It'll be hard to find someone..we knew that we werent keeping RVP and Falcao long before the season came to an end..surely we knew that we had to replace them..We have done very well to boost our midfield, but have an attack that is possibly even worse than last season..and we only scored 63 goals last season.
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Then that is tough. Back then he could still produce, now he is older and isn't. If the manager is strong enough to drop him, so be it.
Where is demba ba these days? A fine stop gap
China earning 230k a week..he isnt giving that up!
The fact he is still called world class by some with those figures, then you compare him with Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Aguerro and even Neymar. He is nowhere near world class now. They have left him well behind.
The problem is, Hernandez isn't a good enough striker to start either, so there's not much pressure for Rooney to perform. I also think van Gaal's cautious approach is killing Rooney. He likes to take risks, be aggressive and push forward but you rarely see him do that these days. I was a huge fan of Rooney in his younger days, but I haven't seen that version of him for a while.
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He had a pretty good game from an individual viewpoint I thought, but it also highlighted one of the main problems... He just doesn't look like a threat at all. Even when his touch, passing and all that is good, not once did it look like he would score. And that's a big problem with your main striker. I always thought he was at his best as a leading striker, and maybe that was the case under Fergie, but he isn't suited to playing up front for Van Gaal and the way LvG wants his strikers to play at all. For now, I'd use him as the 10 and use Hernandez in front of him, that way we have the pace up front and the off the ball movement, and added aerial power because Hernandez has always had a good leap on him, but also the strength and goalscoring in behind with Rooney in the hole.
There was a moment when Mata sent him through and he just couldn't catch up, Rooney of 3-4 years ago would have been able to go clear and make it a 1v1 situation with the GK. His legs are gone.
Wayne does work hard, but he wants to be the main striker, so he has to score. We cannot keep going on about him not being given chances, he has to show he is still capable of creating chances for himself as well.
Rooney will have no excuses if he doesn't hit the 20 goal mark this season.
If he fails then he should be replaced next summer. But I don't think it would be a good idea for the manager to give up on his star player after 3 games.
If he fails then he should be replaced next summer. But I don't think it would be a good idea for the manager to give up on his star player after 3 games.
Pretty much. I usually don't care about goal droughts too much because as long as a player is still performing on the pitch and getting in chances, then you know the goals will come back. For the past year though, Rooney has just hardly ever looked like scoring, getting no chances, and the performances have been decent at best if we're being honest. He had a 8 or 9 game goal drought at the start of 2015 as well (back from the end of 2014), and then went on a small scoring run of like 5 goals maybe, and then onto his current drought. For the main striker of a team who aspires for the title, it's woeful. I would rather he got into the chances and missed them, as then you'd only worry about his finishing. But like I said, he doesn't get into any chances these days, and that is the big worry.
To be fair his star player is De Gea and he's had him benched for that time, if Rooney doesn't deliver I have absolute faith LvG will bench him sooner rather than later.
There's huge difference in there situations. Rooney is on 300k a weak, our captain and the 'face of our team', furthermore he isnt refusing to play for this club unlike DDG and we dont have good competition for him. Although our u18 striker could basically do what he does weekly for us.
But why is this?
He's only 29 and for most athletes this is when they are at their peak. Sprinters usually peak between 27-30 and endurance and strength athletes haven't reached their peak yet at that age.
To what extent have his injuries impacted on his abilities? If injuries have not significantly contributed to his decline, you have to wonder what he is doing in his private life that might explain why he has prematurely gone over the hill. Even if his current lack of form is a blip and he regains some confidence and starts scoring again, it is clear to everyone that he is no longer at the physical level he was at 5 years ago. Something just doesn't add up.
What's the 'appropriate' way of dealing with a player that is the current icon of Man Utd, the captain with a 300k wage, but one who clearly isn't playing on the required level?
I said it before in one thread, if Rooney will not deliver i can see him being sold or better said ofloaded next season. But it wouldn't suprised me if he is sold in january or even next week if we can land a top striker.
LVG is ruthless and i think Rooney's days as our first striker are numbered if he will not deliver soon. We all saw with Di Maria, when LVG decide to bench one of the stars they have a hard time to come back in the first 11.
LvG can be ruthless as much as he wants but I highly doubt he has the power to offload Rooney. Rooney is the most commercial face of Man United.
I don't think he still is. Look around who did most of the commercial job, adidas boys (Mata, Herrera, Shaw, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin) are now number one in that departement.
I think we bought a nice commercial face in Schweinsteiger and i can see Memphis become important in that departement too if he develops like we expect.
