Wayne Rooney image 10

Wayne Rooney England flag

2015-16 Performances

View full 2015-16 profile

5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
41
Goals
15
Assists
6
Yellow cards
5
Status
Not open for further replies.
Akash said:
I'm not sure what game people were watching. He scored a goal which was wrongly disallowed and created one of our best chances from open play with that cross to Mata. Not great, no, but our worst player? Not by a long long distance. It seems people can't wait to have a go at him regardless of performance.
Click to expand...
Januzaj created that chance for Rooney and put Depay through.

Who was the worst? If it wasn't Rooney, he wasn't far off. And him being so highly paid and our main striker this season and captain, obviously makes expectations rightfully higher than a 20 year old kid.
 
Akash said:
I'm not sure what game people were watching. He scored a goal which was wrongly disallowed and created one of our best chances from open play with that cross to Mata. Not great, no, but our worst player? Not by a long long distance. It seems people can't wait to have a go at him regardless of performance.
Click to expand...

Apparently there's another angle that show's he was off?

Either way, I don't know why he's playing the line so tight in that situation, he has so much space, he could easily be half a step back and the chance is still there.

Agreed he wasn't our worst player though, I thought Adnan was pretty appalling.
 
Ixion said:
He's on 2, 3, or even 4 times the wage of every other player here so he's going to be under more scrutiny. A 6 out of 10 performance from Memphis isn't as bad as Rooney having one. And fans will take into account what he's on because he held the club to ransom for it.
Click to expand...

Oh I see, so now we rate players according to their wage? Right Ill have to look up every players wage before I decide who's played well or not then.

And the "holding the club to ransom" story is just getting so old.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
Oh I see, so now we rate players according to their wage? Right Ill have to look up every players wage before I decide who's played well or not then.
Click to expand...
No obviously but it's why people are making more of a big deal out of Rooney's performance than say other players who were also 6/10.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Januzaj created that chance for Rooney and put Depay through.

Who was the worst? If it wasn't Rooney, he wasn't far off. And him being so highly paid and our main striker this season and captain, obviously makes expectations rightfully higher than a 20 year old kid.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure why you bring up Januzaj. Thought he was good as well albeit not as good as Rooney.

And I really don't care how much he gets paid. He's played well for the last 2 games. With a bit of luck and better finishing from Depay and Mata he could have had a goal and 3 assists in the last 2 games after a stinker against Villa. Wish he'd get a goal to kick start his season, but he's done well in the last 2 games even without the goal.
 
Stringer said:
It would be interesting to see whether some of the posters defending Rooney were the same calling for Van Persie to be sold because there hasn't been much difference in their performances the last few months. Actually that's not fair as at least Van Persie could control the ball.
Click to expand...

The Rooney defenders will be the same ones saying 'I knew he was finished' 12 months after Rooney has gone.
 
Akash said:
I'm not sure why you bring up Januzaj. Thought he was good as well albeit not as good as Rooney.

And I really don't care how much he gets paid. He's played well for the last 2 games. With a bit of luck and better finishing from Depay and Mata he could have had a goal and 3 assists in the last 2 games after a stinker against Villa. Wish he'd get a goal to kick start his season, but he's done well in the last 2 games even without the goal.
Click to expand...
Because that poster was talking about our worst players? Our defence and midfield was good, Depay was at times good but sadly at the crucial points poor, and Mata was our best player.

I don't see how any of Rooney's performances this season can qualify as good performances. If it's really as simple as "two good passes hence two almost assists hence good performance", then Di Maria has barely had a bad game in his life.

I definitely agree that we need him to get a few goals to give him confidence and kick start the season.
 
I'm probably his biggest critic on here, but he was better today. Unfortunate not to get a goal first half, and good control followed by blocked volley in the second. I think we were just unlucky today. Could do with Herrera in the team too.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Because that poster was talking about our worst players? Our defence and midfield was good, Depay was at times good but sadly at the crucial points poor, and Mata was our best player.

I don't see how any of Rooney's performances this season can qualify as good performances. If it's really as simple as "two good passes hence two almost assists hence good performance", then Di Maria has barely had a bad game in his life.

I definitely agree that we need him to get a few goals to give him confidence and kick start the season.
Click to expand...

He has been good in the last 2 games, so I'd disagree. It was just two good passes either, so that's something of a strawman.
 
Akash said:
He has been good in the last 2 games, so I'd disagree. It was just two good passes either, so that's something of a strawman.
Click to expand...
Even if it was, it was not much more. Agree to disagree on this.
 
I thought he was ok these last two games. Not up to the standard we should expect of a United striker but just about acceptable. If that's his average level of performance with a dozen good games and a dozen poor games, I think we'll be able to do be successful in multiple competitions this season. Lots of tight wins along the way though
 
Brwned said:
I thought he was ok these last two games. Not up to the standard we should expect of a United striker but just about acceptable. If that's his average level of performance with a dozen good games and a dozen poor games, I think we'll be able to do be successful in multiple competitions this season. Lots of tight wins along the way though
Click to expand...

I agree with this, he clearly wasn't great but he was a damn sight better than against Villa, and against Villa he was better than against Spurs. If he had been playing better recently and had more public goodwill that would be called a solid performance by most on here, a 6/10.

