We will never win the league with Paul Pogba in the team

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

We need to start a petition against Mou. Give Pogba his safe space, impossible for him to work when he is expected to do a job for the team.

The thing is though, midfielders are different. Kante is rated as a great player and rightly so, but that is for his defensive play, he doesn't provide any crucial creativity or goals.
If we bought Pogba to be a defensive box-to-box monster, we bought the wrong player. Where he excels is in the final third.

 

[Cliche Guevara]

Are we really supposed to take the opinion of anyone who thinks we played 4-2-3-1 against Newcastle seriously?

 

[L1nk]

It feels like Mourinho has bought him and tried to mould him to what he wants rather than play to Pogba's strengths, and he keeps stubbornly doing it despite it obviously not working. If this is this case why the hell did we buy him in the first place when we could of split the money between, probably, 2 midfielders that would of fit his system better.

Spend this kind of money on this kind of player, you build the team around them it's as simple as that, sick of this square pegs in round holes crap, it happened with Kagawa, it happened with Mkhitaryan, it's happening with Pogba

 

[Cliche Guevara]

It feels like Mourinho has bought him and tried to mould him to what he wants rather than play to Pogba's strengths, and he keeps stubbornly doing it despite it obviously not working. If this is this case why the hell did we buy him in the first place when we could of split the money between, probably, 2 midfielders that would of fit his system better.

Spend this kind of money on this kind of player, you build the team around them it's as simple as that, sick of this square pegs in round holes crap, it happened with Kagawa, it happened with Mkhitaryan, it's happening with Pogba

What was Pogba not permitted to do against Newcastle that he should have done?

 

[Keeps It tidy]

What is really depressing about this thread is the confirmation of the rise of the individual. Many posters on here would rather anyone else be dropped from the team to allow a 'baby' to play with his toys, even sack the manager because he won't let this 'baby' do what he wants.
These people should stop convincing themselves they support United, the football club, the TEAM, and go away and play with their X boxes or whatever and droool over their wonderful 'baby'.

If anything I think this thread show that people expect Pogba to perform Roy of the Rovers stuff every match because of his price tag.

 

[Hitchez]

I don't think Pogba's recent form has anything to do with Jose. Ridiculous to even suggest so in my opinion. He was man of the match against Newcastle in the same midfield not too long ago. Did he just ignore Jose's instructions then?

I love Pogba and he's a phenomenally talented player but there comes a time when you have to look at him and not blame Jose for everything. The idea that everything will be rosy once Jose sticks a 3rd man in just wishful thinking.

 

[edgar allan]

But he's shown against the very best teams in the world that he can excell at a young age.

Or maybe Mourinho doesn't know how best to utilise him? Or is that me making excuses for him?

He has shown that he has the ability to show his talent previously in big games and that is the very frustrating thing. It does raise questions regarding his mentality, drive and I guess confidence also. There is also certainly a growing case for Jose to answer regarding not getting the best out of attacking players.

I don't want to overreact, all players have a run of poor games. He played fairly averagely for long spells last season but it did seem more a case of things not working out for him. He went missing in big games but at no stage did I get the sense he wasn't putting the effort in.
On Sunday he didn't look right physically or mentally so maybe something was wrong but this is more than a one off. Since he returned from suspension to me he hasn't always put the same effort and seems quick to give up when things are tough.

It is very concerning as we need Pogba to be the world class player we thought we were getting if we are to go anywhere over the next few seasons. A couple more no shows in our next 3 games and we are in trouble .

 

[tomaldinho1]

It feels like Mourinho has bought him and tried to mould him to what he wants rather than play to Pogba's strengths, and he keeps stubbornly doing it despite it obviously not working. If this is this case why the hell did we buy him in the first place when we could of split the money between, probably, 2 midfielders that would of fit his system better.

Spend this kind of money on this kind of player, you build the team around them it's as simple as that, sick of this square pegs in round holes crap, it happened with Kagawa, it happened with Mkhitaryan, it's happening with Pogba

I think it's more that he is overestimating our CM setup. Any fan can see Pogba is a truly elite player when he has time on the ball and movement around him - against better teams, especially those who press, he's often hugely ineffective, gets frustrated and has a poor game. I think Jose doesn't realize how poor (compared to our title rivals) our CM core is.

