He's also the agent or his agency handles stuff for Rodwell and Al Habsi as well.
Wesley Sneijder
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I have a feeling this summers transfers will be solely down to wanting to play for MUFC. Money wise we don't stand a chance. No mercenaries please.
3 CL finals in 4 years is a bigger draw for 99% of players than money.
omfg, this one..... 
Can they though? The FPP means that while they might still be able to afford to throw some big money on a transfer, offering big wages will still affect their accounts for the future and will limit their future spending.
They have no option to be somewhat sensible and if they aren't it'll hurt them in the future and we'll benefit then.
Neither seem to currently be giving a crap about the regs and I can't really see that changing. I guess they are just gambling that the policing of the rule will be none existant.
Ain't happening and I'm glad to be honest. He'd be a massive waste of money considering he wouldn't fit into our system unless he played his secondary position as part of CM, he's also a selfish cnut on the ball.
We need a CM with a creative element, not a number 10 who we'd have to tweak our formation for and who'd cost far too much.
We need a CM with a creative element, not a number 10 who we'd have to tweak our formation for and who'd cost far too much.
I actually think Fergie wants him, this story has went on and on while more affordable options have barely even been linked with us, however I don't think we will go down the wages route needed to get him.
Modric
Back in January I'd have loved it we got Sneijder but with Rooney now playing where Sneijder would want to operate I'd rather we signed Modric who can play as a CM in a 4-4-2 and would probably cost the same amount.
Sneijder could play 442 just as well as Modric can imo. He has pushed further forward since his move to Madrid, but he played CM for Ajax and Holland a lot.
Surely Sneijder coming in would push Rooney away from his position that he is currently revelling in? I can't see us paying £40m for him and £200,000+ on wages
Modric would be half of those figures
Modric would be half of those figures
Snejder is my number one choice, if we can't get him then i will be happy with Modric.
Eh? He's one of the most creative players in the world.
So what? He wouldn't fit into our system and playing him in CM would not do any good because it's his secondary position and he has a tendancy to go missing unless the team is built around him, we can't offer him that because a lot of our attacking play is based on width and pace on the flanks, something we'd have to sacrifice to shoehorn him into the team.
He'd be a Seba Veron, vanity purchase IMO, great talent and proven class act but if we get him, like Seba, we'll struggle to fit him into our system especially now that Rooney has got the role playing off Hernandez down to a tee.
Someone who can play in CM for a whole season and who'll add creativity from there is what we need, Modric, Schweinsteiger, or someone of that ilk is what we need, not a number 10 who'd cost a king's ransom in fee and salary.
Ah right, read your post wrong, thought you were saying that he's not creative.
Sneijder and Modric would be comparable in price due to Spurs reluctancy to sell and history of making us pay over the odds.
Not to mention the fact Sneijder is clearly a superior player to Modric.
Not to mention the fact Sneijder is clearly a superior player to Modric.
Yeah, but one is an excellent creative CM, which is exactly what we need, the other is a number 10 albeit a very good one, which is not what we need. Not to mention that Modric has PL experience and a vastly lower salary in his favour.
Sneijder is the superior player, but Modric is more the type of player we need in that he's adept at offering creativity and ball retention in CM rather than needing the whole team to be structured to suit his game like Sneijder does. That is the difference.
I happen to think Schweinsteiger is the ideal player for us to sign but he signed an extension at Bayern recently.
One is an excellent creative CM, which is exactly what we need, the other is an excellent creative CM who likes to play further up also but can also play CM which is also what we need. He is versatile.
PL experience is a
to me constantly, everyone always brings it up, 'no PL experience' well... so what? Modric didn't have PL experience before he came here, neither did Ronaldo, neither did Nani, neither did Anderson. Nobody has PL experience until they play their first game. It shouldn't enter into your head as a reason not to buy someone. You're either good enough at football or you're not. If you're good enough then you're given the chance to play and impress. You get PL experience by playing PL games, just because you don't have it doesn't mean you can't ever have it.
This perception that you need to have PL experience in order to considered a valid option is only true if the player in question cannot adapt to different surroundings. Fortunately, this perception rarely holds true for good players which debunkers it back to where it came from.
Sneijder would enhance our squad as much as Modric would.
Sneijder would enhance our squad as much as Modric would.
I think you're very correct in suggesting Schweinsteiger, a perfect summer for United would be Schweinsteiger, Sneijder and Sanchez for me.
Neuer too!
The problem is I'd probably have to put the money up myself.
id prefer Modric because he really does get stuck in in midfield. A player that will do a lot of damage when in possession but we don't need to carry when we are defending is a great option.
Sneijder isn't exactly known for his work rate.
Modric at united would be like the current version of scholes but greater energy and pace.
Or like the old scholes minus the goals
Sneijder isn't exactly known for his work rate.
Modric at united would be like the current version of scholes but greater energy and pace.
Or like the old scholes minus the goals
You sure you haven't seen him play?! He'll be fine in the centre of a midfield 2. His not a stubborn midfielder he's just given a role for club and country that benefits the players they have.
I'm guessing the wage affordability may be offset with the expected retirement of Scholes and mooted departure of Berbatov.
Because he's technically gifted a lot of you are just assuming he's lazy, he's far from it and can put in a shift defensively when needed. I wouldn't mind us paying an extra £10m to get him instead of Modric not only because he's more of a goal threat but his excellent set pieces which is one area we have been struggling with a bit since Ronaldo left.
Modric is one of those players who I really enjoy watching but never worries me at all when we face him, for the ability he has he should be far more productive and although goals aren't everything you'd still expect him to get more than he does currently.
