Well Fergie seems interested in him and Snejider seems to have some interest in joining us.
Wesley Sneijder
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Well Fergie seems interested in him and Snejider seems to have some interest in joining us.
Where are you basing that from? Newspapers?
As for our own transfer policy - I don't think it is a hard and fast well now we look for bargains such as Chicha, Smalling etc that are young but, a whole lot of potential for a fair price. I think SAF will spend still on a seasoned player if he feels he is light in that area for a certain position.
If Scholes does retire and Hargo's doesn't get a new deal, then he very well could look to buy an experienced player. But, he won't buy one just for the sake of it. Whoever he buys though, am sure before he signs them he''ll ensure the player knows he will need to buy into the Man Utd way. That squad rotation is part and parcel of playing for United, that form matters and everyone needs to work for one another.
If he buys Sneijder, it won't be only to play in a #10 role, he will potentially have to play in a midfield 2 and am sure Fergie will let him know in those types of games what is expected of him and if not Fergie the rest of the team will.
If Scholes does retire and Hargo's doesn't get a new deal, then he very well could look to buy an experienced player. But, he won't buy one just for the sake of it. Whoever he buys though, am sure before he signs them he''ll ensure the player knows he will need to buy into the Man Utd way. That squad rotation is part and parcel of playing for United, that form matters and everyone needs to work for one another.
If he buys Sneijder, it won't be only to play in a #10 role, he will potentially have to play in a midfield 2 and am sure Fergie will let him know in those types of games what is expected of him and if not Fergie the rest of the team will.
By compromising I was thinking of a Sneijder vs Modric situation, where we took the slightly lesser player due to him coming on a much lesser wage.
As for players being weighed down with price tags, I think that is a case by case thing, Berba has openly admitted he was, Rooney on the other hand came as the most expensive teenager in history and England's new golden boy and it didn't phase him at all. Veron was a case of not being suited to the league IMO.
I don't really suppose any of us know what goes through the main man's mind, but just from a fan viewpoint I think it is hard to doubt that Carrick has excelled alongside Giggs, playing his best football in two seasons because of that partnership, now Giggs will be 38 half way through next season, so finding someone younger who can offer the same type of partnership with Carrick would seem a wise move.
Modric is a £25M tops player IMO, but if Fergie chose to spend huge on him I'd not quibble.
I'm not mate, this is a discussion over a potential transfer, it's not about what I personally want, I am just giving my view on why I think it is unlikely to happen, make no mistake, if Sneijder signs I'll be happy.
Should we be in for Modric he would cost about £35-40m, I have no doubts.
Football revenues are at all time highs, demand for quality players far outweighs supply.
Lots of clubs with cash to burn.
Get with the times.
Football revenues are at all time highs, demand for quality players far outweighs supply.
Lots of clubs with cash to burn.
Get with the times.
Taken from the Lord Sugar thread:
Despite generating billions in TV and other income, the professional English game is struggling to make ends meet. Most Premier League clubs are in the red, and debt stands at 3.3 billion pounds.
4-1-2-2-1
Any back four- Carrick- Any two wingers- Rooney, Sneijder?- Hernandez
Warming up to him a bit..
From a play perspective maybe but he would bring significant attitude and arrogance.
Plus I am not sure he would buy into the work ethic necessary.
Plus I am not sure he would buy into the work ethic necessary.
Don't get this myth surrounding Van der Vaart and Sneijder, that somehow they are lazy and/or unfit. They're both neither. Hence they wouldn't have made Ajax to such a competitive team when they were younger and are so good for club and country where ever they go.
Followed both of them closely since they were tweeps in Ajax. Very consistent players over the course of the season. Both can take a man on, both have good first touch, both are good shooters, both have good work ethic. Wish we got them both when Real decided to sell.
I think we need some of that, to be honest - they are times when our midfield appears like a bunch of boys, not men; easily muscled-off the ball, lacking in leadership and, generally, someone to take hold of a given match.
The above isn't as critical of our midfield as it might look - they have talent in areas other than arrogance, attitude, presence etc; I think we could do with a general.
He would be perfect to take over the #7 jersey from Owen.
He's really our missing link i.e. free kick taker creative midfielder good vision great on the ball and a rocket launcher shot.
He's this summer's Ozil.
Isn't going to happen. To expensive and not what we need. There are better options and at a cheaper rate, too.
I'd say he is exactly what we need. A purely creative attacking midfielder. Let's not forget that Rooney is still a striker and played forward he can be prolific.
There's 60 games in a season so we could easily interchange tactics between Rooney and Sneijder in the hole with Chicha or Berbatov up front or Rooney upfront with Sneijder in the hole behind him.
