Wesley Sneijder

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Which is all fine and dandy, but I'm sceptical as to whether we can come up with an offer they can't refuse, in the first place.

Inter do not need money. They are filthy rich. I doubt that we would get him for less then 30m.
 
City = No Champions League, Sneijder is not like Toure or Silva, he'll put silverware, history and other football reasons first.

Chelsea = Possible after Ballack, Deco leaving, have Boswinga as a team mate.

Madrid = Can't see him going back after being ditched for Kaka, if he's got that little pride he might as well join City.

US = History, Silverware, Best manager, Van Der Sar as team mate, probably more influencial than Boswinga as VDS is well respected Dutch International.

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:rolleyes: It's getting stupider by the minute in here

It really is, isn't it?

Don't bid - We're doomed

Pay 30 mill - We overpay

Pay 20 million - We're skint and are purposely bidding low so that the offer is rejected

Just wow.

Sneijder is a great player but whether he will fit our system is something I'm not too sure about.
 
Declaring interest and making an offer are completely different.

I bet every club in the world are 'interested' in him. Means nothing.

Of course they are, but getting in contact to declare your interest is a very different thing.

Thats the first step of negotiations.

The fact that Moratti has not come out and said "there is no way we will ever sell Sneijder" is actually very promising in my opinion. He doesn't want "to look into it in case he is tempted". That sounds to me like he feels Sneijder has his price.
 
It really is, isn't it?

Don't bid - We're doomed

Pay 30 mill - We overpay

Pay 20 million - We're skint and are purposely bidding low so that the offer is rejected

Just wow.

Sneijder is a great player but whether he will fit our system is something I'm not too sure about.

He'd be a great signing, even if we paid a premium for him. A top player in the prime of his career and someone who would work well as a midfielder in a one striker setup.
 
It really is, isn't it?

Don't bid - We're doomed

Pay 30 mill - We overpay

Pay 20 million - We're skint and are purposely bidding low so that the offer is rejected

Just wow.

Sneijder is a great player but whether he will fit our system is something I'm not too sure about.

I'm trying to figure out at what point did fergie suddenly become a hate figure as well. It's worse than it was last year and this is the mains.
 
He'd be a great signing, even if we paid a premium for him. A top player in the prime of his career and someone who would work well as a midfielder in a one striker setup.

As a player, I have no doubts about his quality. He has proven to be a fantastic player. My issue here is whether he can operate in a 2 man midfield. We do play 2 strikers in 80% of our matches in the Premier League. If we were to bring him in only for the CL and those remaining 20%, it'd be a waste.

He does seem to have the skill set and the attributes to be in a 2man midfield but he really hasn't played in that position in his entire career
 
It really is, isn't it?

Don't bid - We're doomed

Pay 30 mill - We overpay

Pay 20 million - We're skint and are purposely bidding low so that the offer is rejected

Just wow.

Sneijder is a great player but whether he will fit our system is something I'm not too sure about.

No, not really. I doubt we'd get him for around £20m for example. How long as he got on his contract by the way? I bet he's just trying to improve his contract with Inter. . .
 
€30 million for a player who could become WPOTY doesn't look too steep

He has 3 years left on his contract
 
Oh hang on a second.... has Ferguson stummbled across some "Value"?
 
No, not really. I doubt we'd get him for around £20m for example. How long as he got on his contract by the way? I bet he's just trying to improve his contract with Inter. . .

3 Years.

That was my initial thoughts but in that scenario it's usually an agent that comes out and says that a club are interested.... not the man he's going to be negotiating the said contract with...
 
No, not really. I doubt we'd get him for around £20m for example. How long as he got on his contract by the way? I bet he's just trying to improve his contract with Inter. . .

He is. It was posted a couple of pages back. He has 3 years left on his contract, but he wants a pay hike and Inter are apparently going to offer him one.

And that 30 million is just an example. Its just funny how people think transfers and the process behind it is so easy as saying 'look Fergie, even a blind man can see we need a quality midfielder. Go out and splash 30 million on Sneijder.' There is no way to please some people. Especially since the window hasn't even opened yet, let alone ended.

20 million is sure to be rejected. But its how you start negotiations. Instead of being cavalier and offering 30 million
 
As a player, I have no doubts about his quality. He has proven to be a fantastic player. My issue here is whether he can operate in a 2 man midfield. We do play 2 strikers in 80% of our matches in the Premier League. If we were to bring him in only for the CL and those remaining 20%, it'd be a waste.