Compare us to Spurs or City (two best midfield setups in the PL IMO) are we're miles behind. KDB, Silva, Fernandinho or Demeble, Erikssen, Alli is way better all round than our Matic, Pog, Lingard/Herrera core. We need balance and we just don't have it.

 

[edgar allan]

I think it's more that he is overestimating our CM setup. Any fan can see Pogba is a truly elite player when he has time on the ball and movement around him - against better teams, especially those who press, he's often hugely ineffective, gets frustrated and has a poor game. I think Jose doesn't realize how poor (compared to our title rivals) our CM core is.

Compare us to Spurs or City (two best midfield setups in the PL IMO) are we're miles behind. KDB, Silva, Fernandinho or Demeble, Erikssen, Alli is way better all round than our Matic, Pog, Lingard/Herrera core. We need balance and we just don't have it.

You are describing the attributes of a player that should be playing for the football equivalent of the harlem globetrotters.
A man for the easy game, a Fancy Dan who excels when the game is already won.

To listen to some on here you would think that Pogba has been tasked with Matic's job, selflessly protecting the back 4.

 

[Stacks]

I think it's more that he is overestimating our CM setup. Any fan can see Pogba is a truly elite player when he has time on the ball and movement around him - against better teams, especially those who press, he's often hugely ineffective, gets frustrated and has a poor game. I think Jose doesn't realize how poor (compared to our title rivals) our CM core is.

Compare us to Spurs or City (two best midfield setups in the PL IMO) are we're miles behind. KDB, Silva, Fernandinho or Demeble, Erikssen, Alli is way better all round than our Matic, Pog, Lingard/Herrera core. We need balance and we just don't have it.

Matic has been part of 2 title winning midfields. He partnered Kante to a league title just last year and Cesc also. That's a bit rich to be honest. shouldn't it be DIER/Dembele/Alli as Eriksen plays wide?

 

[TheReligion]

Players have spells of form you know..

Just a thought

 

[tomaldinho1]

You are describing the attributes of a player that should be playing for the football equivalent of the harlem globetrotters.
A man for the easy game, a Fancy Dan who excels when the game is already won.

To listen to some on here you would think that Pogba has been tasked with Matic's job, selflessly protecting the back 4.

No I'm saying he needs players around him that can allow him space. Look at the game vs Spurs - they swamped the central midfield + were all over him. He never got the ball in space, never was allowed to turn and had a rotter of a game.

Players know he can hurt them with his passing range and speed on the ball so the good teams just shut him down because he is our only outlet. They aren't massively worried about letting Matic have time, not that he's a bad passer but he's hardly a creative force/dynamic player + our other midfielder is always changing but again isn't someone who will worry teams. It's about balance and we are too skewed toward defense with our CM core IMO.

 

[AlwaysRed66]

People keep going on about him being great for Juventus, but don't mention that the football is completely different in Serie A. They play a more slow build up play & have more time on the ball, which Pogba enjoys, but in the premiership it is far more quicker with players pressing, & makes it more difficult. More so against the better teams. He has also been indulged far too much by the manager & fans, such as on these boards, but recent actions & words seem to suggest both maybe taking a harder line.

 

[crazylegz]

whilst it's easy to point the finger at mourinho's use of pogba, there is no excuse for his lack of fight to win the ball just before newcastle scored, I fear our club has got into a mentality of allowing players to become bigger than club and they end up not trying as hard when the going get's tough.

 

[edgar allan]

No I'm saying he needs players around him that can allow him space. Look at the game vs Spurs - they swamped the central midfield + were all over him. He never got the ball in space, never was allowed to turn and had a rotter of a game.

Players know he can hurt them with his passing range and speed on the ball so the good teams just shut him down because he is our only outlet. They aren't massively worried about letting Matic have time, not that he's a bad passer but he's hardly a creative force/dynamic player + our other midfielder is always changing but again isn't someone who will worry teams. It's about balance and we are too skewed toward defense with our CM core IMO.

Well all players look better with good players around them, tbf Matic isn't exactly like playing John O'Shea in midfield.

If he needs lots space to perform then I would suggest he is in the wrong league. He plays much better in our home games where teams come and sit back and give him more space and time. I had hoped that the introduction of Sanchez would take some of the pressure of him....still hoping.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Well all players look better with good players around them, tbf Matic isn't exactly like playing John O'Shea in midfield.

