be wrong but I think it’s a reference to Keynes -

Even apart from the instability due to speculation, there is the instability due to the characteristic of human nature that a large proportion of our positive activities depend on spontaneous optimism rather than on a mathematical expectation, whether moral or hedonistic or economic. Most, probably, of our decisions to do something positive, the full consequences of which will be drawn out over many days to come, can only be taken as a result of animal spirits – of a spontaneous urge to action rather than inaction, and not as the outcome of a weighted average of quantitative benefits multiplied by quantitative probabilities.
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Although Labour use of it is meaningless nonsense. As you say it’s pure slop.
 


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TheGame said:
If you live in Ashfield and voted for this cnut, you are thick as pig shit.

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are nans are dyeing of cold cos there winter huel payments were cut and the amblance cant even get to there cold ded bodys cos there being queered up :mad:
 
I remember arguing with people in this very thread who tried claiming Labour wouldn't be as corrupt as the Tories were.

The full article is very illuminating. Also being reported by the FT but behind a paywall.

One of Keir Starmer’s senior aides held top-level meetings on AI policy, despite personally holding a stake in a $50m investment fund that has backed several AI firms, openDemocracy can reveal.

Varun Chandra was appointed as No 10’s business and investment adviser in July, leaving behind his previous role as chairman of Hakluyt & Company, a strategic advisory firm.

But openDemocracy has learned that Chandra still has a stake in Hakluyt’s AI-backing investment fund, according to Companies House documents. The firms backed by the fund include one with a multi-million pound NHS contract.
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https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/da...ss-adviser-varun-chandra-hakluyt-ai-investor/
 
This might seem very random but it was this thread that someone brought it up (was it you @Jericholyte2 ?!) but the book ultra process people has actually changed my life.
 
Berbasbullet said:
This might seem very random but it was this thread that someone brought it up (was it you @Jericholyte2 ?!) but the book ultra process people has actually changed my life.
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Hey! I can’t remember if it was this or other CE threads but yeah I’ve brought it up on a few occasions.

Did you get the book beforehand? Or based on the discussion?
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Hey! I can’t remember if it was this or other CE threads but yeah I’ve brought it up on a few occasions.

Did you get the book beforehand? Or based on the discussion?
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Based on the discussion! Sounded interesting so me and my partner have both read it.
 
Berbasbullet said:
Based on the discussion! Sounded interesting so me and my partner have both read it.
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Ahh that’s fantastic to hear!

It’s not changed mine 100% to how I’d want it to yet, but it’s really made me much more of an ‘active’ eater.

What changes have you made?
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Ahh that’s fantastic to hear!

It’s not changed mine 100% to how I’d want it to yet, but it’s really made me much more of an ‘active’ eater.

What changes have you made?
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Yeah we’ve not cut it out 100%, but we’re so much more careful about what food we are having. My partner brought a bread maker because of all the preservatives in bread. :lol:

It’s mainly dinner time meals we’ve made a big change to, predominantly making meals from scratch and avoid the fake meat we used to have before.

What about you?
 
Berbasbullet said:
Yeah we’ve not cut it out 100%, but we’re so much more careful about what food we are having. My partner brought a bread maker because of all the preservatives in bread. :lol:

It’s mainly dinner time meals we’ve made a big change to, predominantly making meals from scratch and avoid the fake meat we used to have before.

What about you?
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That’s great to hear, we really should get a bread-maker!

We are normally pretty good making meals from scratch but, combined with an app called Yuka (you can scan barcodes and see a rating based on energy, additives etc) we’re a lot more careful with snacks, carbs etc.

Things like meat products too, we’ve accepted the need to spend that bit extra so things like sausages etc have at least 90% meat. They also taste SO much better!
 


The Government is considering each of the following in a 'radical overhaul' of the benefits system -

Stricter eligibility for Personal Independence Payments (PIP), particularly for mental health conditions like anxiety and depression.

Requiring claimants to provide routine medical evidence instead of an assessment for PIP.

Requiring the long-term sick to look for work with a reduction in sickness benefit payments to encourage this.

Abolishing the 'Limited Capability for Work or Work-Related Activity' (LCWRA) category, potentially cutting £5,000 per year for claimants.

Scrapping the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) and aligning with PIP assessments- Shifting from regular PIP payments to one-off payments or means-testing.

Introducing a 'duty to engage' with employment services, including job preparation and training.

Vouchers for specific equipment or aids instead of cash payments have been ruled out.
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Jippy said:
We should provide more financial support to multibillion blue chips?
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It does show the paradox at the heart of global finance and state sovereignty. Tax big companies more, or cut subsidies, and they leave the jurisdiction. It is much easier to cut benefits or raise taxes on citizens who don't have the money to emigrate.
 
Frosty said:
It does show the paradox at the heart of global finance and state sovereignty. Tax big companies more, or cut subsidies, and they leave the jurisdiction. It is much easier to cut benefits or raise taxes on citizens who don't have the money to emigrate.
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Which is why Corbyn wanted to create a state funded supplier of generic drugs.

Astrazeneca wanted 90 million quid up front to get started, and that wouldn';t be the end of it. They cannot be relied on for essential infrastructure. If we fund a state service, we at least own something after spending, in this secnario, we don't even get the asset of the building, it all still belongs to a foreign private company.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
Which is why Corbyn wanted to create a state funded supplier of generic drugs.

Astrazeneca wanted 90 million quid up front to get started, and that wouldn';t be the end of it. They cannot be relied on for essential infrastructure. If we fund a state service, we at least own something after spending, in this secnario, we don't even get the asset of the building, it all still belongs to a foreign private company.
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If we did that we'd be locked out of all the latest treatments. Drugs cost over $1 billion on average to develop and most end up in the bin having failed to get to market. The NHS already pays a lot less than many countries through sheer buying power.

I know Corbyn is a folk hero around these parts but the guy was fecking clueless.
 
Frosty said:
It does show the paradox at the heart of global finance and state sovereignty. Tax big companies more, or cut subsidies, and they leave the jurisdiction. It is much easier to cut benefits or raise taxes on citizens who don't have the money to emigrate.
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Yep, companies wield so much power over governments. The reshoring trend maybe works against corporate power a bit. But in the UK, add in Brexit headaches, higher relative taxes, wage and power costs, and the government is over a barrel.
 
Jippy said:
Yep, companies wield so much power over governments. The reshoring trend maybe works against corporate power a bit. But in the UK, add in Brexit headaches, higher relative taxes, wage and power costs, and the government is over a barrel.
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Thing is we already had this deal agreed, it was an open goal to show we are business friendly. Then Reeves wanted to start fecking about with it. She's going on about growth but this is the antithesis of that. AZ were going to invest multiples of this figure and all governments want to attract this kind of high value capital investment, all except ours. It's not like AZ were bullshitting either, they've been pumping cash into other countries like the US, Canada and Singapore. They want to grow in countries that support business and this is going to be a huge warning to other companies looking to invest in this country.

And hell, who wants a domestic vaccine manufacturing capability anyway?
 
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