Well I assume any deal with a new club would have decent financial value so it's not quite as black and white as that.
Genuinely, if I had Rooney's money I would be putting my hard earned reputation and legacy ahead of financial gain.
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Genuinely, if I had Rooney's money I would be putting my hard earned reputation and legacy ahead of financial gain.
By that logic you would fit in well at Anfield. So much love and delusion because well I dont really know why you hero worship him so much.
The loyalty payment is his wages. If we sell him we will owe him a portion of his contract.
That's why he's digging his heels in, because if he decides to leave on his own accord he will miss out on that "loyalty" bonus. If the club are the ones that try to sell him, he'll get a percentage of his contract. That's why Mourinho said he will never force him to leave, that this is his home and that he can stay as long as he likes. That put the ball in Rooney's court, if he moves club, that's his choice and no contract payout is due. So that is why he's now calling the club's bluff saying he is happy to stay for a season - because it will be cheaper for us to get a fee for him, say £10m and use that to clear off his contract than it would be for us to have him rot in the reserves for 12 months earning £15m.
Think about it, 2 weeks ago he had a bunch of options to chose from, now he's not got a better option than United u23's?
Just leave already.
The footballing Theresa May. Incompetent. In the wrong job. Utterly unlikeable. Clinging on against all logical sense. Urgh.
The footballing Theresa May. Incompetent. In the wrong job. Utterly unlikeable. Clinging on against all logical sense. Urgh.
How are you going to survive when he leaves or is stuck in the reserves?
Not many that's for sure. It takes a mountain integrity
Depends really, if you've already got £130m in the bank, would you trade £20m for 2 years on the bench? or play first team football and earn 8m instead.
For Rooney he keeps talking about wanting to play, so if he truly means that then go do it. If not sit on the bench and collect.
I bet they're still feeling awful about Casillas being moved on, especially after winning the league and their 2nd CL trophy in 2 years
This has been is going to see out his 250k a week contract. Bet no one wants to sign rooney and he will never leave his beloved northwest never mind the country
If he stays then we all know he just wants to collect the $$$. We don't need players like that at the club, especially when they don't bring anything to table.
He will definitely ruin fans opinion of him.
He will definitely ruin fans opinion of him.
I think you miss the biggest elephant in the room
NO CLUB would want him, not on his ability now and definitely not on 100k (assuming even if we subsidy the other 200k)
The truth is, he'd simply look out of place anywhere else other than England. He doesn't have the ability to integrate into any other culture or society. He's the kind of guy that would go to the top restaurant in China and ask for a Pot Noodle. He'd look more out of place than a duck at a goose convention.
Our only hope is him getting snapped up by West Ham or Everton, but I think that's highly unlikely bearing in mind the wages he's on.
It's sad seeing him transform from a player who lived and breathed every moment on the pitch, desperate to play every minute of every game, to a retired sloth that occasionally comes on for a run around, and even then has the touch of a hippo on acid.
He may be in the books as a club legend, but he'll also be remembered as a huge mercenary.
I disagree, he's probably at a similar level performance-wise as Gerrard was when he went to LA.
Chinese and Americans would pay much more than that. If some other PL club decided to get him he'd surely be at least on 100k wages. Rooney's demands are probably way higher though. Football isn't the most sensible business, he'll find suitors.
This. Rooney was negotiating with a strong hand. He was still one of our best players at the time, and had firm interest from Chelsea and Mourinho. People might be forgetting Rooney was one of the few bright spots in that Moyes season, one of the few players who could actually look themselves in the mirror after that season. RVP and Nani downed tools, Rio and Vidic were...winding down their careers to say the least. If Rooney had been a catalyst for Chelsea and they had won the league, United fans would've been apoplectic. Moyes made the right short term decision.
On the other hand, Fergie was right. In the long term, it was the right time to let him go, and now we've seen the proof that he was a player on the verge of decline.
I think this all still positioning. I think the club's thinking was we'd sign up to keep him while he still had some gas in the tank, which he did at the time, probably keep him on to break the record, which he has now, knowing full well we'd probably take a hit financially to move him on to MLS or wherever, which we probably will now.
I think he'll move on, this Summer. It's the right thing for all parties involved.
U guys are overestimating his marketing appeal.
No cocky braggy kids would want a rooney jersey these days. And as much as you thinj the other continent is some kind of second class football fans, they too read news and watch football, nobody in their right mind would be happy that their team signs a washed up hippo
No cocky braggy kids would want a rooney jersey these days. And as much as you thinj the other continent is some kind of second class football fans, they too read news and watch football, nobody in their right mind would be happy that their team signs a washed up hippo
His marketing potential goes far further than shirts. You go look at some of the pictures taken when we sign up deals with our sponsors. All these guys want is to be seen with the HUGES names and they want to be associated with them. Rooney is going to be the biggest name in England for years to come whether you like it or not. When we roll out a guy like Wayne Rooney the sponsors will upper their bids to crazy money just to get that star shine.