If he needs lots space to perform then I would suggest he is in the wrong league. He plays much better in our home games where teams come and sit back and give him more space and time. I had hoped that the introduction of Sanchez would take some of the pressure of him....still hoping.

I'm not digging out Matic FYI if you've taken it that way (not sure re the John O'Shea reference as I rate Matic). I do think our CM area is a massive weakness though.

The bolded part is probably a big factor, maybe that's he biggest difference between the PL and other Continental leagues, the lack of time on the ball. I'm now a big believer in Pogba playing as more of a 10 and getting a dynamic midfielder in behind him who can take the ball in tight situations and is good enough on the ball to draw some pressure off Pogba. A Matic/Koke base with Pogba in front would be very strong IMO for example.

 

[Bobski]

No I'm saying he needs players around him that can allow him space. Look at the game vs Spurs - they swamped the central midfield + were all over him. He never got the ball in space, never was allowed to turn and had a rotter of a game.

Players know he can hurt them with his passing range and speed on the ball so the good teams just shut him down because he is our only outlet. They aren't massively worried about letting Matic have time, not that he's a bad passer but he's hardly a creative force/dynamic player + our other midfielder is always changing but again isn't someone who will worry teams. It's about balance and we are too skewed toward defense with our CM core IMO.

What if the opposition specifically plan for him to not have space, man mark him and take him out of the game. Do we send in a protest to the FA?

 

[MuranoLover]

I don't know how many times I've written it , but I will gift the creator of the thread with a litre of Blue Label

 

[Adnan]

People keep going on about him being great for Juventus, but don't mention that the football is completely different in Serie A. They play a more slow build up play & have more time on the ball, which Pogba enjoys, but in the premiership it is far more quicker with players pressing, & makes it more difficult. More so against the better teams. He has also been indulged far too much by the manager & fans, such as on these boards, but recent actions & words seem to suggest both maybe taking a harder line.

Should we dismiss his performances against Bayern, Madrid etc too because it wasn't against Chris Brunt etc?

 

[breakout67]

Should we dismiss his performances against Bayern, Madrid etc too because it wasn't against Chris Brunt etc?

How can anyone say that Pogba isn't suited to the premiere league; he is a physical monster both in stature and stamina.

When it comes to the qualities of Pogba, he has it all. The only problem is that his decision making is still inconsistent. One game he can always find the right pass, another game he will hold on to the ball for too long.

 

[Zlatan 7]

Should we dismiss his performances against Bayern, Madrid etc too because it wasn't against Chris Brunt etc?

I agree with you that he’s had big performances but again, those Bayern and Madrid games you mention are champions league, that’s a different pace to the prem, slower and more ‘European’

 

[Adnan]

I agree with you that he’s had big performances but again, those Bayern and Madrid games you mention are champions league, that’s a different pace to the prem, slower and more ‘European’

I think that Bayern tie was pretty fast paced and Pogba like @giorno mentioned in his post stood up and delivered a performance making Javi Martinez not look very good.

 

[Revaulx]

How can anyone say that Pogba isn't suited to the premiere league; he is a physical monster both in stature and stamina.

Is he though?

One if the things I find most maddening about him is the way he’ll do something brilliant, then stop for a rest (or to bask in his own glory, if one was being harsh) before picking up speed again. I’ve not seen this great stamina on display even in games where he’s been good.

 

[Cliche Guevara]

Matic has been part of 2 title winning midfields. He partnered Kante to a league title just last year and Cesc also. That's a bit rich to be honest. shouldn't it be DIER/Dembele/Alli as Eriksen plays wide?

Yeah it should. I was going to post the same earlier. Some of the selective reasoning on here has been unbelievably poor on here recently.

 

[diplomat]

Is he though?

One if the things I find most maddening about him is the way he’ll do something brilliant, then stop for a rest (or to bask in his own glory, if one was being harsh) before picking up speed again. I’ve not seen this great stamina on display even in games where he’s been good.

What's more damning is our squad is last placed on distance covered from the whole Premier league, yet Pogba stands out as having either low stamina and fintess levels or just being downright lazy compared to the rest of the team.

Yeah it should. I was going to post the same earlier. Some of the selective reasoning on here has been unbelievably poor on here recently.

Matic is also currently in the top 5 players in the league for most kilometers in total so he is doing more than he should for covering the whole midfield and it is affecting his performances. I don't understand how Mourinho is making the same mistake with him for the second time in a row, just like at Chelsea, where he burned out.

