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Tell us another blatant lie.

He's been in and out of midfield for the past three seasons and had a few experiments under Ferguson too.

And have I just read some gossip that there's talk of a new fecking contract?! Jesus fecking christ, this club is going down the tubes. :lol:

He's been in and out of attacking midfield, not centre midfield. Massive difference. Yes, he has played a few games in centre midfield under Sir Alex, but not a whole host.


So, he's not really excellent when you compare him with actual midfielders, he is just playing well for a player who is playing in a new position?

Guess you could say that, but having watched him for us and England, I wouldn't say he looks out of place.
 
Player for the next 3 years, then player/manager role, brilliant! :drool:
Judging by his midfield M.O., this'll mean that he starts off in the OT toilets before gradually ambling his way up to the Manager's office, and then he'll constantly throw contracts out of the right-hand window.
 
Judging by his midfield M.O., this'll mean that he starts off in the OT toilets before gradually ambling his way up to the Manager's office, and then he'll constantly throw contracts out of the right-hand window.

Good news Steve:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/man-utd-rooney-contract-mourinho-11493005
(Now even comparing himself to Giggs after the comparision with Scholes got boring. )

"Not that I am am saying it needs to happen, but Manchester United should think about giving me a new contract after I learn to play new position, I should earn bonus for that. "

I really don't think this guy has any shame left in him.
 
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I'm a fan of Rooney, think he has a lot to offer us this season and next under Mourinho, but that's as far as it goes for me. Extending his contract in the Messi/Ronaldo wage he's on would be lunacy.
 
I'm a fan of Rooney, think he has a lot to offer us this season and next under Mourinho, but that's as far as it goes for me. Extending his contract in the Messi/Ronaldo wage he's on would be lunacy.

But what a defender he could be for us. Ricardo Carvalho is 38 and still plays football with good effect at a top french club as well as in national team. Wayne's potential is unrivalled. He goes backwards while aging, however it concerns only his positioning on the pitch. You know what's coming when he gets 40?!
 
But what a defender he could be for us. Ricardo Carvalho is 38 and still plays with good effect at a top french club as well as in national team. Wayne's potential is unrivalled. He goes backwards while aging, however it concerns only his positioning on the pitch. You know what's coming when he gets 40?!

In all seriousness does no one remember years ago when it was revealed he was pretty useful in nets? There was even that Nike advert with him kicking the goalkeeper out, taking the gloves and then running the entire pitch with the ball to score.



Headline in 2020 - "Wayne Rooney might just be the goalkeeper United need!"
 
In all seriousness does no one remember years ago when it was revealed he was pretty useful in nets? There was even that Nike advert with him kicking the goalkeeper out, taking the gloves and then running the entire pitch with the ball to score.



Headline in 2020 - "Wayne Rooney might just be the goalkeeper United need!"


His past boxing training and sparrings with premier league players will do him world of good when he finally takes on the gloves. Goalkeeper gloves I mean.

On a bit more serious note: my, my, how fast was he when they were making that advert. Sigh...
 
In all seriousness does no one remember years ago when it was revealed he was pretty useful in nets? There was even that Nike advert with him kicking the goalkeeper out, taking the gloves and then running the entire pitch with the ball to score.



Headline in 2020 - "Wayne Rooney might just be the goalkeeper United need!"


Disgusting to see Cantona being dubbed. His real voice makes me so happy.
 
How did we get to the point where a player can be as bad as he was for the first half of the season and still come out of it talking about a new contract?
 
New contract!!!

He has 3 years to run on his current one and he's 30 years of age. Get real Wayne, see the contract out, maybe you will get an extra year at the end of it.
 
Giggs played on a club-friendly rolling contract at a reasonable wage. He never was a guaranteed starter nor a passenger in the team during those years. He kept himself in excellent physical condition through hard work and banging plenty of young women. There is simply no comparison.
 
How did we get to the point where a player can be as bad as he was for the first half of the season and still come out of it talking about a new contract?

:lol: It's insane isn't it. He has no shame. Even if he was playing decently (and I mean decently, not outrageously well to fit his 300k price tag) he's nowhere close the end of the current one.
 
Did I read the article differently? And I see one even came up with a made up quotation:lol:.

Personally, he should be given a chance to see out his contract. But to give a new one is crazy, he is already the highest paid player in the squad. Or maybe he is willing to get lower wage for a longer contract? (Which is doubful).
 
Probably sees himself as United owner in a few years time.

Jokes aside I was just about making peace with him not being such a clusterfeck in midfield so far, then he comes out with this.

If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.

Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.

Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.

That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.

Even now, when anyone who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.

England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.

That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.

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Although given the dogs abuse Cristinao Ronaldo (!) was getting last night - overrated, not one of the best of his generation, a glorified RvN, a poacher who offers nothing else, selfish, a big game bottle job, etc - perhaps it's just time to give up altogether on expecting a half way sensible or moderate discussion about certain players.
 
If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.

Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.

Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.

That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.

Even now, when anyone can who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.

England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.

That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.

I seriously think not all of those who slated Rooney for what he said in the article read it.
 
I seriously think not all of those who slated Rooney for what he said in the article read it.

