Wesley Sneijder

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Mitch Conor said:
Personally, I don't think Sneijder would be any more incapable of playing CM than Giggs is, and we have used Giggs there a good bit this season.
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It's not a question of him being incapable, it is more a question of whether he is the best choice for playing alongside Carrick in a central 2.

Imo no. I believe Banega, Schweinsteiger or Sahin would be better suited to playing deeper. Sneijder imo is most effective playing as the most advanced player in a midfield 3 and would not offer as much defensively as the others i have mentioned.

If we want to play 4-5-1 then Sneijder's the man. But in a 4-4-2 i believe there are other less expensive options who would better fit the requirements of our current system.
 
apotheosis said:
It's not a question of him being incapable, it is more a question of whether he is the best choice for playing alongside Carrick in a central 2.

Imo no. I believe Banega, Schweinsteiger or Sahin would be better suited to playing deeper. Sneijder imo is most effective playing as the most advanced player in a midfield 3 and would not offer as much defensively as the others i have mentioned.

If we want to play 4-5-1 then Sneijder's the man. But in a 4-4-2 i believe there are other less expensive options who would better fit the requirements of our current system.
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Agree with that. It's not that I don't think Sneijder can do it, just that we could find players better suited to the role and that buying him may either mean we abandon Rooney and Hernandez up front or have a very open midfield. He'd improve us but he might end up being like Veron where we'd be asking him to do things that aren't natural to him.
 
I'm not picky, yes to any of the above.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
My only issue with signing a playmaker like Snejider is it might make it harder for us to start Nani and Valencia together in big games. That is why playmakers who have bite of the Modric and Bangea ilk make more sense.
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I'm not sure anything will change as regards Park's big game spot, no matter who we get as a playmaker.
 
He's a cracking player but, if we could get either Modric or him then Modric for me - if anything because seemingly less ego. Our squad depth and rotation has been so instrumental in our season, would hate to see a player in a huff if he isn't playing most games. For some reason I get the impression Sneijder would be that type.

Still, if he can buy into the philosophy of the club and the work required by everyone on the pitch, then he is #3 on my CM muppet list (#1 being unattainable Schweiny, #2 Modric).
 
Any attacking mid bought would need to be able to fit into the team with Rooney in his current role. Otherwise they will be of limited use in big games as Rooney always plays those. In fact Rooney might be the ready-made answer to those looking for more midfield creativity. Sneijder is expensive, not particularly young, has been injury prone, and is not especially adaptable.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
My only issue with signing a playmaker like Snejider is it might make it harder for us to start Nani and Valencia together in big games. That is why playmakers who have bite of the Modric and Bangea ilk make more sense.
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But the thing you must have noticed over the years about SAF is that he doesn't prefer attacking mids like Kaka, Ozil , Modric etc.

He rather prefers mid fielders who will stay close to the center of the pitch.

And plus with Rooney playing that role in the hole again, I doubt SAF will for a proper attacking midfielder.
 
I highly doubt we are going to get both Sanchez and Sneidjer. It is going to be either one of them because each of them would cost us £30m. So I think we will get Sniedjer and City will get Sanchez.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, the style & combative nature of Wesley is required in many Premiership games, to gain 3 points that is.
 
I'd prefer Modric, purely because of his experience in the PL and his ability to play on the wing. It may not be his best position but he'd fit the United way much simpler. There's not many of our players that are unable to play in more than one role. Modric also seems to have more bottle, if maybe a little weaker
 
Cold_Boy said:
But the thing you must have noticed over the years about SAF is that he doesn't prefer attacking mids like Kaka, Ozil , Modric etc.
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He loved Scholes of years. Scholes was also very much like Ozil and Kaka for years.

Cold_Boy said:
He rather prefers mid fielders who will stay close to the center of the pitch.
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Modric does just that. He plays like Giggs does in center midfield. Snejider can too but the problem is he'd need a Park totart to use him vs big teams, the way having Beckham wide right helped us use Scholes in his younger days. . A Modric wouldn't because defending comes natural to him, despite what many on here used to think.

Cold_Boy said:
And plus with Rooney playing that role in the hole again, I doubt SAF will for a proper attacking midfielder.
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I wonder. I thought even in Scholes earlier days we still functioned well with an in the hole player like Yorke/ Sheringham, with Schoels in behind. SAF might be tempted to bring that back if he can teach like Nani to be better defensively.
 
Not for that money. Rooney is doing a great job in that position and has the better work rate. I would rather keep rooney in that position and buy another class centre forward.
 
Stookie said:
Not for that money. Rooney is doing a great job in that position and has the better work rate. I would rather keep rooney in that position and buy another class centre forward.
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Sneijder wouldn't play in Rooney's role, he'd play in Giggsy's.

Personally I think he'd be perfect, Giggs isn't getting any younger (although I have my doubts) and the team looks sooooo good with him in CM, swap Giggs for Sneijder and.... :drool:
 
Sharky7 said:
Sneijder wouldn't play in Rooney's role, he'd play in Giggsy's.

Personally I think he'd be perfect, Giggs isn't getting any younger (although I have my doubts) and the team looks sooooo good with him in CM, swap Giggs for Sneijder and.... :drool:
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:lol:

Sorry had to laugh at that. We've been saying that for years and will again next season.

It's more a question of who can fill that role;Sneijder can but will the price be too high? I'd go for Modric personally, thought he played really well against Blackpool
 
Inigo Montoya said:
It's more a question of who can fill that role;Sneijder can but will the price be too high? I'd go for Modric personally, thought he played really well against Blackpool
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I think both Modric and Sneijder could fill that role but if you think Modric would be the cheaper option then I think you'll find you're very wrong.
 