 

[glazed]

Unless he cut short his warm up because he's lazy, which would be bizarre, he's injured in some way.

 

[MackRobinson]

It's not a nonsense though is it? It is not a "baseless accusation"...this version of Pogba at Juventus, in this magical lazy left midfield position where he had no positional responsibility or onus on him to play in order to help his team, has only come into existence on redcafe, since it became necessary to invent excuses for why Pogba can't put a shift in for us in midfield.

Yet we've already heard from people in this thread who have rubbished that by saying that when Pogba played well for Juventus, he in fact DID have to put a shift in defensively and by showing defensive and positional discipline. In other words, he had to do what he doesn't very often do for us.

People have invented a role that never existed in order to claim the reason Pogba goes missing or can't act like a professional footballer in games, is because we aren't playing him in it. Somehow Pogba's lack of ability to stay in a position, or show any responsibility for his team or team mates, isn't his fault. It's everyone else's fault. It's because we don't have the same players as Juventus, and because we don't play him in exactly the same role as he played at Juventus. A role that actually, based on any even slightly realistic viewpoint, would still require him to do the things he doesn't bother doing for us anyway, if it was going to work.

The reason I'm calling it up as nonsense is because it is nonsense. It comes from the land of fantasy.

If we got to the end of the game against Spurs for example, and lost, but Pogba had put in a good performance in the role he had been given, then you could argue "well he isn't being played to his strengths"...or even if he'd been the worst player on the pitch, but worked hard and TRIED to put in a performance to help the team, you could still make this argument...but that isn't what happens is it? What happens is he has to be subbed off because he is deliberately not helping his team and then even when the manager specifically tells him to, he doesn't listen. At this point his performance becomes indefensible to any reasonable person. He becomes one of the reason why the team is losing the game, because he isn't prepared to help the team.

Now you are just shifting goalposts. You insinuated that Pogba wasn't that good at Juve or for France, and that is what I'm calling utter nonsense. I never said he didn't put in a shift a Juve or for France. Again this is a straw man that doesn't apply to what we are discussing. The main point is Pogba has performed at an elite level in a midfield 3. I don't understand how this is even debatable.

So we are reinventing the wheel again here. By this logic you can't put any good player in a team of players they are better than, because they wont play like a good player anymore. In which case, how is there even such a thing as good players, when they are apparently all completely reliant on playing with other good players in order to actually be good?

Bale and Modric were clearly better than their team mates. Ronaldo was clearly better than his team mates for us. Scholes was clearly better than Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson, John O'fecking Shea...whoever you put next to him. Cante was one of the best players in the league playing alongside Danny Drinkwater...and then again playing alongside Matic.

How many actual great players are there, who play with the lack of responsibility and professionalism that Paul Pogba does? There's been plenty of extremely talented players who have...and Pogba is certainly very talented. The ones that end up actually being world class, get there, because they have the mentality of a world class player. Not because they danced in a video with Stormzy once and have a racing stripe in their hair, but then go missing as soon as some hard work or sacrifice is required in a game.

In an earlier post, I said you need great players AND the correct tactics. Manchester United are lacking in both. The signing of Sanchez was a good start, but I will bet a large sum of money if Manchester United add another quality midfielder AND play Pogba in a midfield 3 you will see a dramatic uptick in form.

Before Sanchez came, did you really think Pogba wasn't clearly the best player on Manchester United? Midfielder? You honestly think Matic and Herrera are on his level? I'm not buying that.

I honestly think you are too hung up on his off-field persona. The dancing and hairstyles aren't really as big of an issue as you are making them out to be.

I'm not pretending anything of the sort. There's the odd good performance this season, but it's exactly that, and it's always against teams like Everton, who a few weeks later are 4-0 down after 30 minutes to the 6th place team.

Pogba has had one good run of form for us, which was in the build up to Christmas last season...and the thing that makes this whole argument so silly, beyond anything else, is that during this spell, he mostly played in a midfield two...and it coincided with him actually working hard, and showing the kind of discipline and responsibility he so often lacks. So he proved then that actually, he CAN do it, IF he is prepared to put the work in and make the sacrifice. The world where he becomes a world class player without doing this is the same one where Arsenal win the Champions League without changing their style of play.

This complete undervaluing what he means to Manchester United, especially from a creative perspective. Do you not remember how posters on this very board were moaning about the lack of creativity when he was injured or am I imagining this? Did he not completely boss Arsenal?

