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it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.

You've been smoking that kryptochronickinalike?
 
Because its all about Barcelona, are the current United good enough to win EPL, Of course! United are the reigning champions! So if you wanna improve the champions team, you do it, to take the team to another level to fight Barcelona. Sneijder would improve the team, but United would still be way behind barcelona. So what is the point of it? United is second best team in europe already.

To answer the last question well sometimes i sit on my chair look through the window outside, start thinking for few seconds and boom like of nowhere some random stuff comes to my mind. and i think 'wow thats a good idea, i should share it on red cafe'

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There isn't a single midfielder out there who would be as good as what Barcelona have at the moment. Sneijder, however, is the best available midfielder.
 
I suspect you didn't act youthful at 30 and all. But yeah, a bald patch is a huge sign of aging/being middle aged. When I was 30, I looked 21.

Balding is just a genetic thing - doesn't affect mentality - just appearance. My main gripe about it was that it effectively limited my hairstyle options.

I've had various styles of beards continuously (bar a couple of periods of regrowing after appearing in half beards on a couple of occasions) since I was 18. I think I was more serious at 20 than I was at 30 tbh.
 
I like Sneijder, and if we sign him I'll be happy, but I have to say, I agree with Valentino here.. Sneijder is no Messi or Ronaldo. He is just a MIDDLE aged midfielder (yes in football, 27 is middle aged) who is very good at best, but that's it. We don't even know if he can fit in our midfield or if he can adapt to the premier league yet. (Please, co**s in, who thought Torres would fail like that in his first year with Chelsea?)

Think you're doing him a disservice there, 2 years ago he was the best player in Europe and helped his team make the WC final, "very good" at best, he's one of the best footballers in the world.
 
it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.

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it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.

That is, without doubt, one of the greatest posts I've ever read on here.
 
it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.

Thank God that United has hired SAF and not someone like you. Knocking Liverpool off their perch and winning the league would have looked a massive task that no one could have achieved. Yet look at us now.

We're Manchester United FFS. If there's a way to become stronger then we take it. One can argue if getting Sneijder is the best course of action or not but there's no way that we should settle for second best without any real attempt of improving.
 
you guys are pathetic all this sneijder obsession. you think he will come to Manchester and will defeat barca on his own? the truth is Sneijder wont change a thing in match up vs Barca. They would not even take him on free transfer after they got Fabregas. They would say well Sneijder for free is a good deal, but we aint paying 200k wages for a guy who wont make our bench. And thats what sneijder is just some holland middle age dude whp wouldnt even make barcelona bench.

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it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.

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Thank God that United has hired SAF and not someone like you. Knocking Liverpool off their perch and winning the league would have looked a massive task that no one could have achieved. Yet look at us now.

We're Manchester United FFS. If there's a way to become stronger then we take it. One can argue if getting Sneijder is the best course of action or not but there's no way that we should settle for second best without any real attempt of improving.

well absolutely. Improvement is great. I am just referring to some guys on this thread who you would think consider signing snejder life or death situation. The expectations of him are simple unrealistic.
 
well absolutely. Improvement is great. I am just referring to some guys on this thread who you would think consider signing snejder life or death situation. The expectations of him are simple unrealistic.

think of the fecking jews man, they need this, year after year they watch the other kids with envious eyes... you of all people should understand their longing Valentino.
 
Think you're doing him a disservice there, 2 years ago he was the best player in Europe and helped his team make the WC final, "very good" at best, he's one of the best footballers in the world.

Look, we don't call many players "a very good midfielder", so it's not like I'm saying many players are better than him.. He is in the top 20 probably, and on paper, he'll definitely be our best midfielder, no doubt about it, but he can't change that much alone, and it's too soon to talk about him before we see how he can settle in United and the premier league. So he is VERY GOOD, but we are not buying a Messi or a Ronaldo.

Second, his success with Inter was: 1- two years ago 2- attributed mainly to Mourinho, and a (little) bit of luck (as they weren't the favorites by any means at the beginning of the season) 3- the last thing he's achieved since. 4- not enough for him to make the top 3 players in the world list, despite his GREAT success with Inter, which supports the thought that Inter's success wasn't primarily due to his individual efforts, even though he played VERY well in that season..

Again, he is a VERY good midfielder, but he can't quite make a BIG difference if the team as a whole is not quite up for it.
 
Keane was an inspirational figure for both young Scholes and Beckham. He lead them in the right direction, he covered their arses when they found lacking (mostly because of lack of experience) and he kept them in line. We don't have that type of player now. Giggs could have do it but he's got 1 yr max left in him. Who will do that? Carrick? Park in midfield? Gibson? Fletcher?