If we found a perfect formula along the way and stuck to it, all the better even if it meant the likes of Hernandez being demoted to an impact sub.
He would be expensive?
But better options? I can only think of Modric and he would cost more than Sniejder imo. I would prefer Modric though.
So we break up the most promising strike partnership in the last few years to spend millions on a player who quite clearly does not fit into our current system?
Why should we change the system or the strikers when it is now working so well?
Sneijder could well be another Berbatov imo, a great player but one who doesn't fit the current system, but for the fees involved will have to be accommodated possibly to the detriment of the team a little too often.
Imo we already have the perfect formula, we only require more complete players for our midfield pairing to better accommodate the front 2 and the wingers. Sneijder is undoubtedly world class, but as i have said imo, not in our particular 4-4-2.
Regardless i believe he will go to City, with Tevez possibly going the other way.
Our last title winning side consisted of playing 4-3-3. Our team will always constantly evolve. Hernandez and Rooney will not suffer from extra creativity which we have been lacking for 2 years.
I think it is more of a myth that Sneijder can not play as part of a midfield two. As good as Rooney might be looking coming deep and spread balls his not in that high band creatively wise to pull it off at the top end like a Wesley Sneijder, which is why i think he will be purchased.
For those saying Modric would cost more than Sneijder, why is that? Sneijder has a bigger reputation worldwide - treble with Inter, world cup final.
But that's the point, the team has evolved. From the 4-3-3 you referred to, to a 4-5-1 last year, and now due to the emergence of Hernandez we are back to a productive 4-4-2.
A present it is only a myth that he can. Unless anyone can point out when and where he has played effectively at a high level as part of a central pair. I personally cannot think of a time when he has, but i admit i may be wrong.
Mainoldo, i am not against Sneijder as a player, i think he is pure class. However i cannot see how we would be getting the best out of him playing him in a role which does not compliment his best attributes. He has played his best football as far as i am aware in a much more advanced role than our current 4-4-2 would allow imo.
I sincerely hope there is someone who knows for a fact, and can confirm that he can in fact play very effectively in a 2. If that turns out to be the case, then fantastic, and i will look forward to his potential signing with relish.
But at this time i do not believe Sneijder and Carrick is the answer to our problems, especially away from home, where 4-4-2 has still been for the most part, SAF's preferred system. Changing the system is always a possibility, but i really cannot believe SAF would change the dynamic and complimentary Rooney/Hernandez pairing, just to accommodate the signing of a very expensive Sneijder.
daniel levy happens to be of a background that is astute with negotiations whereas moratti is not as canny (eto'o deal excepted).
We played 442/4411 much more than we did 433. We still play with two wingers, two strikers.. where does this 433 comes from? Just because Ronaldo play without defensive duties, it doesn't mean we played with a 433.
Was that Rooney behind Ronaldo or Ronaldo behind Rooney?? because that formation never happened. Don't know what you was watching
Either of Sneijder or Modric will cost £35-40m
Rightly so. It is the current market climate and it is unlikely to go chnage anytime soon.
Rightly so. It is the current market climate and it is unlikely to go chnage anytime soon.
Not sure where to post this. Didn't want to start a new thread.
Hopefully we'll be adding two or three players in the summer. We've got some young players coming back like Welbeck, Cleverley and Diouf and we want to be better. I think the ambition of the club doesn't alter.”
Managers Comments post match.
Sounds like its gonna be a busy summer
Hopefully we'll be adding two or three players in the summer. We've got some young players coming back like Welbeck, Cleverley and Diouf and we want to be better. I think the ambition of the club doesn't alter.”
Managers Comments post match.
Sounds like its gonna be a busy summer
Modric plays for a rival who are good at screwing every penny out of us, Modric also has a longer contract length still to run.
I get the feeling that if Sneijder wants to go, Inter will let him whereas Spurs will dig the heels in BIG time!
How long did Sneijder sign for then? I thought he had only just penned a new deal.
Sneijder's wages would probably be double Modric's though. Probably around 8-10m a season compared to Modric 4-5m (very rough figures obviously).
Sneijder on his twiter: "Wow, 19 for Man Utd. Fergie is class."
Modric would make more sense to me. He has proven himself in the PL, wages would not be as high and with Tottenham missing out on Europe, his transfer fee is likely to be half what we'd expect to pay for Sneijder.
cnut
Him and a proper goalkeeper as our summer signings and we are good to go again next season
The whole "Man Utd" pretend outrage has run its course, surely?
Btw I said cnut because that post made me check Sneijder's twitter and there was nothing on it
Ban Donut. He typed "Man Utd" in his wum.
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