Yes, he isn't absolved from all responsibility. I don't think I or anyone else is saying that. What I am saying is to ask him to CONSISTENTLY be the midfield engine, control the tempo, AND be the creative spark in a role that doesn't play to his strengths is asking a lot. The notion that he should just get on with and dominate games regardless of the manager's tactics is a foolish line of thinking. Players have strengths and weaknesses and it's up to the manager to get the best out of them. This applies to literally every player in the world (sans maybe Messi). Again we have seen Pogba play well for Juventus and France in a different tactical setup. This cannot be disputed and anything on the contrary is pure stubbornness. Given that, why is it that crazy to want the manager to adapt to this setup to get the best out of the most talented player on the team?

 

[Bwuk]

I think Pogba is one of the most talented players in the league. But he can’t play as a holding midfielder.

It just screams of England persisting to put Lampard and Gerrard, two world class players into a position they couldn’t play together.

If we had someone like a Eric Dier next to Matic and provided a solid base for Pogba to push forward and do his thing I don’t think we’d have this thread.

 

[breakout67]

Is he though?

One if the things I find most maddening about him is the way he’ll do something brilliant, then stop for a rest (or to bask in his own glory, if one was being harsh) before picking up speed again. I’ve not seen this great stamina on display even in games where he’s been good.

That's his playstyle, he is a flair player.

Pogba regularly out sprints players over long distances; and many of those sprints come at the end of the game when the game is open.

Mourinho said himself that Pogba is physically complete; he has no shortcomings in that area.

 

[tomaldinho1]

What if the opposition specifically plan for him to not have space, man mark him and take him out of the game. Do we send in a protest to the FA?

You've completely missed my point. I want us to sign another CM to take pressure/focus off him. We can write to the FA but it'll do F.A.....see what I did there?

Current Situation: Teams can swamp Pogba relatively easily because he is our only outlet other than a long ball over the top, which 99% of the time never works. Against all the pressing teams he's been smothered and has had zero influence. FYI This isn't a criticism against Matic as I believe you need one dedicated DM in the team and these guys tend to be less technical/creative (Fernandinho, Matic, Kante, Romeu type players). We need someone else who can come in and give opposition players more problems - at the moment it's easy to shut us in if we start a counter: Close down Pogba & Martial and be ready for us to hoof it up to Lukaku. I'm hoping Sanchez gives another option but it'll take a bit of time.

 

[Bobski]

You've completely missed my point. I want us to sign another CM to take pressure/focus off him. We can write to the FA but it'll do F.A.....see what I did there?

Current Situation: Teams can swamp Pogba relatively easily because he is our only outlet other than a long ball over the top, which 99% of the time never works. Against all the pressing teams he's been smothered and has had zero influence. FYI This isn't a criticism against Matic as I believe you need one dedicated DM in the team and these guys tend to be less technical/creative (Fernandinho, Matic, Kante, Romeu type players). We need someone else who can come in and give opposition players more problems - at the moment it's easy to shut us in if we start a counter: Close down Pogba & Martial and be ready for us to hoof it up to Lukaku. I'm hoping Sanchez gives another option but it'll take a bit of time.

I didn't miss your point, i just don't agree with it. Pogba's style of play invites pressure from teams who press hard, instead of moving the ball quickly he looks to hold it, he makes himself a target.

 

[VeevaVee]

Players have spells of form you know..

Just a thought

The problem with ours is they tend to be pretty short with the good spells, whereas some teams will have important players hitting form for a large chunk of the season. Does seem Pogba was affected by his injury unfortunately.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

If anything I think this thread show that people expect Pogba to perform Roy of the Rovers stuff every match because of his price tag.

Sure they do. Maybe he can first match the performance levels of his team mates. It would be a good start.

 

[Stacks]

I think Pogba is one of the most talented players in the league. But he can’t play as a holding midfielder.

It just screams of England persisting to put Lampard and Gerrard, two world class players into a position they couldn’t play together.

If we had someone like a Eric Dier next to Matic and provided a solid base for Pogba to push forward and do his thing I don’t think we’d have this thread.

Nothing would change. teams would simply allow Dier and Matic (2 slow movers, slow passers with little skill) and swamp Pogba. It may even be worse with no number 10 outlet.

