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...he's fighting nature and it must be fecking hard work to motivate yourself when you're fighting a losing battle.

Nature?
Buddy, you may be very young, but I can tell you that at 31 years, a man is close to his physical peak. I tend to believe that a man's peak occurs at around 32/33.
I am now 42 years of age and since age 18 have been heavily involved in fitness activities. I would say that my physical peak occurred age 33-34.
Valencia just won the POTY award (with Herrera). How old is Valencia? 31.
And lets no forget Ronaldo, who has just had one of his best seasons and will probably win the Ball on d'or again. Age 32.
And how can we forget the 35 year old Ibra, who has scored as many goals as the rest of our attackers put together.

I would say that Nature is actually pushing Rooney up, not down (as you suggest) and at 30 years of age, Rooney should be in the best form of his life, commanding a transfer fee of £100M+ if sold/bought.
 
My brother tattooed Phil Jones before the Europa League final. Spoke to him today and he said he told him De Gea and Rooney are definitely gone. The latter to China. Whether DDG has changed his mind since our CL qualification I'm not sure.

He tattoes him again this week, so will hopefully find out a bit more. I may even go in and speak to him :lol:
 
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Looking good, Wayne.
 
Nature?
Buddy, you may be very young, but I can tell you that at 31 years, a man is close to his physical peak. I tend to believe that a man's peak occurs at around 32/33.
I am now 42 years of age and since age 18 have been heavily involved in fitness activities. I would say that my physical peak occurred age 33-34.
Valencia just won the POTY award (with Herrera). How old is Valencia? 31.
And lets no forget Ronaldo, who has just had one of his best seasons and will probably win the Ball on d'or again. Age 32.
And how can we forget the 35 year old Ibra, who has scored as many goals as the rest of our attackers put together.

I would say that Nature is actually pushing Rooney up, not down (as you suggest) and at 30 years of age, Rooney should be in the best form of his life, commanding a transfer fee of £100M+ if sold/bought.

Speaking only about the physical aspect then 99% of all footballers will decline after reaching 30 years of age, I don't think you could argue that. There's simply no way the average footballer is in better physical shape at 31 than he is at 26 if the training program is kept the same. I'd say the most noticeable part for a footballer is that you become slower and it takes longer for your body to recover as you get older. Ronaldo, Ibra and Valencia might have had amazing/good seasons but that says more about them as footballers than it does about them reaching some kind of physical peak.

As for Rooney, he really has no excuse in any case anyway, but I strongly disagree that nature is helping him at the moment.
 
Legend/Monster utd player/utd Warrior - whether legend like Keane or Scholes or simply a utd monster like Hughes or Ruud then same rules apply. There's a right and wrong way to leave the club where a player can either taint their legacy with greed or can go with dignity and respect.

Agree there's a right and a wrong way. I wouldn't begrudge him staying if he took a 50% pay cut but really I'd like him to go, since he offers nothing.
 
Rooney solution identified!

United should buy an MLS side...sell rooney to it....buy a casino in vegas also.....Rooneys retirement plan can then be 1 season in MLS followed by Elvis style vegas decline into catsuits, burgers and deep fried peanut butter sandwiches.

The total cost of this plan will be less than him sitting around old trafford in custom fit team suits as his lifestyle overtakes him.
 
Rooney won't even make the bench next season. He should do the right thing and graciously move on.
 
My brother tattooed Phil Jones before the Europa League final. Spoke to him today and he said he told him De Gea and Rooney are definitely gone. The latter to China. Whether DDG has changed his mind since our CL qualification I'm not sure.

He tattoes him again this week, so will hopefully find out a bit more. I may even go in and speak to him :lol:

That's one of the best ITK stories ever. :lol::lol::wenger::annoyed:
 
I'm glad Rooney gets more respect at OT, than he does on here.

That's strange, most people I speak to don't want Rooney anywhere near the team. Only the happy clappers generally do. But maybe the people I speak to don't possess the same elitist attitude as you.
 
I'm glad Rooney gets more respect at OT, than he does on here.


I agree most of the people on here would probably would treat Sir Bobby with the same respect as Rooney if he played in modern times.Especially if he was still around the first team when coming to the end of his career.
 
My brother tattooed Phil Jones before the Europa League final. Spoke to him today and he said he told him De Gea and Rooney are definitely gone. The latter to China. Whether DDG has changed his mind since our CL qualification I'm not sure.

Are you saying that your brother has a tattoo of P.Jones on his body?
If so, is your brother having conversations with a tattoo?
 
He looked horrendously unfit and out of shape in Carrick's testimonial and that was 1 week after the season finished! Feck knows what he'll be like by the end of the summer!

I know he probably hasn't helped himself but I feel a bit for the guy, he's fighting nature and it must be fecking hard work to motivate yourself when you're fighting a losing battle. The stupid thing is it was pretty obvious that he would suffer a rapid decline due to his physical make-up and the amount of miles on the clock but Ed and David saw fit to give him a massive contract...idiocy.
he's captain of Manchester United, gets 300k a week and viscious rumours going round he likes a pint. He works with the best coaches/nutritonists available, if he wanted to stay in peak condition he could do.
 
I hope we manage to somehow ship him off. 250k+ a week is a very expensive prop to have on the bench.
 
