Absolutely. A pretty big change in opinion from Lynk!
Wesley Sneijder
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Absolutely. A pretty big change in opinion from Lynk!
Basically we want him but there are a number of hurdles to the deal which will probably stop us progressing any further. Fergie says we're looking at 'some things' - hopefully by that he means we have a range of targets that we can turn to in the likely event that wages, price etc get in the way of a deal for Sneijder.
I really hope we do not sign him. He will be as big a disappointment as our last £30m+ signing.
There is a big difference between JSV and Sneijder. Sneijder comes from the Dutch school of football (they rarely fail with us), he is actually hardworking and there is Paul Scholes standing on his way.
Upps you're talking about Berba. My mistake
He is overrated. He is coming off an average season for Inter, and he will disrupt our system which has suited players like Rooney and Chicharito so well.
He is not worth the huge fee we will have to pay to acquire him.
He is not worth the huge fee we will have to pay to acquire him.
Anything else coming from your crystal ball?
This is going to deadline day.
So now Sneijder is overrated 
I guess just about anyone can play an instrumental part in a Treble and lead their team to a WC final in the same year.
I guess just about anyone can play an instrumental part in a Treble and lead their team to a WC final in the same year.
Inter were shite last season, not just Sneijder
BTW Ricky Alvarez and Sneijder are Inter's best players during this season's preseason.
Rooney is a far better player and it is nonsensical to remove Rooney from his best role to accommodate an inferior player in Sneijder.
It appears to me that people are just desperate for a big name signing without considering whether or not it is the player we really need.
It appears to me that people are just desperate for a big name signing without considering whether or not it is the player we really need.
10/11 -
serie a - 25 apps (3 as sub) - 4 goals 5 assists
champions league - 9 apps - 3 goals 2 assists
09/10 -
serie a - 26 apps (2 as sub) - 4 goals 6 assists
champions league - 11 apps - 3 goals 6 assists
average season? compared to the season before which was his best ever, not much difference..
Bought four four two the other day and in it they show the academy and youth set up at Ajax in detail from 1992 until today, its a great read plus if you really want or into that sort of thing loads of pictures of Sneijder!
Surprised he hasn't scored more goals.
Sneijder is a midfielder you dummy. Rooney isn't one.If that's the case, I hope we buy him.
Yeah, it's totally out of the question that a quality player might be capable of playing in more than one position. Just as we know that Ryan Giggs can't do anything anywhere on the pitch apart from the left flank and that Wayne Rooney would be absolutely useless as a centre-forward, it's also obvious that Sneijder just could not play in midfield unless he's given a free role in the trequartista position. Yes, that is CERTAIN.
Have I mentioned what a mistake it was to move Paul Scholes back to a deep-lying playmaker role in the latter years of his career? We wasted entire SEASONS with that move.
Do you delight in saying dumb things? Seriously?
If Fergie thinks Sneijder is the player we need, then he is wrong.
If he truly valued Sneijder, he would have signed him from Real Madrid in the summer we sold Ronaldo to them.
If he truly valued Sneijder, he would have signed him from Real Madrid in the summer we sold Ronaldo to them.
A mod might as well just remove the "More space between ears than" bit from his tagline.
I'm sick and tired of that argument.
Has it occurred to you that Fergie didn't think we needed him at that time?
Alvarez was pretty good yesterday. Played more in the Sneijder "in the hole" role while Sneijder had a more Schoes esque role in a midfield two. I was very encouraged by Sneijder's performance in that role, even if it was against poor opposition.
This
We didnt need him then as Scholes was still around.
The problem we have is finding player who can improve us and who is available at the right time and is not going for crazy money.
Also I'm not sure we'd go for Sneijder as he is 27 and it would take mega money to get him plus his wage demands are crazy. A 24 year old Sneijder maybe...
Exactly.
Some people seem to think we should sign a top player purely on the basis that they become available, as opposed to actually needing them at that moment in time.
Is Rooney actually a better player though?
I reckon that was based too much on sentimentality, considering Scholes was already at the stage he wasn't playing regularly, once every two matches or so. You can't base a team around that and I think it was an error. Not to avoid signing Sneijder in particular, but not doing anything in midfield at all.
Well you could look at it that way, but then again you could argue he would have been good enough to improve the squad but I think if we would have dealt for Sneijder, Madrid would have valued him a good bit more then the price they sold him to Inter and we just wanted the money.
I find it encouraging that SAF recognises the lack of depth and quality in midfield, and I don't think we should pay stupid moey for Sneijder, however, the part where he says...
"I could pick three or four players to come in but they wouldn't be good enough for us, so there is no point"
That's a concern. I think there are several players out there, who would be gettable who would be an improvement on our current midfield options.
If we cannot find a creative player to match Scholes influence, then a player who can at least make the midfield more robust would be a great addition. Seriously, is he going to moan about value when Banega is available for 10m, or Vidal. What about Hamsik? These are good players, better than what we have, surely.
"I could pick three or four players to come in but they wouldn't be good enough for us, so there is no point"
That's a concern. I think there are several players out there, who would be gettable who would be an improvement on our current midfield options.
If we cannot find a creative player to match Scholes influence, then a player who can at least make the midfield more robust would be a great addition. Seriously, is he going to moan about value when Banega is available for 10m, or Vidal. What about Hamsik? These are good players, better than what we have, surely.
That's unfair to Scholes - he's given tons of quality performances for United between Sneijder leaving Real and now. I think SAF was justified in showing faith with what he had back then, and I think Scholes and Giggs have more than paid him back.
You don't sell a player like Scholes up the river in his last couple of seasons by buying a player like Sneijder...
It's not a question of 'not doing anything in midfield at all' - he spoke of Carrick inheriting Scholes' place at the club when he signed, and later spoke of Anderson doing the same when he signed. He was entitled to think Anderson would have stepped up by now and that Hargreaves would have been capable of offering better service than he did.
It's not sentimentality, it's showing faith in good players and you can hardly say it failed in Giggs and Scholes' cases.
it feels like this has a decent chance of happening...
Fergie doesn't do sentimentality, that's one of the reasons why he's so successful.
He does from time to time, before snapping out of it before it's too late - see Neville's appearance v Stoke last year.
Of course he does, why do you think he brought on Scholes against Barcelona?
So did Ozil really
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