He does seem to have the skill set and the attributes to be in a 2man midfield but he really hasn't played in that position in his entire career

I'd be willing to bet that if we got him, that Berba's days would be numbered and we'd go to a 4-2-3-1 with Sneijder playing in the middle behind Rooney and alongside Nani and Valencia on the wings.
 
Why would Inter sell him is beyond me. This isn't happening muppets.
 
WHere did you get the "think" bit from?




Sounds to me like:

United have made an official approach but I haven't yet looked at the details in case it's too good to resist.

I'm enjoying watching him at the World Cup (and here comes the typical "he'll be here for many years to come" line....) I think he'll be at Inter for the next few years (I.E we're not letting you havehim that easily.)

from the last page(8)
Paolo_Bandini:

Inter's Moratti on Man Utd Sneijer bid: "I think it's true (that they made bid) but I didn't ask too much as I didn't want to be tempted." 13 minutes ago via web

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I also would like to see him at United, but don't think it will happen.
 
I'd be willing to bet that if we got him, that Berba's days would be numbered and we'd go to a 4-2-3-1 with Sneijder playing in the middle behind Rooney and alongside Nani and Valencia on the wings.

Even against the likes of Blackburn and Fulham at Old Trafford?
 
He's apparently been spotted in the Roadchef by Crewe on the M6. On his way for a medical before he flies back out to SA. I heard it from a sauce close to the player
 
Exclusive: Sneijder offer doc leaked

By Ed. Wed, Jul 7, 2010



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Secret documents leaked to United Rant conclusively prove Manchester United has made a bid for Inter Milan playmaker Wesley Sneijder. The Dutch international, currently at the World Cup in South Africa, is thought to be Sir Alex Ferguson’s primary transfer target this summer as the Scot aims to regain the Premier League from Chelsea.
Sneijder has proven an astute purchase since joining Inter from Real Madrid in a £12.4 million deal last summer. The former Ajax midfielder led Inter to a Serie A, Italian Cup and Champions League treble in his first season with the club. One of the players of the tournament, Sneijder has led Holland to the 2010 World Cup final, scoring four goals.
The faxed offer represents Sir Alex Ferguson’s attempt to find value in the transfer market.
 
This won't be the first of these rumors.

United always tap up a number of players to find out what the relative costs are before settling on the best value for money.

Sneijder offers great value and fills a lot of needs. He's not too old. He can fill the void in taking free kicks left by Ronaldo's departure. He fills an attacking mid void left by the decline and changed role of Scholes and the fact that Fletcher while greatly improved is not a natural goalscorer. Plus he's a winner and a gamechanger.

I'm not holding my breath, but I do think the club would be willing to pay for those attributes, especially if it takes United back up to the top again.
 
It's funny as the caftards doing the most whinging that were not after anyone are the ones who are now writing this off.
 
This won't be the first of these rumors.

United always tap up a number of players to find out what the relative costs are before settling on the best value for money.

Sneijder offers great value and fills a lot of needs. He's not too old. He can fill the void in taking free kicks left by Ronaldo's departure. He fills an attacking mid void left by the decline and changed role of Scholes and the fact that Fletcher while greatly improved is not a natural goalscorer. Plus he's a winner and a gamechanger.

I'm not holding my breath, but I do think the club would be willing to pay for those attributes, especially if it takes United back up to the top again.

we had the same needs last year, sneijder had the same quality, and he would've been even cheaper.

Fergie is known to rate a player and then want him for quite some time (berba).

There can be only two answers if our interest is genuine:

1. Fergie/our staff didn't scout him enough in years prior (which is not a good sign).

or

2. We needed the full 80 million quid to strengthen our financials for the bond issuance which occured later.

I happen to think fergie still has an eye for a player (no matter how shit berbatov is), so I think this smacks of being handcufed by the glazers again.

Now the bond issuance is taken care of, we have that 'credit facility' to use to pay 3 times the amount it would've cost to get sneijder last summer.

This kind of short term idiocy on the financial side smacks of glazer handcuffs and incompetence.
 
we had the same needs last year, sneijder had the same quality, and he would've been even cheaper.

Fergie is known to rate a player and then want him for quite some time (berba).

There can be only two answers if our interest is genuine:

1. Fergie/our staff didn't scout him enough in years prior (which is not a good sign).

or

2. We needed the full 80 million quid to strengthen our financials for the bond issuance which occured later.

I happen to think fergie still has an eye for a player (no matter how shit berbatov is), so I think this smacks of being handcufed by the glazers again.