Hope not. Cost too much he is lazy tracking back but does pack a mean free kick and passing.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
His price wont. Modric would cost as more than Berbatov.
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Yeah, but if Sneijder is costing us 80k a week more (thinking 200k v 120k) then over 5 years would cost us 20,800,000 more. Better spend the money on Modric I feel, less risk also as he's used to the league.
 
Fiskey said:
Yeah, but if Sneijder is costing us 80k a week more (thinking 200k v 120k) then over 5 years would cost us 20,800,000 more. Better spend the money on Modric I feel, less risk also as he's used to the league.
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Modric will also demand about 70m and will cost far more. It makes no real difference either way.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Modric will also demand about 70m and will cost far more. It makes no real difference either way.
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Think Modric is on about 65k now, can't see why an offer of 120k and a mvoe to the biggest club in the country would not be enough to tempt him. And I think if Spurs don't get Champions league he will be available for under 40million hopefully 35million while Sneijder would be 30million.

Given those very random figures I would go for Modric.
 
Fiskey said:
Think Modric is on about 65k now, can't see why an offer of 120k and a mvoe to the biggest club in the country would not be enough to tempt him. And I think if Spurs don't get Champions league he will be available for under 40million hopefully 35million while Sneijder would be 30million.

Given those very random figures I would go for Modric.
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Plus the added factor of Chelsea now. They could easily match Sneijder's wages and transfer fee, and they need him.

Modric has long been someone who would fit in easily at OT.He wouldn't quibble about not starting the odd game and be a part of a squad.He also has considerable PL experience
 
We won't go for either Modric is 26 in September and Tottenham will rape us on the price. Sneijder is 26 in July. Don't we have a policy on price regards the age of the player?
 
Commadus said:
We won't go for either Modric is 26 in September and Tottenham will rape us on the price. Sneijder is 26 in July. Don't we have a policy on price regards the age of the player?
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We have a loose structure of preferring to develop younger players, but if the manager feels he needs to sign an already world class player then he rarely hesitates. Besides, at the ages of 25/26, both players have considerably lengthy careers ahead of them.
 
Commadus said:
We won't go for either Modric is 26 in September and Tottenham will rape us on the price. Sneijder is 26 in July. Don't we have a policy on price regards the age of the player?
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we may have a policy where we lean toward younger players but it isn't written in stone despite what the meeja would have you believe

still, I'd be surprised if we went for either of these two
 
Nothing is set in stone, and if anything, our performances with and without Giggs surely show how much we need a creative force in the middle, a good passer who is comfortable on the ball. If Anderson had progressed as much as we'd hoped for, maybe we wouldn't need to sign a player in that mould. But he hasn't, Scholes may retire, Giggs can only play once a week, and signing a young player in the hope he'll progress quickly enough may be costly while we wait for him to mature.

Not that an older player is guarenteed to succeed, we know that. But it seems some people here have gone all 'Wenger' with the idea we'll only sign young players and won't sign ready-made players. If there's one that will take us to another level, I believe we will go for it. The idea 26 year old players are too old for us is ridiculous.
 
Amir said:
Nothing is set in stone, and if anything, our performances with and without Giggs surely show how much we need a creative force in the middle, a good passer who is comfortable on the ball. If Anderson had progressed as much as we'd hoped for, maybe we wouldn't need to sign a player in that mould. But he hasn't, Scholes may retire, Giggs can only play once a week, and signing a young player in the hope he'll progress quickly enough may be costly while we wait for him to mature.

Not that an older player is guarenteed to succeed, we know that. But it seems some people here have gone all 'Wenger' with the idea we'll only sign young players and won't sign ready-made players. If there's one that will take us to another level, I believe we will go for it. The idea 26 year old players are too old for us is ridiculous.
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Fergie has succesfully managed his squad for years - bringing in a mix of younger and established players to get the balance right. He has also spent big money when required to get the player he wants.

This season Fergie has worked miracles with an accomplished and experienced squad which probably lacks the real quaility of other United teams but has made of for it with hard work and the manager's tactical nouse.

Seems to me though that he recognises where the weaknesses are and has been a little dissapointed over the course of the year by some players failure to step up when called upon.

I can see a few players coming in this year, especially as the coffers are likely to be swelled by the clubs success. He'll also be aware that Chelsea will no doubt spend big and Arsenal are only a couple of decent signings away from building a side capable of winning the league, not to mention City.
 
Sharky7 said:
WHo should take them?
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Rooney. I think he's a brilliant free-kick taker but sadly doesn't get too many chances to take them. He has taken some more recently mind you but when Nani is on the pitch, God love him, we have to sit through the painful Ronaldo impersonation freekicks, which often are wasted.
 
Aaron said:
Rooney. I think he's a brilliant free-kick taker but sadly doesn't get too many chances to take them. He has taken some more recently mind you but when Nani is on the pitch, God love him, we have to sit through the painful Ronaldo impersonation freekicks, which often are wasted.
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Well that's because he's not a FK specialist. He's been with us almost 7 years and scored only a few. We don't have a free kick specialist in our team and that's one area we should be looking at to improve.
 
Aaron said:
Rooney. I think he's a brilliant free-kick taker but sadly doesn't get too many chances to take them. He has taken some more recently mind you but when Nani is on the pitch, God love him, we have to sit through the painful Ronaldo impersonation freekicks, which often are wasted.
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Rooney has taken tonnes of free kicks since joining the club. He's generally fecking useless with them.
 
He scored one of his debut and one against West Ham, can't remember any other freekicks that he's scored from. He's pretty shit at them in all honesty.
 
Aint gota Kalou said:
He scored one of his debut and one against West Ham, can't remember any other freekicks that he's scored from. He's pretty shit at them in all honesty.
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He's improved a lot in the free kick-department the last couple of months. Even though he only has scored against West Ham recently, he's consistently been testing the goalkeeper.
 
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