Just a piece of my mind, i really got this feeling LVG has no power at all . How else can you explain Di Maria and Falcao ?? Buying 60 million players and bench them is not the way van Gaal works .
This is looking more and more like an absolute fantasy. He'll be lucky to hit 10 in his current state.
Eh?
So let me get this straight:
1. He hasn't got the power to bench Rooney because Rooney is on a big wage and an important figurehead to the club.
2. He didn't want to sign Falcao or Di Maria, they were signed for him. However, despite being forced to sign Di Maria for £60m he benched him and eventually got rid of him.
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I cant even be bothered to discuss him anymore - Please score soon Wayne.
Always the victim. It's never his fault.
Hire someone to kill him ??
Bit harsh.
The concerning thing is he's not missing a load of chances. At times he has gone through spells of bad finishing but you knew eventually he would get one and the confidence would come back. During his current drought I don't remember many missed opportunities, except his hesitation against Spurs, which suggests a bigger problem. When he does finally get a goal it could easily be another dry spell before we see the next one go in.
The attack is simply not functioning and it's difficult to assess whether he is the sole problem, the biggest problem or just one part of the problem.
One thing that is clear is that we don't have the right variety of attacking options in the squad to react to certain situations. Fellaini is the closest thing we have to a physical forward and there was a lack of alternatives to Mata and Januzaj today to turn to.
The attack is simply not functioning and it's difficult to assess whether he is the sole problem, the biggest problem or just one part of the problem.
One thing that is clear is that we don't have the right variety of attacking options in the squad to react to certain situations. Fellaini is the closest thing we have to a physical forward and there was a lack of alternatives to Mata and Januzaj today to turn to.
I wonder what the reaction in this thread would be if we had won. I don't think he'd be getting as much criticism as he is. He wasn't that bad I didn't think. He still wasn't good and has to improve, but I thought it was an improvement on the Villa match.
How many matches until he gets dropped? I hope it is soon as he is no longer the player he was. He is nowhere near as fast as he was at his peak, that is obviously because he is older and on the way down. He is a major problem for United right now. He is certainly in no state to be a lone striker for a club like United.
I fully agree with this.
Unless he suffers a long term injury he should be returning at least 1 in 2 this season with the team he has operating behind him. No excuses. There's various strikers around Europe that would have no trouble whatsoever in hitting that target, whether they are available is completely irrelevant to the discussion, he's getting paid parity with an elite group and he needs to prove he's worth it other wise we should be looking to offload him and bring in someone who can or at least someone who can offer what Rooney does for a fraction of the cost.
Rooney is not bigger than the club. Becks left, and we survived. Ronaldo left, we got bigger commercially. Manchester United is the brand, not Rooney(although he himself is massive). Being with Adidas changes things also. It's more important the team does well....jersey sales will follow that.
To bad that first run of his was offside. Scoring a goal would have probably given him a good boost. He faded pretty quickly today again though.
What can I say that already hasn't been said?
He'll score a tap in on Wednesday night and people will give him the Torres treatment...
"Oh he's back!"
When in reality, he's not
He'll score a tap in on Wednesday night and people will give him the Torres treatment...
"Oh he's back!"
When in reality, he's not
SAF couldn't have been more right. Has been average at best for far too many seasons now.
Let's think at this for a minute, why is Rooney so highly regarded. When he came to UTD he was the best young English talent, UTD being an English club + being the best club in the league made him what he is today and obviously leading the line for his country. Now he is clearly on the wane, can he still produce for club and country? England have Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane, Berahino, Ings + Austin, out of them its debatable that Sturridge, Welbeck and Kane can produce and provide more than what Rooney can and this is where I'm starting to think, is Rooney irreplaceable? No, I think if UTD got let's say for arguments sake Harry Kane he could quite possibly take Rooneys place and become the Commercial face of the club and therefore country as well. I'd be willing to take that chance with Kane because let's face it, commercial revenue is important to a club and its time a new kid took over the mantle.
SAF didn't play him against Madrid....One of the biggest tests on the road to Wembley that year, in SAF's last CL campaign.....
What does that say....
Oh bollocks, stop making shit up. The majority of fans arent pleased with him and havent been for a while. Can you read?. Go check the various game threads, he is getting nailed every game.
Deserved though to be fair
He's just not very good at anything anymore is he? He's decent at a lot of things, but has no standout feature to his game. He's probably not even in a list of top 10 of PL strikers these days, never mind top 10 players.
I honestly don't think he's as good as the likes of Bony and Benteke anymore, never mind Aguero and Costa.
I honestly don't think he's as good as the likes of Bony and Benteke anymore, never mind Aguero and Costa.
Good God man get a grip for feck sake
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