Agreed, basically. It's all about balance. Right now, we don't have that in midfield. We've got players who are quite good, a very old player who is terrific and a couple of younger lads who may be good enough and might not. We need one, dominant figure there to complete it.
 
think of the fecking jews man, they need this, year after year they watch the other kids with envious eyes... you of all people should understand their longing Valentino.

but if the jews were looking closely they should know that expensive gifts doesnt always bring long term joy.

4 of the 7 most expensive players ever were disasters for their new clubs. With bigger money, comes bigger risks.
 
Look, we don't call many players "a very good midfielder", so it's not like I'm saying many players are better than him.. He is in the top 20 probably, and on paper, he'll definitely be our best midfielder, no doubt about it, but he can't change that much alone, and it's too soon to talk about him before we see how he can settle in United and the premier league. So he is VERY GOOD, but we are not buying a Messi or a Ronaldo.

Second, his success with Inter was: 1- two years ago 2- attributed mainly to Mourinho, and a (little) bit of luck (as they weren't the favorites by any means at the beginning of the season) 3- the last thing he's achieved since. 4- not enough for him to make the top 3 players in the world list, despite his GREAT success with Inter, which supports the thought that Inter's success wasn't primarily due to his individual efforts, even though he played VERY well in that season..

Again, he is a VERY good midfielder, but he can't quite make a BIG difference if the team as a whole is not quite up for it.

Do you have two accounts Danny? Are you Valentino too?
 
Again, he is a VERY good midfielder, but he can't quite make a BIG difference if the team as a whole is not quite up for it.

Why wouldn't our team be up for it?

Ronaldo is in the top 2 players in the World, he also couldn't make much a difference when his team was getting spanked by Barca. Weird comment :confused:
 
Why wouldn't our team be up for it?

Ronaldo is in the top 2 players in the World, he also couldn't make much a difference when his team was getting spanked by Barca. Weird comment :confused:

If he doesn't make such a BIG difference alone, then may be we should calm down a little bit at least until he actually signs.. He is not THAT big a deal like some are trying to make him look like, our life-saver! That's the point you didn't get..

Besides, if you think that we are up for it, why then do you think we need Sneijder so desparately??
 
If he doesn't make such a BIG difference alone, then may be we should calm down a little bit at least until he actually signs.. He is not THAT big a deal like some are trying to make him look like, our life-saver! That's the point you didn't get..

Besides, if you think that we are up for it, why then do you think we need Sneijder so desparately??

I think we quite obviously need to bridge a gap on Barcelona, Europe is a big priority for SAF and this club. Now have we strengthened since playing them last? where did we suffer most?

I think to compete with Barca we need "at least" one of the world's top midfielders, simples really. It might not be enough still but we'd be more likely to give them a run for their money with a better midfield than we would with the same midfield.
 
If he doesn't make such a BIG difference alone, then may be we should calm down a little bit at least until he actually signs.. He is not THAT big a deal like some are trying to make him look like, our life-saver! That's the point you didn't get..

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thats exactly what i have been saying for last 2 pages to them. they just dont get it. :wenger:
 
it is weird when you put it this way. ok nevermind then.

It just felt like we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.
It seems like you are taking it for granted that we are going to retain the Premier League this year, it's far from a certainty, especially if we perform the same in away games as we did last season.
 
Well yeah, I don't think Sneijder's all that anymore. His signing just doesn't cut it for me and my little friend anymore. And Cleverley's miles better anyway. So yeah. Doesn't need him really.

PLEASE SAF feckING SIGN HIM ALRIGHT
 
I think we quite obviously need to bridge a gap on Barcelona, Europe is a big priority for SAF and this club. Now have we strengthened since playing them last? where did we suffer most?

I think to compete with Barca we need "at least" one of the world's top midfielders, simples really. It might not be enough still but we'd be more likely to give them a run for their money with a better midfield than we would with the same midfield.

Now that's another thing.. If we want to improve our chances against Barcelona, then I don't really agree that Sneijder is going to do that. Sneijder could help us improve against all teams probably, except Barcelona.. Because with Barcelona what you need is to strengthen your defense. Forget trying to match them in ball possession or midfield control. You won't be able to achieve that, especially with one player.. If you want to beat Barcelona then the easiest way to do it is Mourinho's way, defense and aggresiveness, and Sneijder is not known for having such qualities..
 
Now that's another thing.. If we want to improve our chances against Barcelona, then I don't really agree that Sneijder is going to do that. Sneijder could help us improve against all teams probably, except Barcelona.. Because with Barcelona what you need is to strengthen your defense. Forget trying to match them in ball possession or midfield control. You won't be able to achieve that, especially with one player.. If you want to beat Barcelona then the easiest way to do it is Mourinho's way, defense and aggresiveness, and Sneijder is not known for having such qualities..