Modric is one of those players who I really enjoy watching but never worries me at all when we face him, for the ability he has he should be far more productive and although goals aren't everything you'd still expect him to get more than he does currently.
I've decided we don't need him.
I agree, we could have done with him last season, when we were playing Rooney up front on his own. However now we are back to a 4-4-2, i just don't see where he would fit in.
For the type of money being spoken about i would much rather buy a player such as Banega who gives a bit of everything and then give a chance to Cleverley.
£40m for either Modric or Sneijder imo is way too much for either, if we are going to spunk our entire budget on one player then feck it, i'd bid £50m for Fabregas, who imo is the best midfielder in the world bar none.
Ive seen him play almost every weekend.
Maybe its because his position at inter does not require him to do much defensive work but I do get the impression that he does get a bit lazy especially late on in games.
Then again the more I think of it, it probably is his position at inter that allows him to do less work defensively.
One is an excellent creative CM, which is exactly what we need, the other is an excellent creative CM who likes to play further up also but can also play CM which is also what we need. He is versatile.
PL experience is a
No he's not. Real tried and epically failed to get him to perform consistently in CM, eventually they gave up and sold him. There is a difference between being able to play somewhere and enhancing the team while playing there. Sneijder would not benefit us as a CM, certainly not for £30m+ and £200k a week, and he certainly would not benefit us by playing in the hole and breaking up the Rooney-Hernandez partnership that we've got brewing nicely.
I never said that Sneijder having no PL experience should stop us signing him, it's just another string to Modric's bow. The reason we should not buy Sneijder is simply because he wouldn't fit in here and at those sort of figures, he'd be a huge gamble and someone we'd have to adapt our style to rather than vice-versa.
Would be a good signing but I feel the (vast) money could be better spent elsewhere. Would prefer us to buy 'up and coming' younger players with their best years to come than the 'finished article'. Of course I wouldn't complain about getting a world class player though.
Most likely complete bullshit anyway.
Most likely complete bullshit anyway.
It does make me laugh reading through this thread, how linear some people think football is. "can't play in our 4-4-2 system", "doesn't do enough work defensively", "will be playing in the number 10 role to the detriment of Rooney". He's a quality footballer, with technical ability, passing ability and an eye for goal. There's no player out there that is going to be the perfect peice to the jigsaw, you just have to choose someone with the quality and materials to be put into the jigsaw and adapt to it and in some cases have the jigsaw adapt to the peice.
If anyone thinks that our midfield wouldn't benefit from having a player of Sneijder's quality and creativity is crazy. If I had to take a guess as to how our team would adapt I'd guess that Carrick would sit deeper and play the role he enjoys of protecting the back four, playing short passes out and releasing our other pacy more attacking outlets. As a 4-4-2 I'd expect Rooney to be dropping deeper and supporting the midfield anyway and it's never the big games we play 4-4-2 in anyway so a midfield of Sneijder and carrick with any of our wingers would be strong enough whereas in a 4-5-1 having the likes of Anderson or Fletcher offering their qualities would definitely be complimentary.
I just think people look too much into reasons why this quality player wouldn't work for us. Footballs a simple game and when you have the quality Sneijder does, you find a way to fit in.
If anyone thinks that our midfield wouldn't benefit from having a player of Sneijder's quality and creativity is crazy. If I had to take a guess as to how our team would adapt I'd guess that Carrick would sit deeper and play the role he enjoys of protecting the back four, playing short passes out and releasing our other pacy more attacking outlets. As a 4-4-2 I'd expect Rooney to be dropping deeper and supporting the midfield anyway and it's never the big games we play 4-4-2 in anyway so a midfield of Sneijder and carrick with any of our wingers would be strong enough whereas in a 4-5-1 having the likes of Anderson or Fletcher offering their qualities would definitely be complimentary.
I just think people look too much into reasons why this quality player wouldn't work for us. Footballs a simple game and when you have the quality Sneijder does, you find a way to fit in.
Real tried and failed with a lot of things and a lot of players before they gave up and sold them too. Real Madrid and how players fared there doesn't enter into any rational debate about anybody nor can be taken seriously.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you, but our current 4-4-2 system which we have played in the majority of games this season, does see Rooney dropping deep into the area where Sneijder imo, is most effective.
I think it's a little unfair to say people are looking for reasons for him not to fit in. If we are to buy him we are entitled to speculate on how he would best improve our team. I personally think Sneijder is less effective the deeper he plays. Considering the figures being bandied about, i just don't see the point of spending fortunes on a player who cannot possibly be accommodated in our current system in his best position.
You may not think we play 4-4-2 in big games, but this year we have for the most part, admittedly for some games we may turn to a 4-5-1, but we are talking literally a handful of games. Seems a hell of a lot of money to spend on a player widely acknowledged to be most effective in a central 3 of some form or another, yet will possibly only be played in his most effective position in maybe 10 games of a 60 game season.
Don't want him.
I imagine Sneijder would play alongside Carrick in the same way Giggs has been doing recently.
Modric doesn't seem to pass the ball as regular as Scholes or Sniejder, he tends to run with it more and he has low assist and scoring tally's, I'm not sure how that would suit our wing based play.
Personally, I don't think Sneijder would be any more incapable of playing CM than Giggs is, and we have used Giggs there a good bit this season.
Exactly what I've been thinking, he would give us a CM who will support our forwards as well and at times run beyond them, which Giggs has done so brilliantly in conjunction with Rooney recently.
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