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20 goals? He'd struggle to get 20 shots on target at thjs rate

I think a lot of people assumed that because he was now our definitive main man up top, Rooney would comfortably hit 20 goals. Looking incredibly unlikely at the moment, though. Simply moving a player further up the field doesn't guarantee their goals rate will improve, unfortunately.
 
Don't know about that, but RVP did until penalty against someone (too lazy to search against who) and he wasn't dropped.

Because his link up play was still world class and he didn't turn into a pub league player in every single aspect of the game
 
Has anyone seen Odgens tweet. The twat is blaming Mata for the reason Rooney is ineffective. :lol:
 
Did Ruud ever go on a 10-game streak without scoring? If so, did SAF drop him?
Don't know about that, but RVP did until penalty against someone (too lazy to search against who) and he wasn't dropped.

At least RVP goals before his goal drought, United had virtually won the league. 12 point's clear with 12 games to play.
If United want to complete on a level playing ground with the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, let alone City and Chelsea, they need much better.
 
I'm probably his biggest critic on here, but he was better today. Unfortunate not to get a goal first half, and good control followed by blocked volley in the second. I think we were just unlucky today. Could do with Herrera in the team too.

I think not matey, I hated Rooney before hating rooney was cool.
 
Because his link up play was still world class and he didn't turn into a pub league player in every single aspect of the game

At least RVP goals before his goal drought, United had virtually won the league. 12 point's clear with 12 games to play.
If United want to complete on a level playing ground with the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, let alone City and Chelsea, they need much better.

Did I say anything against RVP in my comment? Just stated he also went on goal drought and wasn't dropped, that's all. I do know that RVP back then, even without goals, was better than Rooney ever was, didn't know I should state the obvious.
 
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From a tweet...
"This is only the second game in 21 Premier League matches in 2015 for Wayne Rooney that he's had more than one shot on target."

Worrying.
 
Biggest issue right now is his lack of physicality for me. He's worryingly more comfortable infront of defence playing a short pass than he is driving at defences and making those bursting runs he used to and generally doing centre forward work in and amongst defenders. It's rare that he plays passes the ball and shoots off for the one-two to go in on goal. He probably feels he can't win those duels. Maybe it's because he's played in the hole so long that he's lost that physical edge, but I remember how in 2010 (was it), when he was bossing the Milan defence with his back to goal. He's never been an RVP/RVN striker in that sense, but he always had strength.

Hopefully much of it is down to confidence and a run of scoring will bring back the edge to his game.
 
Biggest issue right now is his lack of physicality for me. He's worryingly more comfortable infront of defence playing a short pass than he is driving at defences and making those bursting runs he used to and generally doing centre forward work in and amongst defenders. It's rare that he plays passes the ball and shoots off for the one-two to go in on goal. He probably feels he can't win those duels. Maybe it's because he's played in the hole so long that he's lost that physical edge, but I remember how in 2010 (was it), when he was bossing the Milan defence with his back to goal. He's never been an RVP/RVN striker in that sense, but he always had strength.

Hopefully much of it is down to confidence and a run of scoring will bring back the edge to his game.
It's like he has gone from the Boyman to Oldman.
 
Think he's the biggest problem at the club right now (On the pitch) An injury would be a huge blessing in disguise. He's hindering our team yet he still starts. As a 9 he's hopeless, Wilson would get more goals than him over the course of the season. As a 10 we have better options now. For me we need to get rid, sadly that won't be possible so we're gonna have this issue for a few years.
 
Think he's the biggest problem at the club right now (On the pitch) An injury would be a huge blessing in disguise. He's hindering our team yet he still starts. As a 9 he's hopeless, Wilson would get more goals than him over the course of the season. As a 10 we have better options now. For me we need to get rid, sadly that won't be possible so we're gonna have this issue for a few years.
Massive overreaction. I actually do think he'll find his scoring touch back. That doesn't just go. End product is something I still have some faith he will achieve, to a decent extent.

At the same time I think we need to sign.
 
Think he's the biggest problem at the club right now (On the pitch) An injury would be a huge blessing in disguise. He's hindering our team yet he still starts. As a 9 he's hopeless, Wilson would get more goals than him over the course of the season. As a 10 we have better options now. For me we need to get rid, sadly that won't be possible so we're gonna have this issue for a few years.
We should have got rid before SAF retired. Unfortunately nobody would pay the wages the greedy so and so is on. So we will have to wait for when he wants to go back to Everton to play for nowt.
 
Massive overreaction. I actually do think he'll find his scoring touch back. That doesn't just go. End product is something I still have some faith he will achieve, to a decent extent.

At the same time I think we need to sign.

I do generally think that Wilson playing as a 9 all season would score more than Rooney. But that's a question that won't be answered. Thing is, if we buy were still going to be stuck with Rooney in the 10 role.

We should have got rid before SAF retired. Unfortunately nobody would pay the wages the greedy so and so is on. So we will have to wait for when he wants to go back to Everton to play for nowt.

Yep I agree, I wanted him out from the moment he handed in that second transfer request, would never of given him a new contract. Let alone for 5 years.
 
I do generally think that Wilson playing as a 9 all season would score more than Rooney. But that's a question that won't be answered. Thing is, if we buy were still going to be stuck with Rooney in the 10 role.
Wilson just doesn't look ready for United yet. In all his performances last season he looked like a kid that's been promoted to soon.

I just hope LVG drops his captain must play nonsense. If we sign a striker whoever is in form should play. And I'd prefer Rooney stay away from the number 10 position.
 