Hopefully its the embryonic signs of an upturn in form. We can't sign anyone better than an inform Rooney, so that would be the best outcome.
 
The wingers failed him very badly today, terrible deliveries and not really a cross worth getting anything on. With the opposition playing so deep and within their half, its very hard to find and get on the end of a through ball either.
 
At least ppl can't blame RvP now!
Rooney being undroppable despite being absolutely useless and Herrera not getting a chance again and again are two of the most annoying things under LvG!
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
The wingers failed him very badly today, terrible deliveries and not really a cross worth getting anything on. With the opposition playing so deep and within their half, its very hard to find and get on the end of a through ball either.
Click to expand...

Watch the game again, he was never in a position to receive a pass with so many defender on him. Never mind a cross. He's so static.
 
Sky1981 said:
29 years. Club captain. 300k. And the best we can hope for is he wont be thks bad next game.

His saving grace are only : at least he's not as bad as aston villa game.
Click to expand...

He gets paid 300k for being able to retain possession... Magnificent.

Honestly, he needs a break. Bench him and let someone else play up front.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
The wingers failed him very badly today, terrible deliveries and not really a cross worth getting anything on. With the opposition playing so deep and within their half, its very hard to find and get on the end of a through ball either.
Click to expand...

Haha. Please. Mata was out best attacker by far. Memphis was very selfish but januzaj too had a good game especially in the first half.

I hate to say it but Rooney isn't really a striker suited to van Gaal's style either. It just complicates the issue on top of him not being as good anymore.
 
Sky1981 said:
Watch the game again, he was never in a position to receive a pass with so many defender on him. Never mind a cross. He's so static.
Click to expand...

yeah that's what happens when they have 10 people in their own half its hard to shake free of defenders in the middle unless the winger is being efficient. Memphis, Adnan and even Darmian got behind the defense more than once but didn't deliver one good ball for the striker.

he's had nightmare games but sadly this is one of his better days.
 
Did Ruud ever go on a 10-game streak without scoring? If so, did SAF drop him?
 
Varun said:
Haha. Please. Mata was out best attacker by far. Memphis was very selfish but januzaj too had a good game especially in the first half.

I hate to say it but Rooney isn't really a striker suited to van Gaal's style either. It just complicates the issue on top of him not being as good anymore.
Click to expand...

Everyone, including Mata wants to cut in, no one tried to stay wide to stretch the play and open things up in the middle. That's the bigger issue. Memphis being a greedy toad didn't help either.
 
NinjaFletch said:
I agree with this, he clearly wasn't great but he was a damn sight better than against Villa, and against Villa he was better than against Spurs. If he had been playing better recently and had more public goodwill that would be called a solid performance by most on here, a 6/10.

Hopefully its the embryonic signs of an upturn in form. We can't sign anyone better than an inform Rooney, so that would be the best outcome.
Click to expand...
Yup his average rating is clearly down to those agenda posters
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
Everyone, including Mata wants to cut in, no one tried to stay wide to stretch the play and open things up in the middle. That's the bigger issue. Memphis being a greedy toad didn't help either.
Click to expand...

Our fullbacks were providing the width all game long. Another matter altogether that neither had their crossing boots on.
 
NinjaFletch said:
I agree with this, he clearly wasn't great but he was a damn sight better than against Villa, and against Villa he was better than against Spurs. If he had been playing better recently and had more public goodwill that would be called a solid performance by most on here, a 6/10.

Hopefully its the embryonic signs of an upturn in form. We can't sign anyone better than an inform Rooney, so that would be the best outcome.
Click to expand...

I did give him a 6 but him being better than previous games isn't really anything to write home about. Was abysmal earlier.
 
I didn't think he was particularly bad today but he is just not going to solve our goal problem. We need a striker who will stay up top and lead the line rather than dropping deep here there and everwhere. We have Mata/Januzaj milling about in the attacking midfield already we need a striker who stays up there as a lynchpin for the smaller 'creative' players to buzz around and aim for with their passes/crosses.
 
People need to realize that he drops deep when our play goes stale and there's no movement. During the opening 20 minutes, when we were playing with intent and pace, he had no problem playing a bit higher. It's not true that we have a shitload of situations where there's no one in the box after a good attacking move cos he's faffing around in midfield, the instances when we were actually creating chances (or embryonic chances) today, he was in the box waiting for the ball. But Memphis was being greedy and Shaw and Darmian couldn't beat the first man with their crosses.
 
Looks better when he plays at number ten (although still poor) and doesn't look capable of playing as the striker at the moment.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Yup his average rating is clearly down to those agenda posters
Click to expand...

I think you've misunderstood what I was saying.

If you have two players put in 6/10 performances, one in a good vein of form and one in a bad run people will tend to look at the player on a good run and say he played better.

Rooney's not playing well at the minute, so people will look at today as part of a continuation of the trend and slate him for it even if his performance was ok. I'm not saying its down to 'agenda posters' or anything. Just natural human tendencies to look for patterns.

Edit: For example, just look at the average ratings for Memphis and Rooney. I'd find it hard to say Memphis was significantly better than Rooney but is scoring nearly a point and a half higher than him.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.