Now the bond issuance is taken care of, we have that 'credit facility' to use to pay 3 times the amount it would've cost to get sneijder last summer.

This kind of short term idiocy on the financial side smacks of glazer handcuffs and incompetence.

Erm no we didn't, we needed a winger, nobody expected Carrick to have as bad a season as he did last year. We all thought Anderson may finally step up. Hargreaves was meant to return. It's only hindsight that has shown we need an attacking mid.
 
Erm no we didn't, we needed a winger, nobody expected Carrick to have as bad a season as he did last year. We all thought Anderson may finally step up. Hargreaves was meant to return. It's only hindsight that has shown we need an attacking mid.

Maybe for you, but I and many on here have been banging on about bringing in a quality attacking midfielder ALONG with a winger last summer (which is why so mny wanted robben/sneijder double deal in the ronnie deal).

Banking on hrgreaves, carrick, anderson was always going to fail.
 
It's amazing how details / assumptions can be twisted to make it all about the Glazers and our lack of funding.

When journalists print it - they are mocked.

Things from last season have changed. For one last season it was expected to have Hargreaves for majority of the season.

Secondly - it was no where expected that Carrick would be as off form as he was for the entire season.

Also, last season the lack of progress of Anderson may not have been anticipated. Perhaps they thought he'd have more of an impact.

There are a lot of reasons other than the whole Glazer handcuffing that may have precluded for us not going for Sneijder that seem more plausible.

Also, our scouting isn't 100% - how many players over the year suddenly just come to the fore and you wish damn - we should have gone in for him when he was cheaper or more available to us.
 
Maybe for you, but I and many on here have been banging on about bringing in a quality attacking midfielder ALONG with a winger last summer (which is why so mny wanted robben/sneijder double deal in the ronnie deal).

Banking on hrgreaves, carrick, anderson was always going to fail.

Yeah like it caused us to fail when we won the league and CL with them.
 
Maybe for you, but I and many on here have been banging on about bringing in a quality attacking midfielder ALONG with a winger last summer (which is why so mny wanted robben/sneijder double deal in the ronnie deal).

Banking on hrgreaves, carrick, anderson was always going to fail.

Well as long as you and others on here were banging on about it then yes obviously Ferguson should have purchased him last year when he had the chance regardless or not as to wether he we were actually after him.
 
Yeah like it caused us to fail when we won the league and CL with them.

that was in 2008, a year before summer 2009. when hargreaves was fit (now permacrock), when carrick wasn't mentally shattered, and anderson still hadn't shown anything.

based on a FULL season of 08/09 football, an attacking midfielder was required.
 
that was in 2008, a year before summer 2009. when hargreaves was fit (now permacrock), when carrick wasn't mentally shattered, and anderson still hadn't shown anything.

based on a FULL season of 08/09 football, an attacking midfielder was required.

What, no there wasn't we'd won the premiership, made it to back to back champions league finals and were reeling from the loss of Ronaldo. At no one point did it become clear we needed a new creative midfielder.
 
He would be great for us, but its not going to happen.

We dont have the cash to take a player like him from a team like Inter.

Wow mystic meg, nice of you to show up. Don't you think that United and SAF would know the going rate for a player like Sneijder and if so then surely they'd know if we could afford him or not before we entered a bid for him.
 
that was in 2008, a year before summer 2009. when hargreaves was fit (now permacrock), when carrick wasn't mentally shattered, and anderson still hadn't shown anything.

based on a FULL season of 08/09 football, an attacking midfielder was required.

Well like I said - there are more plausible scenario of SAF thinking those 3 players along with Scholes and Giggs (who was supposed to play as an attacking midfielder but, got shifted to the wing more due to problems with Nani not fully making the spot his own) than a case of lack of money / Glazer handcuffing.

We also ended up making our bids for Obertan/Diouf at the time which would have been close to what RM wanted, so if Sneijder was really on the radar as a player we wanted last season and money was an issue - then would have bought him instead.

Nevermind that we supposedly were bidding 25 mil+ for Tevez or Benzema.

Most likely scenario is last season that SAF didn't see the need for Sneijder and maybe from what he saw or reports were given to him didn't think he'd anything different to what we had, so didn't go for him.

So if anything mistake was on big mistake on believing Hargreaves being fit and really no blame to put in not knowing that Carrick would have a poor season or that Anderson would regress, regardless of Caftards saying they knew they would suck for us.

The whole Glazer handcuffing is really grasping for straws.
 
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