If Rooney does decide to stay, I reckon Mourinho will move the captaincy onto someone else. Something along the lines of needing a captain on the field.
 
Every time I see this thread bumped I get so hopeful that he's finally gone then I come in and it's never the sweet news I'm waiting to hear
 
He's completely finished at this level, and probably several levels lower too, and he's only going to get worse.

Managing to offload him will be really difficult but whatever happens he shouldn't play for Utd again. If he decides to stay he can spend a year in the stands.
 
Nature?
Buddy, you may be very young, but I can tell you that at 31 years, a man is close to his physical peak. I tend to believe that a man's peak occurs at around 32/33.
I am now 42 years of age and since age 18 have been heavily involved in fitness activities. I would say that my physical peak occurred age 33-34.
Valencia just won the POTY award (with Herrera). How old is Valencia? 31.
And lets no forget Ronaldo, who has just had one of his best seasons and will probably win the Ball on d'or again. Age 32.
And how can we forget the 35 year old Ibra, who has scored as many goals as the rest of our attackers put together.

I would say that Nature is actually pushing Rooney up, not down (as you suggest) and at 30 years of age, Rooney should be in the best form of his life, commanding a transfer fee of £100M+ if sold/bought.

Sorry for off topic but I disagree about the physical peak age being 33

If that was the case then I don't see why Cristiano Ronaldo has had to change his game at around age 31 to do less dribbles and play in the box more than the wing.

Jermaine Defoe's pace has decreased over time, and he is 34.

It is only credit to Ronaldo that he has maintained electric pace at age 31, as well as strength. Arjen Robben is still rapid too. But that is because these players have physical regimes that allow them to maintain their pace levels, specifically designed for this.

Most players in the world won't maintain their same fitness or pace level at 33 that they have at 28, it's just a fact. Otherwise Rooney and RVP would still run the English Premier League.
 
Nature?
Buddy, you may be very young, but I can tell you that at 31 years, a man is close to his physical peak. I tend to believe that a man's peak occurs at around 32/33.
I am now 42 years of age and since age 18 have been heavily involved in fitness activities. I would say that my physical peak occurred age 33-34.
Valencia just won the POTY award (with Herrera). How old is Valencia? 31.
And lets no forget Ronaldo, who has just had one of his best seasons and will probably win the Ball on d'or again. Age 32.
And how can we forget the 35 year old Ibra, who has scored as many goals as the rest of our attackers put together.

I would say that Nature is actually pushing Rooney up, not down (as you suggest) and at 30 years of age, Rooney should be in the best form of his life, commanding a transfer fee of £100M+ if sold/bought.

The guys you are talking about are natural athletes, yes they take excellent care of themselves, and there's no doubt Rooney could/should have done more of that, but you only have to look at his parents to see that he does not have good genes when it comes to his natural physicality. Footballers that get better when they get past 30 (physically - i.e. Faster, stronger etc) are in the extreme minority and Rooney doesn't have a naturally slim frame to rely on (unlike Giggsy for instance). That is not absolving him of blame, but everyone is different - you could feed 2 guys exactly the same diet, and give them the same training regime, but they won't output the same in terms of performance because their bodies are different.

he's captain of Manchester United, gets 300k a week and viscious rumours going round he likes a pint. He works with the best coaches/nutritonists available, if he wanted to stay in peak condition he could do.

See above
 
There's no set age for reaching your physical peak. Rooney has played 569 matches at the highest level. Hardly anyone is history can say the same. The fact he's declining shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
 
you could feed 2 guys exactly the same diet, and give them the same training regime, but they won't output the same in terms of performance because their bodies are different.
Why the same training regime, the unnatural one should work more harder and specially work on abs tremendously to reach and stay on a higher level.
 
There's no set age for reaching your physical peak. Rooney has played 569 matches at the highest level. Hardly anyone is history can say the same. The fact he's declining shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
It also shouldn't come as a surprise because Rooney is well known for not focusing on his fitness.
 
There's no set age for reaching your physical peak. Rooney has played 569 matches at the highest level. Hardly anyone is history can say the same. The fact he's declining shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Seedorf played 875 matches, Giggs over 900, and they both still looked better than Rooney when they played together last week.
 
Seedorf played 875 matches, Giggs over 900, and they both still looked better than Rooney when they played together last week.
2 out of millions. Their fitness is too their credit, not to Rooney's discredit. Seedorf and Giggs are incredible physical specimens and rarities in the game.

Mourinho has access to much better fitness metrics than a bunch of idiots on the internet who read what they want from photos. If Rooney's level had dropped as low as Shaw's or Schweinsteiger's, he'd have been completely frozen out.
 
There's no set age for reaching your physical peak. Rooney has played 569 matches at the highest level. Hardly anyone is history can say the same. The fact he's declining shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

And add his injuries and rushing back from them as well. Didn't he once play when he couldn't even plant one of his feet properly whenever he ran?

Some random dude on the caf comparing with himself :lol::lol:
 
There's no set age for reaching your physical peak. Rooney has played 569 matches at the highest level. Hardly anyone is history can say the same. The fact he's declining shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
That is the "i am not fat just big boned argument " , hes finished because how he acted off the field not on it
 
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