Westminster Politics 2024-2029

In a similar vein to the comments that you can’t say what you wouldn’t do unless you’ve been in a situation, it’s easy to say what is or isn’t a valid reason to do it.

Imagine a scenario where, for whatever reason, your family was targeted for persecution. You knew that if you tried to leave the country via a regular route (plane or ferry) as soon as your passport was read you’d be taken to a room, separated from your kids, likely tortured and imprisoned (them too). Could you honestly say then that you wouldn’t take the risk to keep your kids safe from certain torture, rape, mutilation, imprisonment?

Likewise, imagine you get to the first ‘safe’ country. You only have the money you could take out with you at that point, no links to the country, and can’t speak the language. You’ve met Maslov’s first hierarchy of needs in that you’re officially safe, so now you think, “how can I start a new life for my family?”. How would you fill in paperwork, apply for asylum, apply for…anything, try to get a job, if you can’t speak the language? Then think, for the sake of one more journey, you can get to a country where you at least can understand the road signs, fill in a form or make conversation with someone, or perhaps you have a family member who ‘knows a guy’ who can get you a job, the first step to setting down roots and starting a new life. Would it still not be a viable reason?
Good post. This is what gets missed in all the rhetoric.
 
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People who are hungry, packed themselves up and started work on the morning shift. 10'oclock is practically noon for them. (disclaimer I may have done this from time to time).
10am isn't breakfast and shift workers are bound to eat at "odd" times anyway.
 
Me, nowt wrong with a a bacon and sausage sandwich with brown sauce
Well yes - occasionally sure (assuming open arteries are needed) but someone who doesn't like moist bread and thinks that sandwiches are only for breakfast? All a bit weird if you ask me.
 
Well yes - occasionally sure (assuming open arteries are needed) but someone who doesn't like moist bread and thinks that sandwiches are only for breakfast? All a bit weird if you ask me.
TBH I'm not sure I'd be keen on moist bread either, but I'm a Mancunian and in my world we put pretty much anything between 2 slices of bread and eat it at any point of the day - not so much now because US bread is disgusting and I only ever touch it when there's bugger all else left to eat!
 
TBH I'm not sure I'd be keen on moist bread either, but I'm a Mancunian and in my world we put pretty much anything between 2 slices of bread and eat it at any point of the day - not so much now because US bread is disgusting and I only ever touch it when there's bugger all else left to eat!
But bread is inherently moist and when it isn't we complain that it is dry or old. I can't ever remember not liking bread because it was too moist. And yes - the US does bread about as well as it does coffee and tea i.e. terribly.
 
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Reform has been flipping local by-election seats

From last night:
Blackbrook By-Election result
Victor Floyd - Reform UK: 546 votes
Sally Yeoman - Labour: 460 votes

There is a long way to go before a general, Labour is just making a right mess.

Unemployment numbers released on 17th, lets hope it's under 4.3%
 
Windsor & Maidenhead council have had very public challenges long before any budget announcements, their debt has grown by £150m in the last decade. The current position/shortfall isn't linked to an NI increase.
Look council budgets are tight, NI isn't going to make them less tight as I've said even in a small businesse on minimum wage it's an average of £600 per person.

I really believe this is the one that is really going to bite young people in this country.
 
Reform and Conservative coalition in the next general with Farage as PM. Nailed on.
I really think it’s easier to just ignore politics sometimes. The more time and effort you put into it the more depressing reality becomes
 
Look council budgets are tight, NI isn't going to make them less tight as I've said even in a small businesse on minimum wage it's an average of £600 per person.

I really believe this is the one that is really going to bite young people in this country.

In that specific case it'll be a minuscule drop in the ocean. They're paying more in financing their debt each year, however that council is not a great example to use to try to make your point.
 
Reform has been flipping local by-election seats

From last night:
Blackbrook By-Election result
Victor Floyd - Reform UK: 546 votes
Sally Yeoman - Labour: 460 votes

There is a long way to go before a general, Labour is just making a right mess.

Unemployment numbers released on 17th, lets hope it's under 4.3%

The distance to the next GE is the only redeeming thing here, but you also have to worry about how the development might be in the years to come.
 
In that specific case it'll be a minuscule drop in the ocean. They're paying more in financing their debt each year, however that council is not a great example to use to try to make your point.
I used it because of the timeline and the impact on the public, its almost the perfect storm for this to go sideways - I really hope they don't break the 5% cap in April.

If we look at Manchester City Council employs around 26,000 people, making it the largest employer in Manchester

26,000 x £600 is a lot of money.

The increases in employer National Insurance means that employers will have to pay an additional £900 for each employee on median average earnings.
https://ifs.org.uk/data-items/incre...rance-contributions-employee-earnings-2025-26
 
Reform and Conservative coalition in the next general with Farage as PM. Nailed on.
Doubt it tbh.

I think the more moderate Tories are seething at the implosion of their party and Farage's influence over it the past 5-10 years. They don't want anything to do with him and his brand. In the meantime, the more nutty Tories (Jenkyns, 30p Lee) appear to be slowly defecting to Reform and Badenoch is predictably proving to be a joke.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Tories out Badenoch before the next election because she's a) shite and b) they can't out-cnut Reform, they elect somebody more sensible (moderate) to try win the centre ground from Labour (slim pickings, but somebody like Cleverly) and refuse any election pacts with Reform. More nutters will defect to Reform. Reform will continue promising the world and ?????
 
But bread is inherently moist and when it isn't we complain that it is dry or old. I can't ever remember not liking bread because it was too moist. And yes - the US does bread about as well as it does coffee and tea i.e. terribly.
Depends on how it got moist I guess :)

I disagree about US bread though, it's way way worse than any coffee they do, I don't drink tea so can't judge that
 
Reform has been flipping local by-election seats

From last night:
Blackbrook By-Election result
Victor Floyd - Reform UK: 546 votes
Sally Yeoman - Labour: 460 votes

There is a long way to go before a general, Labour is just making a right mess.

Unemployment numbers released on 17th, lets hope it's under 4.3%

The story here is 16% turnout.

There is no enthusiasm for any of them. These are the ideal conditions for populism, historically its how the far right have always gained electoral power. Unless it changes, and with starmer only offering more austerity it is hard to see how it will, then I'd put farage odds on to be leading the pack in 2029.

The only real question is whether it is as leader of reform, or whatever they call the tory/reform group.
 

Let's be honest, economic growth figures can be very misleading. An economy can be 'growing' with millions left behind. I don't think many of us would object to a lower overall growth figure if it meant working people got better off, as opposed to a higher overall figure with the benefits flowing to the richest.
 
No those are direct quotes from her including the sandwiches one. The Spectator has added some colourful commentary on it through.

I had seen the sandwich one. It was the redecorating one that had me scratching my head.
 
Let's be honest, economic growth figures can be very misleading. An economy can be 'growing' with millions left behind. I don't think many of us would object to a lower overall growth figure if it meant working people got better off, as opposed to a higher overall figure with the benefits flowing to the richest.

:lol:

You can try to twist anything in favour of the party you like but come on now. There's nothing whatsoever positive about that news and I think if we get 3 months in a row her job will be under real pressure.