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Naah, he's smart. It's our decision makers who'd be lunatics if they agree to his demandIf it's true, he's lunatic.
Naah, he's smart. It's our decision makers who'd be lunatics if they agree to his demandIf it's true, he's lunatic.
Tell us another blatant lie.
He's been in and out of midfield for the past three seasons and had a few experiments under Ferguson too.
And have I just read some gossip that there's talk of a new fecking contract?! Jesus fecking christ, this club is going down the tubes.
So, he's not really excellent when you compare him with actual midfielders, he is just playing well for a player who is playing in a new position?
Judging by his midfield M.O., this'll mean that he starts off in the OT toilets before gradually ambling his way up to the Manager's office, and then he'll constantly throw contracts out of the right-hand window.Player for the next 3 years, then player/manager role, brilliant!
now mentioning extending a contract after getting plaudits against relegation fodder and Russia/Wales. He doesn't miss a trick does heNaah, he's smart. It's our decision makers who'd be lunatics if they agree to his demand
Judging by his midfield M.O., this'll mean that he starts off in the OT toilets before gradually ambling his way up to the Manager's office, and then he'll constantly throw contracts out of the right-hand window.
Would be so funny if it was happening to one of our rivals instead!now mentioning extending a contract after getting plaudits against relegation fodder and Russia/Wales. He doesn't miss a trick does he
I'm a fan of Rooney, think he has a lot to offer us this season and next under Mourinho, but that's as far as it goes for me. Extending his contract in the Messi/Ronaldo wage he's on would be lunacy.
But what a defender he could be for us. Ricardo Carvalho is 38 and still plays with good effect at a top french club as well as in national team. Wayne's potential is unrivalled. He goes backwards while aging, however it concerns only his positioning on the pitch. You know what's coming when he gets 40?!
In all seriousness does no one remember years ago when it was revealed he was pretty useful in nets? There was even that Nike advert with him kicking the goalkeeper out, taking the gloves and then running the entire pitch with the ball to score.
Headline in 2020 - "Wayne Rooney might just be the goalkeeper United need!"
In all seriousness does no one remember years ago when it was revealed he was pretty useful in nets? There was even that Nike advert with him kicking the goalkeeper out, taking the gloves and then running the entire pitch with the ball to score.
Headline in 2020 - "Wayne Rooney might just be the goalkeeper United need!"
why isn't he concerned about the level of the team anymore?
How did we get to the point where a player can be as bad as he was for the first half of the season and still come out of it talking about a new contract?
Probably sees himself as United owner in a few years time.Probably sees himself as United manager in a few years time.
Probably sees himself as United owner in a few years time.
Jokes aside I was just about making peace with him not being such a clusterfeck in midfield so far, then he comes out with this.
If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.
Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.
Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.
That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.
Even now, when anyone can who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.
England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.
That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.
I seriously think not all of those who slated Rooney for what he said in the article read it.
'I have a contract at the club that I want to see out and wouldn’t be against extending it - but that’s up to the club . . . All players’ games develop and change over time - look at Giggsy towards the end of his career compared to the beginning. What I can say is I will continue to develop my game and adapt and improve throughout. Over time and with experience, you see the game and experience the game differently, which leads to different decisions. I think my record shows I have always enjoyed assisting goals as much as scoring them and I also enjoy the involvement from deeper positions'.
'I demand a contract extension and a pay rise, because i'm exactly like Ryan Giggs was, and will easily be as good, if not better'.
name me one top side across Europe who would even consider having a 30+ Rooney in their midfield, let alone offer him several years thereIf you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.
Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.
Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.
That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.
Even now, when anyone who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.
England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.
That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.
EDIT:
Although given the dogs abuse Cristinao Ronaldo (!) was getting last night - overrated, not one of the best of his generation, a glorified RvN, a poacher who offers nothing else, selfish, a big game bottle job, etc - perhaps it's just time to give up altogether on expecting a half way sensible or moderate discussion about certain players.
name me one top side across Europe who would even consider having a 30+ Rooney in their midfield, let alone offer him several years there
Could have said the same about after 30 years Scholes and Giggs.name me one top side across Europe who would even consider having a 30+ Rooney in their midfield
If you have a problem with him saying 'I'd like to extend my contract if the club want me, and am trying hard to improve myself as a player', then frankly, there's no pleasing you. Which, of course, there isn't when it comes to Wayne Rooney.
Gets slated for asking to leave and apparently thinking he's too good for the club.
Gets slated for expressing a desire to stay and develop his game as a midfielder.
That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious, and has been for a few years.
Even now, when anyone who's watched the games can see that, yes, he *has* been one of England's better players in this tournament - if not their best - people are still quick to come on here to try and take him down a peg or two.
England's record goal scorer - a phenomenal sporting achievement, by any measure - is now playing well in midfield in a major tournament. For me, that's the mark of a very classy and talented player indeed.
That there is is any doubt that this is exactly what Wayne Rooney has been, and what he still is - even if in a different way - shows just how irrational, bizarre and ugly the debate around him has been allowed to get.
EDIT:
Although given the dogs abuse Cristinao Ronaldo (!) was getting last night - overrated, not one of the best of his generation, a glorified RvN, a poacher who offers nothing else, selfish, a big game bottle job, etc - perhaps it's just time to give up altogether on expecting a half way sensible or moderate discussion about certain players.
Yeah, you carry on believing that if it makes you feel better.NessunDorma said:That's why some of us think, when it comes to this player, the criticism is less about his performances than it is about personal dislike and grudges.
Pep said he would have had Scholes at Barca in 2011, he was around 35 thenCould have said the same about after 30 years Scholes and Giggs.
Giggs was always linked with Italian sides (Juventus, Inter). Don't remember much about Scholes but we are talking a guy who continually said he had zero interest in leaving Manchester.Could have said the same about after 30 years Scholes and Giggs.
Yeah, you carry on believing that if it makes you feel better.
why isn't he concerned about the level of the team anymore?
New contract!!!
He has 3 years to run on his current one and he's 30 years of age. Get real Wayne, see the contract out, maybe you will get an extra year at the end of it.
True enough, mate. But my problem is with some people's claim that such knee-jerk/shallow opinions represent all Rooney criticism.I really don't think it's a leap to suggest a lot of fans footballing opinion of Rooney is influenced as much by his persona and history than his actual performances and statistics.
On both the positive and negative sides of course.
very odd thing to say after the season he's just had, and being ousted from his natural gameI really don't think it's a leap to suggest a lot of fans footballing opinion of Rooney is influenced as much by his persona and history than his actual performances and statistics.
On both the positive and negative sides of course.
True enough, mate. But my problem is with some people's claim that such knee-jerk/shallow opinions represent all Rooney criticism.
Curiously enough, the shift in opinions regarding Giggs has been even more violent lately, I reckon.
very odd thing to say after the season he's just had, and being ousted from his natural game