We are an awfully coached team

This thread should be locked during the games like the player performances forum. How can every stray pass or every opposition break be used to reinforced our perceived lack of coaching?
 
thesheriffjw said:
How can a team that play with 2 holding midfielders (mcfred) be so exposed???

Everton have walked through, 3 or 4 times already.!!

Something is very wrong
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Because we’re not playing ‘holding midfielders’. We’re playing Fred and McTominay, both of whom have no idea where to position themselves defensively.

McTominay, in particular, is no more of a holding midfielder than Pogba. His best work takes place around the penalty area.

Matic is our only holding midfielder and he’s more or less finished.
 
Ole's screen said:
This thread should be locked during the games like the player performances forum. How can every stray pass or every opposition break be used to reinforced our perceived lack of coaching?
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Because they want 90% possession football.
 
Love the one touch quick passing football. We are good when we play high tempo football.
 
Ole's screen said:
This thread should be locked during the games like the player performances forum. How can every stray pass or every opposition break be used to reinforced our perceived lack of coaching?
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Because it’s nothing to do with players, it’s a nonstop agenda that invades almost every feckjng thread. And the mods need to start thread banning people and let them have their little Miserable Club in one thread… then I can put it on ignore and start to enjoy coming on here and having a balanced chat about the club I love.

There’s more shit on here about Ole than RAWK and Blue Moon put together
 
thesheriffjw said:
How can a team that play with 2 holding midfielders (mcfred) be so exposed???

Everton have walked through, 3 or 4 times already.!!

Something is very wrong
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This has been a weird problem with United for years. We seem to lack players in attack and defence. its bizarre.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Because it’s nothing to do with players, it’s a nonstop agenda that invades almost every feckjng thread. And the mods need to start thread banning people and let them have their little Miserable Club in one thread… then I can put it on ignore and start to enjoy coming on here and having a balanced chat about the club I love.

There’s more shit on here about Ole than RAWK and Blue Moon put together
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Nail hit on the head.
 
Ole's screen said:
This thread should be locked during the games like the player performances forum. How can every stray pass or every opposition break be used to reinforced our perceived lack of coaching?
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Because it specifically relates to the coaching.

Thats why a team train all week. To learn tactics, movement, team shape.

These are the basics and a PL club, you expect better from
 
thesheriffjw said:
How can a team that play with 2 holding midfielders (mcfred) be so exposed???

Everton have walked through, 3 or 4 times already.!!

Something is very wrong
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Because they’re not holding midfielders but you don’t care if they are or aren’t. It’s just another bash Ole post as your recent history shows… including your “what the feck Ole, Martial?!” comment pre game.
 
Better than last game but that goes down the lack of pressing from Everton in the first half. Lets see
 
Mctominay runs from midfield into the box are helping a lot. I was watching our game against Arsenal in 09/10 where Carrick, Scholes, and Fletcher started in midfield. For most of our attacks at least two of them (usually Scholes and Fletch) would get into the box. I guess Bruno is the Scholes equivalent but what we really lack is someone like Carrick.

It's one thing we lose when we play Pogba in a 2, Mctominay doesn't get forward as much and the box is quite empty.
 
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Fred, and I say this as someone fond of him, hasn't been good enough this season.

It's odd that we've not given van de Beek a run out at CM in place of Fred.

McTominay has seemed to take a step back too.
 
Every match is a humongous struggle when we should be putting teams to the sword at home. The general play has been better today but we're still lacking that ruthless winning mentality title winners need to have and we're still carrying passengers.
 
Shark said:
Every match is a humongous struggle when we should be putting teams to the sword at home. The general play has been better today but we're still lacking that ruthless winning mentality title winners need to have and we're still carrying passengers.
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At least this game is enjoyable. Against the likes of Young Boys and Villareal it was painful to watch
 
What grinds me is that you can never really say we outplay any team in our recent wins. We are reliant on magic moments and everything seems to be struggle
 
Shark said:
Every match is a humongous struggle when we should be putting teams to the sword at home. The general play has been better today but we're still lacking that ruthless winning mentality title winners need to have and we're still carrying passengers.
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Think it's less about mentality and more about organisation. Other teams aren't in the right positions (or consistently committing tactical fouls) to stop these counter attacks by accident, or on their own initiative.
 
Even if we get a winner there’s no chance this side is competing for the title.
 
sullydnl said:
Think it's less about mentality and more about organisation. Other teams aren't in the right positions (or consistently committing tactical fouls) to stop these counter attacks by accident, or on their own initiative.
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Its all about pace, power and desire
 
Jackal981 said:
What grinds me is that you can never really say we outplay any team in our recent wins. We are reliant on magic moments and everything seems to be struggle
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That's literally the story of Oles management time here.

He's one of the worst managers in the league.
 
We are so easy to play against. Unbelievable. Naive is a right word to describe our play.
 
It's been predictable for about 2 years now and nothing has changed. Play against a team with a decent shape that's hard to break down and we look all over the place. Hold the ball a lot, move it too slow look very shaky on the counter. But I guess it's all Freds fault.
 
I have already lost interest in the season. Have absolutely no stomach for another top four battle.
 
Another game another shitty performance, Ole's at the wheel lads. PASSION, UNITED DNA, etc
 
Even leaving aside coaching specifics, on a fundamental level Ole hasn't been able to address our major problem from last season, which is repeatedly putting ourselves in positions where we have to make comebacks to win. You can't expect to win major trophies if you keep having to get wins in the hardest possible way.
 
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