His marketing potential goes far further than shirts. You go look at some of the pictures taken when we sign up deals with our sponsors. All these guys want is to be seen with the HUGES names and they want to be associated with them. Rooney is going to be the biggest name in England for years to come whether you like it or not. When we roll out a guy like Wayne Rooney the sponsors will upper their bids to crazy money just to get that star shine.
That's during park era.
Explain why there's no clubs that at least whisper some interest in him, with all the speculation that he would be available on free, and even rumors that united are willing to forgone many things to get of this bandaid.
And his marketing appeal on his new club would only works if he suddenly lights up the team (whereever he might go).
I dont honestly think the us/chinese fans will happy and cheering him if he plays like has been playing in the last year. He might be the big name going to their club but without any sort of football to back his move the narratives could be on ugly.
He has the protection of his achievements here that people begrudgingly or relutantly still give him some respect and face saving silent. I'd wager that's not the case with other england club and their fans
He's staying.
Bet on it.
Just hope he can get fit and be a useful squad player.
An indian summer if you will.
Bet on it.
Just hope he can get fit and be a useful squad player.
An indian summer if you will.
He has been shite for 3 seasons now - that ship has sailed I'm afraid...
Say what now? Why do you say that?
If the only reason Griezmann was interested was the money, he'd be a Utd player by now. Whether he does sign a new contract with Atletico or not, there's not a doubt in the world he would have made more with us. The fact that he's staying with Atletico for the season to help them out if anything proves that it's not money that motivates him.
I think we'd rather work out a deal with his agent and pay him a season's salary upfront and release him than keep him at the club. Having him stick around and not play will be poisonous for us.
Until the early season Watford game I thought it was just the latest dip that he always seemed to previously recover from.
After that game you could see he was finished. He couldn't even pass the ball.
All season he jogged around bitching at every ref frustrated at perfectly good decisions.
For years everyone said because of his build and lifestyle he would fade early in his 30s but I never saw it happening that dramatically quickly.
I can't see how Everton could possibly justify signing him for free now I can only see him kicking his heels occasionally on the bench next year.
A shame as he's been a great servant. I can't blame him for maximising his contracts he's given us a lot despite the wrangling and has always been committed on the pitch but I can't see him offering us a thing next season.
Even if we have to pay off the final year of his contract to get rid of him, I'd do it. Get rid and move on. Don't want him lingering around like a bad smell. Plus it'd also save us from having to listen to the likes of Savage and Neville crying about his absence from the first team.
He looked horrendously unfit and out of shape in Carrick's testimonial and that was 1 week after the season finished! Feck knows what he'll be like by the end of the summer!
I know he probably hasn't helped himself but I feel a bit for the guy, he's fighting nature and it must be fecking hard work to motivate yourself when you're fighting a losing battle. The stupid thing is it was pretty obvious that he would suffer a rapid decline due to his physical make-up and the amount of miles on the clock but Ed and David saw fit to give him a massive contract...idiocy.
I know he probably hasn't helped himself but I feel a bit for the guy, he's fighting nature and it must be fecking hard work to motivate yourself when you're fighting a losing battle. The stupid thing is it was pretty obvious that he would suffer a rapid decline due to his physical make-up and the amount of miles on the clock but Ed and David saw fit to give him a massive contract...idiocy.
I bet Jose was gutted when he finally got to manage Rooney.
It will be like a new signing.
But why would we make a new signing who can't run, pass, shoot or score?
The only plus point is that moyes' time at United fecked him as much as it fecked us
Fecked Moyes more cos we will recover (well on the way now) but Moyes' standing in the game is permanently fecked ☺
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I think he'd do better in a different league.. he still has quality just lacks consistency. Maybe he can find it in a slower paced, less talented league
I think he means: When Rooney leaves, it will be like a new signing. Meaning us fans will be as happy from him leaving as from signing a new player.
Edit: I hope that's what he meant. Otherwise, lol.
They boo even Ronaldo so I don't think the fans care but I'm sure they weren't happy with the way his departure was handled. We've won 2 trophies this year despite Rooney being here this season. His presence or lack of it next year is going to have zero impact on our ability to win a big trophy.I bet they're still feeling awful about Casillas being moved on, especially after winning the league and their 2nd CL trophy in 2 years
I've done fine with him being pretty much "injured" for most games this season. Like I've said plenty of times, I don't want him playing games anymore and he doesn't either. He's just there and not really an important part of the squad.
If it was going to happen it would have already, he needs to feck off otherwise everyone will know he just wants the money and not the "He just wants to play" bollocks we hear all the time.
The only way he's going to keep playing is to leave us and take a massive pay cut, no doubt the MLS will offer him a decent wage but at least 100k less a week and I think we can rule out China as I cannot see him going there one bit
If he doesnt leave to get game time, especially during a season before a WC, just so he can collect wages (rather than dropping what he wants and joining somebody that can afford him) I hope Jose does what he did with Basti.
If he does stay, I just hope he won't play the "I just want to play; to get game time". If that's what he really wanted, he should leave. He should probably leave now, it'd be the best for his legacy with the club.
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