Wilson just doesn't look ready for United yet. In all his performances last season he looked like a kid that's been promoted to soon.

I just hope LVG drops his captain must play nonsense. If we sign a striker whoever is in form should play. And I'd prefer Rooney stay away from the number 10 position.

I agree Wilson may not be ready, but I would rather see him given a chance when Rooney is playing like this. Wilson will be hungry and give everything to make a statement, it can't be any worse than what we have now.

Yeah he should he should be dropped, I can't see it happening though.
 
Wilson just doesn't look ready for United yet. In all his performances last season he looked like a kid that's been promoted to soon.

I just hope LVG drops his captain must play nonsense. If we sign a striker whoever is in form should play. And I'd prefer Rooney stay away from the number 10 position.
I'd rather have Mata at 10 or Herrera as the extra midfielder.
 
Wilson just doesn't look ready for United yet. In all his performances last season he looked like a kid that's been promoted to soon.

I just hope LVG drops his captain must play nonsense. If we sign a striker whoever is in form should play. And I'd prefer Rooney stay away from the number 10 position.
The funny thing is I'm sure he's dropped his captain before (can't remember at which club), so not quite sure what's happening here:confused:
Must be his hands are tied in some respect - as crazy as it sounds I think it must relate in part to whatever terms the club agreed to on Rooney's last contract. Otherwise, none of this makes sense to me.
 
The funny thing is I'm sure he's dropped his captain before (can't remember at which club), so not quite sure what's happening here:confused:
Must be his hands are tied in some respect - as crazy as it sounds I think it must relate in part to whatever terms the club agreed to on Rooney's last contract. Otherwise, none of this makes sense to me.
We don't exactly have alternatives.
 
But why does a club as big as us come to this? Without any contingency plan, thats just awful decision making by whoever is responsible..
I agree. I think we just seem to believe too much Rooney sometimes as a club. It's like the whole club actually. We were oblivious to our weaknesses because we were winning and getting 3 points despite playing poorly. With Rooney, we're sometimes oblivious (and maybe he has been too) to his overall game because he puts up good numbers.

We should have made signing a striker a top priority this summer given Rooney's last three seasons. You never know though, maybe we actually did.
 
But most times it's like playing with 10 men so surely the Pea could replace him for example - can't be any worse?
I think Hernandez deserves a chance and hopefully it happens vs Brugge. I was super impressed with him at Madrid. But I think he works well when he has a strike partner, and I suppose whenever he played for Madrid, Ronaldo was there, whereas we have Mata or Januzaj.

But yeah, I'm all for giving Hernandez a chance. I think his movement as a striker is fantastic. I'd like to see him play in the team we played today.
 
Van Bommell got dropped at Bayern.
Sorry maybe I wasn't clear. I mean't we don't have great striking alternatives.

Either way we simply have to sign. We could have had Rvp step on right now with Rooney out of form. He looked a bit past it too last season but still a great backup to have.
 
I agree. I think we just seem to believe too much Rooney sometimes as a club. It's like the whole club actually. We were oblivious to our weaknesses because we were winning and getting 3 points despite playing poorly. With Rooney, we're sometimes oblivious (and maybe he has been too) to his overall game because he puts up good numbers.

We should have made signing a striker a top priority this summer given Rooney's last three seasons. You never know though, maybe we actually did.
It doesnt have to be necessarily a big name from a massive club that we wont get..just younger decent talent..Perhaps we need someone overseeing the football operations of things..For better long term planning..especially as we cant really depend on the SAF model of long term management.
 
It doesnt have to be necessarily a big name from a massive club that we wont get..just younger decent talent..Perhaps we need someone overseeing the football operations of things..For better long term planning..especially as we cant really depend on the SAF model of long term management.
I earlier thought it should either be a top striker or as you say a younger one with potential, who could replace Rooney in a year or so time.

But looking at Rooney's form, now I'm beginning to feel that a stop gap striker who can come in and do a decent job would be more apt. Someone like Bony but not at that ridiculous fee.
 
It doesnt have to be necessarily a big name from a massive club that we wont get..just younger decent talent..Perhaps we need someone overseeing the football operations of things..For better long term planning..especially as we cant really depend on the SAF model of long term management.
It has to be somebody who is a threat to him, not a kid so Rooney can still pull rank. He needs a real kick up the backside, somebody who is capable of taking his place.
 
It has to be somebody who is a threat to him, not a kid so Rooney can still pull rank. He needs a real kick up the backside, somebody who is capable of taking his place.
The last time someone took his place he didn't lift his game, he didn't want to play.
 
I earlier thought it should either be a top striker or as you say a younger one with potential, who could replace Rooney in a year or so time.

But looking at Rooney's form, now I'm beginning to feel that a stop gap striker who can come in and do a decent job would be more apt. Someone like Bony but not at that ridiculous fee.
Not a youngster in the mould of Wilson for example ..but a good striker..good enough to start..but rather he doesnt necessarily have to be someone that we will chase from Madrid, Bayern or Barca, as they arent selling..problem is this late in the window, and with everyone seeing our deficiencies up close, who can we get? Griezmann isnt a traditional striker , but can play centrally..but I dont think we are interested seeing as we let him resign for a higher buyout at Atletico
 
Looking at it he's only broken 20 goals in all competitions once in the past five seasons (and not for the past three) and there's quite a few penalties in there as well. It's going to be difficult I think for him to hit that 20 goal target (which is a little low anyway when you look at what the other top strikers in the world are doing).
 
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