Both... and hence no major net effect, I'd have thought?
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Both... and hence no major net effect, I'd have thought?
Moratti really know how to confirm that Sneijder will not be sold any time soon.......
Moratti: "There is nothing to report"
Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:18:22
MILAN - "There is no news. There is really nothing to report." These were the words from Massimo Moratti upon leaving the offices of the headquarters of the Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II. The Inter president smiled to the many journalists there waiting: "It is your choice to wait here... There is nothing to report..."
Moratti: "There is nothing to report"
Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:18:22
MILAN - "There is no news. There is really nothing to report." These were the words from Massimo Moratti upon leaving the offices of the headquarters of the Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II. The Inter president smiled to the many journalists there waiting: "It is your choice to wait here... There is nothing to report..."
Spot on Twigg.
Roll on Thursday, when this fecking thread can be thrown away!
Broken record.
It's the busiest section of this forum. Hence likely brings in enough revenue to keep this forum ticking. How about I do you a favour and stop you viewing this section if you're so concerned?
Depends on each investor's judgment, doesn't it? Some will view it as a positive investment that will translate to future benefits/profits, some will consider it as management stupidly burning cash.
Nothing different from other publicly listed companies making capital expenditure for acquisitions.
I am tired of your holier-than-thou bullshit, you make judgements about what people are happy about and you say people are fascinated by things based on what, a few internet posts? If people are interested in a transfer saga then good for them, if they have a 'weird fascination' that you can't understand then why are you bothered by it? Stop reading the thread if it upsets you that much, it is none of your business what other people post about, and it is none of your concern if it reflects badly on the forum.
It won't make any difference, Sneijder's value on our books will be equal to the transfer fee we pay.
Can someone please link to the berba thread? I was in the pub that night and am guessing anything I posted was garbage
Everything you post is garbage
will be a good signing. welcome to manchester wesley.
Redcafe was clear that we needed to find a replacement for Scholes, and SAF pointed out the same on several occasions. Is this no longer necessary?, and is it in accordance with SAF's usual actions to change opinion about such things based on a few good games from a rookie?
We might have not been able to find a replacement at affordable price so we altered our formation to fit in Cleverley and Anderson in the middle, it has worked very well so far with both lads busting their guts. Our current side is all about pace and it works nicely so perhaps we have found alternative way of surviving Scholes' retirement.
Are they going to play every game for us this season? We need more options in the middle. If we play Carrick and Fletcher in the middle, they give absolutely no creativity. They will start hoofing the ball to the strikers and wingers and hence loose possession easily. We need to play more through the middle.
We do but if there's no-one available (or affordable, seemingly in Sneijder's case) that suits our needs then it's hardly the end of the world if we wait another year, surely? And by that time who knows what'll have happened with our younger players, maybe Pogba or Morrison (or even Tunniclife) will be ready to take a place in the squad.
Good point, but it can also be such that we actually and still are seeking opportunities to buy the best Scholes- replacement in the world.
If we don't sign Sneidjer this summer, there is absolutely no way we will sign him next summer. I just think we should have still put in a firm offer of around £25m for Götze. He is going to play in the Euros next summer and who ever wants him will have to pay over the odds.
We have Carrick and Fletcher who are both very good midfielders and offer something different. Then there's Giggs who has been primarly a midfielder for the past five years or so, and Park who has played in there for us before although in a slightly different role. We could also use Jones in there. Then there's Gibson who hasn't left and will probably remain at United for one more season and then go for free.
It seems that Ferguson doesn't want to bring in a player just to bulk up numbers. In fact he seldom does that at all, when he signs a player it's usually for the first team. He could have gone for someone like Parker and put him on the bench but I'm convinced he prefers to promote a youngster to do that.
Just because there's been no reports of an offer doesn't mean we haven't made an enquiry. Maybe we already have asked about Gotze and - as has been repeatedly said, by club, player and agent - there's no chance of a move happening yet.
Gotze isn't exactly what we need if we are going to play with two in the middle, he will be as expensive as Sneijder right now and Dortmund will be VERY relucant to the idea of selling him after already losing Sahin. I think we don't explore German market too much either, otherwise we would have tried to sign Sahin who is much more suited to our style.
For the premier league I think we are fine with the players we have. You have just listed the players who played centrally for us last season and what happened against Barca. They ripped us to shreds. Yeah and people like Parker and Barton would walk into our team and people would be happy to see them here but you wouldn't want a proven world class player in our side.
