Liebour strikes again.
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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It is still the right decision.
What are your views on the need to tighten up electoral funding laws?
All for it, amazed and annoyed that these loopholes still exist despite years of scandals and apparent action. That said, parties need to be funded.
I wonder whether it will take Musk to donate a ridiculous amount for something to be tightened up.
Hmm. The Chagossians will be happy, as they were shoved to one side in negotiations. That doesn't mean that a renegotiation will take their views into account.
The ombudsman has spent a year or more investigating this and recommended they are paid, because they absolutely 100% got robbed by the government.
It isn;t the right desicion for that reason alone.
But if the government can avoid the industry ombudsman, any industry ombudsman, how do you think that will end? It means the government have no accountability at all, and you cheer it on.
What other reason could there be?Yes because it's so easy to set up as a charity to avoid tax.
Sadly, governments have been avoiding ombuds judgements for decades. None of it is enforceable.
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I don't agree with the ombudsman because (a) I think individuals have an obligation to know - not guess - how they will retire (b) there are issues of generational fairness here that were not in the ombudsman's remit but the government has to consider.
When people were retiring at 58 because they wrongly thought they were going to get the state pension at 60, and didn't actually check if that was the case, then that is partly on them, however good or bad the government information was at the time.
The estimated bill to "compensate" these people for not being able to take state funded retirement at 60 (!) is £10 billion (!!) which would be paid by you, me and people in their 20s and 30s, who will be lucky if they get a pension before they are 70, if at all. That is ludicrously unfair and I think the govt is right to say they aren't going to fund it.
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Prefessionals are still boxing on Netflix at 58. No way we should fund people for leisure at 60.
From my understanding £10.5bn was the bill for compensating all of that generation, but it ranged down to £3.5bn if you paid out to those who weren't aware. Problem it was always impossible to know who was and wasn't aware of the changes at the time though. The DWP's own surveys showed a significant percentage didn't know, so they should have stepped up their info campaigns, but there will always be a proportion of folk who don't engage with government messaging whatever you do.
I think Baroness Altmann's suggestion of a hardship fund for the worst affected would have been a reasonable compromise. You support those pensioners really struggling -and the culture and info supporting women saving in pensions was awful for decades- and maybe the bill is a more palatable £1.5-2bn. Maybe harsh younger generations are seen to pay it, but it's for people's grans and grandads.
I can't understand why Labour are going after pensioners. It's such a terrible look for them as a party and will absolutely ensure they don't win the next GE. This would be such an easy way to bury lots of bad PR and the general unhappiness of the country with their decisions since taking office.
But no, in their wisdom, let's give the media another stick to beat them with, it's awful politics whatever way you look at it.
You can't spend years in opposition attacking the Tory govt on policies you then fail to address. Labour said they want to build back faith and trust in politics yet it's just meaningless words. I don't know who is advising them, but these are not serious politicians, they are students at best, and poor ones at that.
But no, in their wisdom, let's give the media another stick to beat them with, it's awful politics whatever way you look at it.
You can't spend years in opposition attacking the Tory govt on policies you then fail to address. Labour said they want to build back faith and trust in politics yet it's just meaningless words. I don't know who is advising them, but these are not serious politicians, they are students at best, and poor ones at that.
It's clear that labour are front loading all the difficult decisions into the first year. Nobody will be talking about winter fuel or farmers in 3 years time. All that matters is making the right decisions for the long term, not chasing current polling numbers. Thank goodness they have the foresight to understand that.
P.s WASPI women was a nonsense movement from the start, with a nonsense name, and any government giving them a penny would be moronic. Spoiler alert on the 'gotcha' attempts re what people have said previously: people and Governments change their minds in the name of political reality and expediency. Shocker!
P.s WASPI women was a nonsense movement from the start, with a nonsense name, and any government giving them a penny would be moronic. Spoiler alert on the 'gotcha' attempts re what people have said previously: people and Governments change their minds in the name of political reality and expediency. Shocker!
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US CPI rose to 2.7% in November, highest in seven months, and even in Europe it rose to 2.3%, highest since August, for a broader picture. The BoE probably will hold, but will be interesting to see if the market is right on the Fed cutting again or it surprises.
Have to say, whilst he was lacking in virtually every other aspect of the job, Sunak did bring inflation under control from a particularly unique and dire situation.
Labour have only shown their frailties so far in government and whilst I stand with them on the majority of social issues they're looking pretty naive on the economy right now.
I wish the media had the same energy every time the government fecked over the younger generations over the last few decades.
Cheers.
Oh for sure. There’s a very clear generation divide when it comes to what the media want to highlight.
Sunak didn't do anything to control inflation, the Bank of England did.
I was at Southampton train station last week and for a tea and mars bar it costed me £4.50!
Revolution can’t come soon enough.
Revolution can’t come soon enough.
Sorry to hear this
Depends on who the media want in power come the next GE. They will certainly remind the electorate of all the bad stuff Labour have done during their time in office. The debates will be all about that, it doesnt matter what positives Labour do, the media only focus on the bad. The Tories were done after the handling of covid and the corruption and lies. I get the feeling Lab are already done with the failure to keep voters happy in their first few months in office. Any job you start badly makes it difficult to turn around. Starmer will have to be replaced as leader at least 2 years before the next GE.
Neither did. The Bank of England raised interest rates to temper demand because that’s the only available lever they have, but inflation would have fallen to more normal levels regardless… as it always does and always has after a spike. The inflation itself would hit demand without the need to raise interest rates but the BOE do it anyway as it’s all they have.
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The terrible burden of what... having to go back to work at 60? Having to not retire because you can't afford to? Like everyone?
If a person in this younger generation wants to pay their grandma to retire at 60, they are welcome to.
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My mum will kill me for this but...
These women had 15 years to make provisions for this...
Labour look fecking daft for supporting it all when in campaign mode, but there was nothing in the manifesto about this.
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The Tories taking the moral high ground over this, after spending years refusing to do anything, also takes some chutzpah.
the Tories have a nerve trying to hold a moral high ground over ANYTHING.
The Tories left traps everywhere for Labour, both deliberate and accidental. Labour shouldn't have identified themselves with the campaign but also, they did not know just how dire the state of the public finances were (and the Tories did).
There's this weird sense in the country where people just assume there is this infinite pot of money that can be repeatedly dipped into, while at the same time the evidence of a lack of cash is right before our eyes.
We can't afford to give £10billion - or even £4bn - to a group of people who did not take the trouble to inform themselves of a change in the pension age that they had 15 years to plan for. This is not, for example, like the immoral and criminal situation with the sub post masters.
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to waste taxpayers money, would you?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vrw9pd16do
Government department spends £1,200 on two folders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vrw9pd16do
If only we hadn't spent that £1200, we'd be able to fund the Waspi women, is that what you are saying?
Depends how many other folders they bought.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Well done.
That image being out of touch twats wasting taxpayers money?
It's the Rashford argument - you can't take £350k per week and not apply yourself to the highest standards on the pitch when other people in the organisation are losing their jobs.
Same as Labour, they can't bleat on about having no money in the treasury and cutting pensioner's compensation that has been judged fairly to be owed to them, while spending frivolously elsewhere. Labour may not have been in power for 14 years, but in opposition they set themselves up to be the party of "integrity".
Turns out by "integrity" they meant to stab you in the front, rather than the Tory option of simply lying and doing the same thing.
Which isn't actually a surprise to anyone who has listened to Starmer, but when the outcome is the same it's just as shameless at the end of the day.