You've completely missed my point. I want us to sign another CM to take pressure/focus off him. We can write to the FA but it'll do F.A.....see what I did there?

Current Situation: Teams can swamp Pogba relatively easily because he is our only outlet other than a long ball over the top, which 99% of the time never works. Against all the pressing teams he's been smothered and has had zero influence. FYI This isn't a criticism against Matic as I believe you need one dedicated DM in the team and these guys tend to be less technical/creative (Fernandinho, Matic, Kante, Romeu type players). We need someone else who can come in and give opposition players more problems - at the moment it's easy to shut us in if we start a counter: Close down Pogba & Martial and be ready for us to hoof it up to Lukaku. I'm hoping Sanchez gives another option but it'll take a bit of time.

Bingo. That's what Juve had. Both Pirlo and Vidal need to be stopped for different reasons. Vidal with his bullet shot, Pirlo with his vision and passing. Naingollan would be a shout if he stopped smoking and being an ass (he can run with it and shoot), Vidal too, basically a Roy Keane type, someone who is great on and off the ball and makes Pogba's life super super easy. Pjanic is one I have always liked although he is different style.

 

[tomaldinho1]

I didn't miss your point, i just don't agree with it. Pogba's style of play invites pressure from teams who press hard, instead of moving the ball quickly he looks to hold it, he makes himself a target.

You can't disagree with a point when you don't understand it. Not in a provocative way but you still haven't understood what I'm saying. The poster above gets it.

EDIT: to be clear, this isn't about Pogba or his style of play. He could be Lionel Messi with the ball and my point about him being the sole outlet would remain the same. If you want to change subject on to if he holds the ball too much, that's cool but it's irrelevant to what I'm saying.

 

[Bobski]

You can't disagree with a point when you don't understand it. Not in a provocative way but you still haven't understood what I'm saying. The poster above gets it.

EDIT: to be clear, this isn't about Pogba or his style of play. He could be Lionel Messi with the ball and my point about him being the sole outlet would remain the same. If you want to change subject on to if he holds the ball too much, that's cool but it's irrelevant to what I'm saying.

No, I do understand your point, it is hardly difficult, again I just don't agree with it.

 

[Synco]

Sure they do. Maybe he can first match the performance levels of his team mates. It would be a good start.

So you'd say Pogba has not yet matched the performance level of his teammates since he joined United? Dragging the average level of the team down?

 

[Manny]

If anything I think this thread show that people expect Pogba to perform Roy of the Rovers stuff every match because of his price tag.

No worse. They want a Scott fecking Parker!

 

[AlwaysRed66]

No worse. They want a Scott fecking Parker!

No they want a so called world class player to actually take the scruff of a game, particularly important ones, & impose himself on it as a world class player does. Not prance around the pitch.

The man of the match in the Newcastle game was Shelvy (let that sink in), though personally I would have given it to the impressive Newcastle keeper. Shelvy took the match by the scruff of the neck & controlled the midfield, seemingly being everywhere. Our hero in comparison was wandering around the pitch looking lost & sulking, as seemingly he wasn't allowed to play in his preferred position. Even the manager seems to be fed up & yanked him off for the 2nd time in three matches, with the other dropped from the starting line up, which is very unusual for Mourinho, as he never takes off/or drops his main players unless a very good reason. Perhaps he has had enough.

I have always liked Shelvy, & always remember when he was sent off when playing for Liverpool against us. He had sort of words with SAF, who seemed to like him. Now Shelvy is limited in what he can do, but normally does this very well, & is a good player to have for a mid ranking club. People go on all the times on these boards criticising Mourinho for picking the likes of Jones, Smalling, Young, Valencia, Lindgard etc, & yes they may not be top notch, but what they do for the most part is play to their potential abilities. Contrast this with the likes of Pogba, Rashford & Martial, beloved on these forums, but on average are way short of what they are capable off, & who are given excuses all the time. The only top player who plays any where near his potential, Sanchez has just arrived, is DDG.

If someone had been locked up all their lives, without contact with the outside world, & were then introduced to football, explaining the rules, They were told one side had world class player in midfield & the other an average one, they would have presumed they were talking about Shelvy & note the other one called Pogba just wandered around looking lost & bored.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So you'd say Pogba has not yet matched the performance level of his teammates since he joined United? Dragging the average level of the team down?

Since he joined? No, not at all. On Sunday, absolutely.