Wesley Sneijder
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Paddy Agnew spoke to a 'very senior' person at United who did not reveal anything about a potential Sneijder deal. Encouraging signs. #MUFC
So he thinks Sneijder will sign for us because someone at United wouldnt speak to him? Genius logic.
What a fecking tard.
Talksport might as well be made up of Redcafe muppets. They're always so positive we'll sign him.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
has he signed yet?
Well it was more of Talksport speculation than Twitter..
It does make sense really. I gather he didn't ring the person for a general chat, he rang him to ask about Sneijder and if they didn't say anything then it's promising signs since apparantly the skeptics are saying that SAF keeps denying it over and over which he actually hasn't. If it was false, someone would say once and for all 'No, just drop it, we aren't interested in Wesley Sneijder' including the 'top brass' this guy may or may not have spoken to.
The fact that they refused to give anything away contradicts the clubs apparant speculated stance that we don't want him.
Or something.
I like your optimism!
Proof that Twitter is populated by morons, what he actually said was that he spoke to 2 sources at Inter.
dated july 12 - in transfer time, that is like 10,000 years ago....
We're in for a long 45(?) days until the transfer window closes!
read carefully into saf's statement. no disrepect, as wily as ever.
What he said very much made me think we do want him. He didn't say he didn't want him, didn't say he doesn't suit us, that he's not the right age bracket. He left plenty of room for maneuvering which leads me to believe it's about negotiations and money, certainly not a dead deal or one that never existed.
A Summary of where we're up to July 15 2011.
United have been linked with Sneijder, on and off, pretty much since the Dutchman was born. Using sources with some credibility remaining (The Guardian, BBC, Telegraph etc. - Mainly the Guardian...Only the Guardian actually) let's take a quick look back at this one.
"Manchester United's interminable £25m approach for Wesley Sneijder. Can we just get this one over and done with?" Football transfer rumours: Wesley Sneijder to Manchester United? | Scott Murray | Football | guardian.co.uk From April earlier this year, the Guardian rumoured that we had approached Inter with an offer for Sneijder.
What's the old saying? No smoke without fire? This one has burning so long it's a wonder something hasn't burnt down - burning does keep cropping up though doesn't it? 20 foot high welcomes at Carrington and 20 foot high Ciao's in Milano burned onto the training pitches?! (Ok, don't take this seriously, fellow muppets.)
Let's go a little further back - March 2011:
"Manchester United will replace Paul Scholes, 92, with Wesley Sneijder of Internazionale, who has made one of those come-and-get-me pleas. The Dutch playmaker will smash the Old Trafford transfer record of £31m. Or will the United moneymen attempt to eke out another five seasons from Scholes instead? Hmm." Football transfer rumours: Neymar and Wesley Sneijder to England? | Scott Murray | Football | guardian.co.uk
It seems The Guardian had wind of this way back, remind you of anything else? The De Gea saga for example? You know when Sir Alex 'cools' the press off, he's basically politely informing them that we wouldn't tell them even if Wesley was in Carrington, smiling in bemused wonder at the words "WELCOME TO MUFC WESLEY" which is only visible from space.
Now, let's go back to around this time in 2010 - remember this? "Manchester United deny making approach for Wesley Sneijder" - Sir Alex said: ""I don't know where those reports about Sneijder came from. How can anybody turn me down when I haven't even made a bid?"" At this point in time it's worth mentioning we had Paul Scholes, the possibility of Owen Hargreaves returning and yet still United were linked with making a bid for Sneijder. This suggests one thing, he's been on our radar for a long time. Secondly, look at Sir Alex's semantics, he didn't make a bid, but you almost get the feeling he's saying If I did make a bid, I'd bag Sneijder. Manchester United deny making approach for Wesley Sneijder | Football | guardian.co.uk
Seems like the general consensus now is also that if we bid, we'll bag our man. Now Sir Alex hasn't flatly denied such reports, instead he's said he doesn't want to disrespect a club, or embarass an individual - he's also said he hasn't been involved with anything since he went to America. So what we can be fairly sure about is that 'anything' means 'something.'
The question is what that 'something' is, and when that 'something' will be. And sadly, I can't ask Gill personally anymore after the restraining order.
United have been linked with Sneijder, on and off, pretty much since the Dutchman was born. Using sources with some credibility remaining (The Guardian, BBC, Telegraph etc. - Mainly the Guardian...Only the Guardian actually) let's take a quick look back at this one.
"Manchester United's interminable £25m approach for Wesley Sneijder. Can we just get this one over and done with?" Football transfer rumours: Wesley Sneijder to Manchester United? | Scott Murray | Football | guardian.co.uk From April earlier this year, the Guardian rumoured that we had approached Inter with an offer for Sneijder.
What's the old saying? No smoke without fire? This one has burning so long it's a wonder something hasn't burnt down - burning does keep cropping up though doesn't it? 20 foot high welcomes at Carrington and 20 foot high Ciao's in Milano burned onto the training pitches?! (Ok, don't take this seriously, fellow muppets.)
Let's go a little further back - March 2011:
"Manchester United will replace Paul Scholes, 92, with Wesley Sneijder of Internazionale, who has made one of those come-and-get-me pleas. The Dutch playmaker will smash the Old Trafford transfer record of £31m. Or will the United moneymen attempt to eke out another five seasons from Scholes instead? Hmm." Football transfer rumours: Neymar and Wesley Sneijder to England? | Scott Murray | Football | guardian.co.uk
It seems The Guardian had wind of this way back, remind you of anything else? The De Gea saga for example? You know when Sir Alex 'cools' the press off, he's basically politely informing them that we wouldn't tell them even if Wesley was in Carrington, smiling in bemused wonder at the words "WELCOME TO MUFC WESLEY" which is only visible from space.
