Yes, its quite bad..I wonder what Fergie saw when he wanted to get rid of him..but my goodness, he was so right.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 41
- Goals
- 15
- Assists
- 6
- Yellow cards
- 5
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Shout out to his agent Paul Stretford as well, he could possibly be the best salesman on earth if he sold us into giving a Messi like contract to a washed up past it striker for 5 years on £300k p/w: plus to make things even worse, the guy who has bent us over two times asking for two transfer requests is going to be our ambassador at the end of it all. Sir Alex didn't get every decision right but boy oh boy was he right when he didn't see Rooney's long term position as a striker at this club
Some of his first touches are out of this world literally.
Show some balls Louis - you know it's not working - stop being so bloody stubborn
Now we have got to the point where the likes of Mata and Adnan are concentrating on serving up something easy for him and ignoring better options
Now we have got to the point where the likes of Mata and Adnan are concentrating on serving up something easy for him and ignoring better options
He played better today but still shite nonetheless, his overall game was just poor.
I see the RDL are hanging their hat on the goal that should have stood but was given offside today.
He started brightly enough along with the rest of the team, but once Newcastle tightened up he faded and was anonymous for vast periods of the second half. These are the games when your supposed star striker makes the difference, not the new kid on the wing or the 20 year old #10, but the star man, captain and highest paid player at the club. He is not only slow off the mark with poor control, but his movement is erratic and worryingly he is easily knocked off the ball these days where he used to be a stocky tank out there.
He started brightly enough along with the rest of the team, but once Newcastle tightened up he faded and was anonymous for vast periods of the second half. These are the games when your supposed star striker makes the difference, not the new kid on the wing or the 20 year old #10, but the star man, captain and highest paid player at the club. He is not only slow off the mark with poor control, but his movement is erratic and worryingly he is easily knocked off the ball these days where he used to be a stocky tank out there.
This is one instance where I blame Woodward. I know he was under pressure from a commercial point of view not to make us look even more shit if Chelsea had gotten Rooney, but to agree to such a long extension, and God knows what else in that contract, is a pretty bad mistake.
He needs to score, this must be his worst patch of form ever.
Manager has to take majority of the blame.
As we don't have a DoF, I think the manager chooses the length of the contract. Obviously at the time, Moyes assumed he'd be here for the six years.
He reminds me of RVN at the end of his time. We would bring on Saha and look so much more fluid and dynamic. Rooney is just slowing us down, with how we play on the wing we need movement and speed in the centre.
Should have gone all out for Lacazette
Should have gone all out for Lacazette
Fergie couldn't pick a manager, but the man sure knew when a player had lost his usefulness. I've said it before, except for that mistake with Jaap Stam, he never gets rid of big players unless he knows they had no more left to give. The first time Rooney had the dispute with the club - he was still useful so Sir Alex held on to him. The second time it happened though, was the time to let him go, but Moyes thought otherwise...
How did he hinder us in this game? He did his job for the team and put himself into good positions to score..
At least RVN could score. He scored 20 goals in his last season.
Even in his time at Madrid he was scoring for fun, when it was clear he wasn't the same player.
300k a week or is it 350k?
I understand that, but maybe in light of the fact that Sir Alex is no longer here, we should think about not giving all the power to the manager from now onwards? I don't say interfere, but we need to have some more control over situations such as this imo.
Accept that point. I was reffering more to the fact that in his last season you could see plain as day he slowed the whole team down.
His time is over, it is all downhill from now. SAF knew it and slowly everyone else will see it.
Yeah, but not bloody enough.
The amount of times Mata was looking for him to make the run, but he decided to either stand there or come short was shocking.
Pure laziness from him. He simply isn't fit enough. He looks 'heavy' and slow as hell. Couldn't take on a player to save his life nowadays.
Do you even watch the game?
We are going to pay for this mistake for years now..Paul Stretford is a genius though..
Everyone will criticize Rooney, and I guess that comes with a player of his credentials, but he's not the only one that was poor, and to be fair, I don't think he was that bad today. I just think, like I said before, because we expect a lot more from him, he'll get the most criticism.
Although he started off brightly, I thought Memphis was poor today, as was Januzaj. Mata, although he kept the ball well, didn't really do anything outstanding and those are the three players playing behind Rooney.
I think if Van Gaal wants to get the best out of Rooney, we need pace around him. We need pace down the wings, and we need pace in behind him if he drops off.
Although he started off brightly, I thought Memphis was poor today, as was Januzaj. Mata, although he kept the ball well, didn't really do anything outstanding and those are the three players playing behind Rooney.
I think if Van Gaal wants to get the best out of Rooney, we need pace around him. We need pace down the wings, and we need pace in behind him if he drops off.
Fergie knew it two years ago - since then he's become captain, the commercial face, "un-droppable", and "un-subbable"
Why didn't anyone listen to the man?
He got into the box plenty of times. The crossing today was awful. Van Gaal said the same. Couldn't even clear the first man.
Did he not make the run that resulted in a goal( although it was off side)
Did he not flash to the top of the box to recieive the ball that resulted in a volley?
Did Rooney not get into the box plenty of times today, only to be greeted with shoody crosses from his teammates?
Rooney made himself available quite a couple of other times but his teammates did not notice the exact same way his teammates were looking for him to be available at times. This game was not on him.
Januzaj and Memphis were miles worse than him but it's fine, it's all Rooney these days. The latest United scapegoat.
Thank you!