They'll play most of them if they carry on as they are. Why do you assume they'll be dropped? Ronaldo when he was here played on average around 50 games a season (funnily enough the season he scored 42 goals he only played 49 games, less games than the seasons before and after!) If he was fit (and even when he wasn't fully fit e.g. Everton away 06/07) he played because he was crucial to the team. Rooney's the same. If he's fit and even if he isn't fully fit (e.g. Bayern home 09/10) he plays.
If it is the case that the revival of United's famed fast flowing football is down to Cleverley and Anderson I can't see them being dropped. In which case why go out and spend £30m on someone else? The other centre midfielders we have got are plenty good enough to come in and do a job for 15-20 games of the season should we end up having a 60 game year with Cleverley and Ando as the first XI centre midfield pairing.
We might've tried to sign Sahin but were told he was set on going to Madrid, as we might have with Ozil. Bemuses me that people think no links means no offers, despite everyone being aware that the papers aren't worth trusting when it comes to transfers. Didn't Sir Alex say we looked at signing Villa but he wouldn't leave Spain, yet there were few if any links to that?
I never said Parker or Barton would walk into our team. I said Ferguson could possibly bring someone like Parker to add numbers to our midfield but he doesn't do that kind of stuff often.
Barcelona would rip us to shreds anyway, Sneijder wouldn't help in slightest and neither would Gotze. Catching up with them will be a lengthy process that will involve buying and developing players as well as creating a new system that can work as well as theirs. It cannot be done overnight but long term we do have a chance.
If we are just buying players like Parker to warm the bench, I'd rather we give chances to Pogba and give him some experience if he is not going on loan.
I am not saying we would just bridge the gap magically overnight if we get Sneidjer or Götze but we will definitely be a step closer and they would not rip us apart the next time we play them if we have either of them. I can already see the improvement in our play this season when compared to last season, especially the start we had last time around.
Thank god. The last 24 hours of muppetry and it will all be over. Why is a part of me feeling that its going to go all crazy, weird and unpredictable in the last day.
Thank god. The last 24 hours of muppetry and it will all be over. Why is a part of me feeling that its going to go all crazy, weird and unpredictable in the last day.
Has the final day been any different?
Thank god. The last 24 hours of muppetry and it will all be over. Why is a part of me feeling that its going to go all crazy, weird and unpredictable in the last day.
23 hours
23 hours and then we're free of all this speculation about why we're not signing anybody and why we're stong enough as we are etc etc......
There have been been numerous instances in recent years of fans deliberately making-up possible transfers, sometimes involving players who don't actually exist, just to see if respected/established journalists 'bite'. And, without fail, they have: not only tweeting rumours they've read on message boards, but actually publishing full-on articles about made-up players such as 'Jimmy Kong' and others; even Caf members have played this trick.
Also, there seems to be a genuine lack of proper ITKs on the Caf and elsewhere. So, given that even professional reporters/broadcasters like Howard Nurse are often completely unprofessional to the extent of not even using Google to check out a player, how on earth can Caf posters be blamed for not differentiating between proper sources and the ramblings of fantasists and wind-up merchants? Remember how reporters from a respected Italian source of information, Gazzetta dello Sport, claimed that Sneijder had already signed for City? Wrong, all the way...and yet few are calling them 'muppets'.
At the end of the day, we too simply don't know if Sneijder will come here (personally I'd be amazed if he does, as one would think SAF would have wanted the player here in pre-season, not now) but there's really nothing wrong with speculating - after all, that's exactly what the professionals are doing, and they're not above being less than scrupulous about it.
As for the thread supposedly degenerating into silliness and random chat, what Caf thread doesn't? There's a perfectly good 'Sneijder Update' thread for those who want info without extraneous comment; this thread though, is no better or worse than numerous Caf threads, yet it has critics galore. Funnily enough, in some cases these are not even hardcore fans or devoted Caf members - far from 'posting while matches are on', they don't even bother to post anything bar nonsensical criticism (of United players, SAF, who and whatever) that would put the newbies to shame.
This post was not particularly aimed at you, Twigg - instead, it's aimed at some pretty joyless people, some of whom (I suspect) simply don't like this thread because their own posts elsewhere aren't getting similar attention.
Right cnuts, cocks out!
It was aimed at him, wasn't it?
No, only part of it, to be honest. My main problem is with people (unlike Twigg) who play very little part in the 'life' of the forum, yet try to dictate how others (including the mods) behave.
If we sign him, the caf will just explode
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