Now, let's go back to around this time in 2010 - remember this? "Manchester United deny making approach for Wesley Sneijder" - Sir Alex said: ""I don't know where those reports about Sneijder came from. How can anybody turn me down when I haven't even made a bid?"" At this point in time it's worth mentioning we had Paul Scholes, the possibility of Owen Hargreaves returning and yet still United were linked with making a bid for Sneijder. This suggests one thing, he's been on our radar for a long time. Secondly, look at Sir Alex's semantics, he didn't make a bid, but you almost get the feeling he's saying If I did make a bid, I'd bag Sneijder. Manchester United deny making approach for Wesley Sneijder | Football | guardian.co.uk
Seems like the general consensus now is also that if we bid, we'll bag our man. Now Sir Alex hasn't flatly denied such reports, instead he's said he doesn't want to disrespect a club, or embarass an individual - he's also said he hasn't been involved with anything since he went to America. So what we can be fairly sure about is that 'anything' means 'something.'
The question is what that 'something' is, and when that 'something' will be. And sadly, I can't ask Gill personally anymore after the restraining order.
He did say we're not in for him for a number of reasons though.
That's past idiotic.
It's not accurate either.
Availability, transfer fee, wages .... All of which, he can find out by releasing that statement. I really do think he is trying to just knock down the price.
I just don't get what is encouraging about this what so ever?
This is like the Berbatov saga all over again. Linked with the player constantly, denials from SAF, then wham....we sign him at the last minute before the window closes
Yeah, but even assuming it was the case, how did the person make that leap? It's actually worse than idiotic.
Radio: Agnew: Sneijder to Man United and Tevez to Inter Milan could happen | Radio talkSPORT
You can listen for yourself there and make your own mind up.
That depends on how you take the 'didn't reveal' part.
For all we know, the journalist could have had a long conversation with the ' top brass' and then asked 'so are you signing Sneijder then?' and he said 'Sorry mate I can't discuss that you'll have to wait and see what happens' which you can see straight through. If we weren't interested said 'top brass' would have said 'no, we don't want him.' You wouldn't be cagey unless you had something to be cagey about.
As it turns out he didn't speak to anyone at United anyway, but at Inter but the point remains if he did.
I'm not doubting you, as I said, IF it was correct that he had spoken to someone at United but that they wouldn't say anything at all, how could that be perceived as encouraging.
Also I'd rather cut my own balls off with cheese wire than listen to Talksport.
This is like the Berbatov saga all over again. Linked with the player constantly, denials from SAF, then wham....we sign him at the last minute before the window closes
If we are going to sign him, better we do it sooner rather than later and give the player chance to get to know his teammates. I don't want to see a repeat of the Berbatov fiasco where a top name comes in at the last minute carrying the weight of a huge fee and the expectations of the fans that he'll hit the ground running and deliver. I'm somewhat of the opinion that it was all the hoo-ha surrounding Berba's move that led to his spotty first season.
I'm going on what I read. If the journalist had more information he'd have revealed it.
Let me get a few things straight, Inter have said he's not for sale and they've not received any offers, Inter's manager has said Sneijder is looking forward to the season and is working hard to build a system to fit him, Sneijder's wife has said she loves Milan, Ferguson has, on a couple occasions, said we're not interested in him yet we all still think this is happening?
"There's no real interest at this moment in time in Wesley Sneijder for a lot of reasons," said Sir Alex at a press conference in Seattle.
At this moment in time. Which means things could change. The only things that could change are money related. He didn't state what reasons. If he said he's not seen as a player that suits it, that would have been it, that's not going to change. But he didn't.
I just thought it would be easier if you listened to his explanation.
I'm not sure whether you realise that's a recording.
But what we have read is that top brass wouldn't reveal anything about Wesley Sneijder when asked, not that they refused to speak to him or denied it was going to happen. Just that they had a conversation, Wesley came up and the guy wouldn't reveal what was going on either way.
What would they have to be cagey about or not reveal? If you don't give anything away it's a sign there's something there not to give anything away over. If as some people in here love to jump on has happened and the club has denied it and apparantly SAF said on the radio this morning according to Colin that we were never in for Wesley Sneijder which I've not heard or seen quoted anywhere yet, then surely said source would just say 'Nope, we don't want him.' if that's the clubs official stance.
That could all be true. But at best it's speculative and needs to assume a number of things before it works. The 'source' could just as easily be briefed to tell hacks they have nothing to say regardless of the story they want to speak about.
Which is why I don't think the natural reading of what he said is 'encouraging'.
I'm not denying your explanation. I fully accept it.But it's still a recording of Talksport, no?
It's encouraging because it's not a denial. It leaves the door open for a possibility to be a possibility whether it comes to fruition or not. The source could have been brief to say no comment, but that's encouraging because it leaves a possibility there rather than cementing it out. It's like asking your parents for something and them saying 'we will see' or 'I'll think about it' it most of the time means no, but at least it gives you a bit of hope for a while. Transfer muppets need hope.
When you hear the concrete strongly worded denial, that's the discouraging part.
It was on the sports news on Talkshite, basically the comment that has been quoted earlier in today in this thread.
This is clearly such utter bollocks, its hardly worth even quoting.
So basically, one of the directors was driving in this morning and this twat shouts out 'any news on Sneijder' and he just drives past and ignored him.
That amounts to the same thing doesn't it?
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