Yes I know, unless we can come up with something. It's depressing
On the other hand, last season everyone had a go at LVG for not playing Falcao more - even his disgusting agent was throwing shade in the press. So LVG then starts doing that and of course Falcao turned out to be crap. At the time I got the feeling that LVG played so the powers that be could see what he was possibly seeing in training. It was the only way to get that point across imo. Not even his agent could argue with what Falcao was putting out. Therefore, with Rooney being such a big deal at the club, what better way to put him and/or the powers that be under pressure to face up to the fact he's not performing? I guess you play him - give him exactly what he wants. Public opinion and if it continues, his bad performances will do the rest and give him ammunition to ease him out of the side. I'm hoping this is what's happening of course
Rooney is held at higher standards because the wage he's on, he's the captain, and he's meant to be our best player.
Awful once again. Do people seriously still think he's gonna hit 15 in the league? Hernandez was more of a threat when he came on.
Somewhere around the 70th minute, we had 1 successful cross from 13. What exactly is a striker supposed to do with that service? He scored a goal that was incorrectly ruled offside. Rooney wasn't great today but I thought he was more than decent and definitely better than some of the dross around him
With our service, I think Aguero would do well to get to 15 in this team. Rooney was rubbish for the first two games but he's been decent these last two. He's just becoming the scapegoat now even when others around him have far worse games.
Sky ratings
Man Utd: Romero (6), Darmain (6), Smalling (7), Blind (7), Shaw (6), Schneiderlin (7), Schweinsteiger (6), Mata (6), Januzaj (6), Memphis (7), Rooney (6).
Dailymail Ratings
Romero 6, Darmian 6.5 (Valencia 77 mins, 5.5), Smalling 7, Blind 6, Shaw 6.5, Schneiderlin 5, Schweinsteiger 5.5 (Carrick 59 mins, 6), Mata 5.5, Januzaj 5 (Hernandez 67 mins, 5.5), Depay 7, Rooney 6
squawka ratings
Sergio Romero – 5/10
Matteo Darmian – 7/10
Adnan Januzaj – 5/10:
Memphis Depay – 6/10
Wayne Rooney – 6/10
Michael Carrick (Schweinsteiger) 7/10
Javier Hernandez (Januzaj) 5/10
Antonio Valencia (Darmian) 6/10
Chris Smalling – 6/10:
Daley Blind – 5/10:
Luke Shaw – 6/10:
Bastian Schweinsteiger – 7/10:Morgan Schneiderlin – 7/10:
Juan Mata – 7/10:
Nobody else seems to think he was our worst player on random rating football sites but yes on the caf he was our worst player..
Man Utd: Romero (6), Darmain (6), Smalling (7), Blind (7), Shaw (6), Schneiderlin (7), Schweinsteiger (6), Mata (6), Januzaj (6), Memphis (7), Rooney (6).
Dailymail Ratings
Romero 6, Darmian 6.5 (Valencia 77 mins, 5.5), Smalling 7, Blind 6, Shaw 6.5, Schneiderlin 5, Schweinsteiger 5.5 (Carrick 59 mins, 6), Mata 5.5, Januzaj 5 (Hernandez 67 mins, 5.5), Depay 7, Rooney 6
squawka ratings
Sergio Romero – 5/10
Matteo Darmian – 7/10
Adnan Januzaj – 5/10:
Memphis Depay – 6/10
Wayne Rooney – 6/10
Michael Carrick (Schweinsteiger) 7/10
Javier Hernandez (Januzaj) 5/10
Antonio Valencia (Darmian) 6/10
Chris Smalling – 6/10:
Daley Blind – 5/10:
Luke Shaw – 6/10:
Bastian Schweinsteiger – 7/10:Morgan Schneiderlin – 7/10:
Juan Mata – 7/10:
Nobody else seems to think he was our worst player on random rating football sites but yes on the caf he was our worst player..
The best out of Rooney is already gone, and has been for some time. Maybe if we are lucky we will get flashes now and then but he is looking unfit and past his best. We need someone else up front,.
Lol put most strikers in that team against that opposition and they would struggle, the biggest issue is as a team we are not creative at all, we barely create any chances, but let's ignore that because it's so much easier to blame Wayne Rooney. The one chance he was given he put the ball in the back of the net, not much more you can ask from him. If he was constantly missing chances i can get the hate but at the moment its not justified. Imo Memphis was even worse today but he won't get the same level of grief.
Biggest issue is our overall attacking play hasn't evolved much from last year which is a big concern.
Biggest issue is our overall attacking play hasn't evolved much from last year which is a big concern.
Aguero can make something out of nothing. Rooney can't. Aguero is streets ahead.
He's not a scapegoat. If he had one or two bad performances, nobody would be having a go. It's a culmination of his performances since last season. Everyone would like him to do well, but we have to be realistic. Plus, the more you get, more is expected of you.
one can hope..but its Manchester United that will suffer for it though..Surely LVG should get himself a striker as an insurance policy..He has to worry about his own job tooYes I know, unless we can come up with something. It's depressing
On the other hand, last season everyone had a go at LVG for not playing Falcao more - even his disgusting agent was throwing shade in the press. So LVG then starts doing that and of course Falcao turned out to be crap. At the time I got the feeling that LVG played so the powers that be could see what he was possibly seeing in training. It was the only way to get that point across imo. Not even his agent could argue with what Falcao was putting out. Therefore, with Rooney being such a big deal at the club, what better way to put him and/or the powers that be under pressure to face up to the fact he's not performing? I guess you play him - give him exactly what he wants. Public opinion and if it continues, his bad performances will do the rest and give him ammunition to ease him out of the side. I'm hoping this is what's happening of course
And the Sun will give him star man, what's your point?
Do you reckon we would have won the game if we had a 'world class' forward today?
He cannot hold a ball up, doesn't win 50/50s. Basic things strikers are meant to do. He doesn't show himself for a pass enough, doesn't get into dangerous positions, poor touches, slow build up, all of these things he's been guilty of for ages. Coloccini and Taylor had an easy game today because Wayne offers no threat.
Shouldn't be too hard to work out.
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