The player whom I thought performed best vs. Barca last year and who's team actually beat them in a totally different way to that you just described:

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You have to defend better of course, but you also have to do MUCH more with them ball when you have it, winning the ball is great but giving it straight back to Barca is suicide.
 
You have to defend better of course, but you also have to do MUCH more with them ball when you have it, winning the ball is great but giving it straight back to Barca is suicide.

Aye. It's amazing that people still can't see this.

Barca press, and press well, all over the pitch. If you don't have players that can keep the ball under such a pressing game, then you simply give up possession, not to see it again for a while. And trying to press them similarly produces mixed results, because they have players who can keep the ball well, play little triangles with each other and make you look foolish and ineffective.
 
If he doesn't make such a BIG difference alone, then may be we should calm down a little bit at least until he actually signs.. He is not THAT big a deal like some are trying to make him look like, our life-saver! That's the point you didn't get..

Besides, if you think that we are up for it, why then do you think we need Sneijder so desparately??

I agree with you on that point, our problems last season stemmed from being outfought away from home. We have no defensive midfielder except Carrick and he proved last year if someone gets in his face, he does not react well to it.

You are seriously under-rating Sneijder though, i myself have questioned where he will fit into our team, but there is absolutely no doubt he is among the top 5 midfielders on the planet.

My issue is that simply buying Sneijder will not solve our lack of steel in midfield, and i feel it is improvement in that area that would be of most benefit in both closing the gap on Barca and retaining the title. However if we were to sign Banega or De Rossi to play DM, then i would be more than happy to have Sneijder as our main playmaker.

Tbh i am still pretty happy at the prospect of signing him anyway but i do have a serious concern about the defensive side of the midfield. Saying that if we are going to have defensive midfield weaknesses going into next season anyway we might as well have it with a world class midfielder in our ranks!
 
I agree with you on that point, our problems last season stemmed from being outfought away from home. We have no defensive midfielder except Carrick and he proved last year if someone gets in his face, he does not react well to it.

You are seriously under-rating Sneijder though, i myself have questioned where he will fit into our team, but there is absolutely no doubt he is among the top 5 midfielders on the planet.

My issue is that simply buying Sneijder will not solve our lack of steel in midfield, and i feel it is improvement in that area that would be of most benefit in both closing the gap on Barca and retaining the title. However if we were to sign Banega or De Rossi to play DM, then i would be more than happy to have Sneijder as our main playmaker.

Tbh i am still pretty happy at the prospect of signing him anyway but i do have a serious concern about the defensive side of the midfield. Saying that if we are going to have defensive midfield weaknesses going into next season anyway we might as well have it with a world class midfielder in our ranks!

Where only after Sneijder so we will just have to see how it works. Carrick and Fletcher will always offer us protection whilst Anderson is an Ox.
 
If the best coaches in the world can't yet figure it out, then it's not really that amazing..

I'm sure they see it, they just don't have the players. We have an opportunity to buy a player that can do these exact things, the things Wilshire did so well against them.

Give last year's Arsenal our defense and attack and I think they'd have beaten Barca.
 
Now that's another thing.. If we want to improve our chances against Barcelona, then I don't really agree that Sneijder is going to do that. Sneijder could help us improve against all teams probably, except Barcelona.. Because with Barcelona what you need is to strengthen your defense. Forget trying to match them in ball possession or midfield control. You won't be able to achieve that, especially with one player.. If you want to beat Barcelona then the easiest way to do it is Mourinho's way, defense and aggresiveness, and Sneijder is not known for having such qualities..

Apart from the fact he played in Mo's team when they beat Barca. I doubt you could be any more wrong with that wall of text.

Mo's way = Sneidjer
 
What's the latest? Can't be arsed trawling.

we are this worlds fastest runner alive, but we got to beat this previously set world record of 9 seconds. but our best time is just 9.5s and it is impossible for us to run any faster. and there is these new super shoes costing 1 million. that would improve our time by 0,2 secs. and we run the distance in 9.3 secs when we buy them. Its all cool and happy at first, but latter you just think we are still the fastest runner in the world alive, but the world record is still out of reach, we just spend 1 million o f'ing shoes and it changed not that much.
 
Apart from the fact he played in Mo's team when they beat Barca. I doubt you could be any more wrong with that wall of text.

Mo's way = Sneidjer

Dont think his way is the best. He might have won against them before, but lately is method seems very ineffective.
 
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