Yeah, here's exactly what Rooney is quoted as saying in the article:

'I have a contract at the club that I want to see out and wouldn’t be against extending it - but that’s up to the club . . . All players’ games develop and change over time - look at Giggsy towards the end of his career compared to the beginning. What I can say is I will continue to develop my game and adapt and improve throughout. Over time and with experience, you see the game and experience the game differently, which leads to different decisions. I think my record shows I have always enjoyed assisting goals as much as scoring them and I also enjoy the involvement from deeper positions'.

Now here's what the Usual Suspects pretend he said:

'I demand a contract extension and a pay rise, because i'm exactly like Ryan Giggs was, and will easily be as good, if not better'.

And then based on their own misrepresentation of his words, they proceed to slate him.
 
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SAF/Moyes/LvG/Hodgson rated him. All reports say Mourinho rates him. Going out on a limb to say they all know better than any of us.

I'll freely admit to being a Rooney fanboy. I love the way he plays and always have. He should no longer be viewed as undroppable. He has regressed after a Legendary career for our favorite squad.

That said comparing him to Kroos/Modric is a little silly. Were he that effective, with his marketing reach, £300k a week would be a bargain. Side Note: why should I care what the owners of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers spend in the roster? It's not like a salary cap exists or his wage is inhibiting transfers.

He has, I think objectively, performed at big club level in his new role. (ONLY AGAINST CRAP TEAMS scream some. ......need I remind you it was crap teams that we struggled against the last two years? ) His all around game makes me optimistic he'll be spraying Hollywood balls to the right for 2 more seasons.

If he's ineffective next year then we can move on. If he's good in the MF the haters will continue to hate.......and eventually they'll be right.....not good enough for United.
 
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If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.

Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.

Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.

That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.

Even now, when anyone who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.

England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.

That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.

EDIT:

Although given the dogs abuse Cristinao Ronaldo (!) was getting last night - overrated, not one of the best of his generation, a glorified RvN, a poacher who offers nothing else, selfish, a big game bottle job, etc - perhaps it's just time to give up altogether on expecting a half way sensible or moderate discussion about certain players.
name me one top side across Europe who would even consider having a 30+ Rooney in their midfield, let alone offer him several years there
 
name me one top side across Europe who would even consider having a 30+ Rooney in their midfield, let alone offer him several years there

Manchester United.

(Although it remains to be seen where or even if he plays under Mourinho. Just didn't see the need to slate him for what were perfectly reasonable comments)
 
If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.

Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.

Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.

That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.

Even now, when anyone who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.

England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.

That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.

EDIT:

Although given the dogs abuse Cristinao Ronaldo (!) was getting last night - overrated, not one of the best of his generation, a glorified RvN, a poacher who offers nothing else, selfish, a big game bottle job, etc - perhaps it's just time to give up altogether on expecting a half way sensible or moderate discussion about certain players.

He's hardly going to get game time as a midfielder, or at all for that matter, at any other major clubs, is he?
 
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That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges.
Yeah, you carry on believing that if it makes you feel better.
 
Could have said the same about after 30 years Scholes and Giggs.
Giggs was always linked with Italian sides (Juventus, Inter). Don't remember much about Scholes but we are talking a guy who continually said he had zero interest in leaving Manchester.
 
Yeah, you carry on believing that if it makes you feel better.

I really don't think it's a leap to suggest a lot of fans footballing opinion of Rooney is influenced as much by his persona and history than his actual performances and statistics.

On both the positive and negative sides of course.
 
New contract!!!

He has 3 years to run on his current one and he's 30 years of age. Get real Wayne, see the contract out, maybe you will get an extra year at the end of it.

Only post that needs reading on here really. Would be true insanity to even dream of any new contract, unless it massively reduced the wage. But then why would he sign it?
 
I really don't think it's a leap to suggest a lot of fans footballing opinion of Rooney is influenced as much by his persona and history than his actual performances and statistics.

On both the positive and negative sides of course.
True enough, mate. But my problem is with some people's claim that such knee-jerk/shallow opinions represent all Rooney criticism.

Curiously enough, the shift in opinions regarding Giggs has been even more violent lately, I reckon.
 
I really don't think it's a leap to suggest a lot of fans footballing opinion of Rooney is influenced as much by his persona and history than his actual performances and statistics.

On both the positive and negative sides of course.
very odd thing to say after the season he's just had, and being ousted from his natural game
 
True enough, mate. But my problem is with some people's claim that such knee-jerk/shallow opinions represent all Rooney criticism.

Curiously enough, the shift in opinions regarding Giggs has been even more violent lately, I reckon.

That's this thread in a nutshell though. You have people who can criticise and praise Rooney with objectivity, but in the main it's lunatics at either end laughing at and abusing each other stating their own opinion as fact and labelling opposite viewpoints as laughable or delusion. Seeking any excuse to either big up or tear a United player/captain/legend down.

On Giggs and Scholes I thought both should have been replaced long before they retired or transisioned deeper, at stages I was pulling my hair out with Fergie failing to strengthen midfield and constantly relying on what I thought were over the hill players.

In both instances I think I was wrong looking back, they were both so valuable even in their final seasons, so I won't rush to be rid of Rooney - who I don't even think is in that kind of decline yet.
 
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