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2015-16 Performances

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41
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15
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6
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pascell said:
Seems like most people have found their scapegoat for the season.
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Never understand posts like this. Why is he a "scapegoat" because people (quite rightly) are calling him out on his poor form?.

If Rooney played at his top level we would probably of won 3/4-0 yesterday, but the fact is everytime he got the ball he either took a heavy touch, played a poor pass, or just stood there facing the ball wanting it to feet. As the lead striker you need to make runs in behind a defence, and he barely did that in the first half. the 2nd half he attempted it a few times only to be offside pretty much every time. The 1 time he did get through his donkey like touch took it away from goal and into the corner :lol:

It really is sad to see as Rooney should rightly be remembered as a club legend, but I fear we are stuck playing him as our captain and club calisman. At 1 stage in his career the team just didn't play well without Rooney, now it almost seems the opposite.
 
Disappointing last night. Still don't know why we haven't bought a young striker to be a back up or eventually replace him once he gets older. Sometimes top players need competition to keep them on their toes. The thing is that his place in the team is so certain that it is leading up to a bit of complacency. Hernandez hasn't played a lot of football for us and Wilson is still young so striking positions are a bit of a worry.
 
Was awful last night and looked well off the pace, I am sure he will improve as his form fluctuates up and down massively.

I really cant understand why we were so eager to sell RVP though, he is now our only genuine option in that role and it really doesn't look like a striker will be joining.
 
pascell said:
Seems like most people have found their scapegoat for the season.
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feck off with this scapegoat bullshit. If a player plays like the biggest Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime on this earth then the supporters have every right to point this out.
 
It's crazy when you think we pay him in the same bracket as Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Aguero, Hazard, Bale etc. How long has it been since he performed at that level or had their sort of impact.
 
Ixion said:
It's crazy when you think we pay him in the same bracket as Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Aguero, Hazard, Bale etc. How long has it been since he performed at that level or had their sort of impact.
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He's never reached the heights of at least four of those players, but probably 2011/12 season.
 
Summit said:
In your opinion did he play well?
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No far from it, he's been off the boil all pre season. But I've got confidence that give him a few games to get into his stride and he'll come good.
Other players had spells where their touch was awful and passes went astray, like Mata, Memphis and Schneiderlin but they're not getting scrutinised on here.
We all know Rooney is the sort of player that comes deep and always wants the ball but he can't do that as he's leading the line. We also play a style of football that means the striker doesn't always see the ball and we keep possession in midfield and defence, so his sharpness is certainly off.
 
pascell said:
No far from it, he's been off the boil all pre season. But I've got confidence that give him a few games to get into his stride and he'll come good.
Other players had spells where their touch was awful and passes went astray, like Mata, Memphis and Schneiderlin but they aren't getting scrutinised on here.
We all know Rooney is the sort of player that comes deep and always wants the ball but he can't do that as he's leading the line. We also play a style of football that means the striker doesn't always see the ball and we keep possession in midfield and defence, so his sharpness is certainly off.
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And that is basically what people are saying. He was shit, there are no two ways about it, no one is using him as a scapegoat ffs.
 
Reminded me of his performance at Swansea a few years back. Nothing he did all night worked.

Hope he can play his way into form quickly. Starting Tuesday.

I do think van Gaal will be watching this closely though. If a decent striker comes available in the next fortnight, I'm sure we'll move for them.
 
Rooney was poor but he's not really been playing as a striker like strikers should. Most of his touches last night were on our half.
I don't know if the system is wrong or why he drops so deep to participate in the build-up, but he shouldnt have to do that at all. At least not when we're playing only one striker.
 
Only five of our players performed last night most were guff (Rooney included) Memphis was shockingly bad, Januzaj was terrible apart from the goal, Herrara was awful when he came on. Lets put things into perspective..Yes Rooney was bad last night but some players were just as worse, he's the lone striker, where was the service? The game as a whole was awful to watch and the performance was mind numbingly bad apart from our defence/DF midfield, the lone striker expects chances to be created for him which just wasn't happening! I'm just happy we were solid at the back and we have the three points, I'm staying positive though as it may take a few games for the team to click. Rooney was bad and people have the right to question his performance but I don't see the same people giving the other handful of players the same treatment.
 
The United Irishman said:
Only five of our players performed last night most were guff (Rooney included) Memphis was shockingly bad, Januzaj was terrible apart from the goal, Herrara was awful when he came on. Lets put things into perspective..Yes Rooney was bad last night but some players were just as worse, he's the lone striker, where was the service? The game as a whole was awful to watch and the performance was mind numbingly bad apart from our defence/DF midfield, the lone striker expects chances to be created for him which just wasn't happening! I'm just happy we were solid at the back and we have the three points, I'm staying positive though as it may take a few games for the team to click. Rooney was bad and people have the right to question his performance but I don't see the same people giving the other handful of players the same treatment.
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People single Wayne out because he's our captain, at his peak age, gets paid more than all our other players and is the only player in the squad who is guranteed a place in the starting XI no matter what. At least Memphis can say he's new to the league and he and Januzaj are still really young.
 
Rooney reminds me of that one guy who sees others playing the ball well to eachother, everything connects and then wants to get involved while it's not his job to do so. Does it anyway and screws it up.
The tweet posted by @Baxter on page 26 illustrates it.
 
Cassidy said:
Awaits answer with some popcorn....
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Has anyone made a compilation of last night's performance yet?
 
Ixion said:
People single Wayne out because he's our captain, at his peak age, gets paid more than all our other players and is the only player in the squad who is guranteed a place in the starting XI no matter what. At least Memphis can say he's new to the league and he and Januzaj are still really young.
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That's fine I understand much much more is expected of Rooney, but he still needs service and other players have a responsibility to supply that service to the striker. Van Nistlerooy came from the Dutch league to a new league and blew us all away because the team created chances for him. Januzaj is now in his third season with the firsts but I still see no improvement in his all round game, When I see Januzaj on the ball I instantly think of McGeady because he's just as fustrating. How many chances were created last night? It doesn't matter who was up front for us be it Muller, Lewandowski etc.. they would have been just as ineffective as Rooney!
 
The United Irishman said:
That's fine I understand much much more is expected of Rooney, but he still needs service and other players have a responsibility to supply that service to the striker. Van Nistlerooy came from the Dutch league to a new league and blew us all away because the team created chances for him. Januzaj is now in his third season with the firsts but I still see no improvement in his all round game, When I see Januzaj on the ball I instantly think of McGeady because he's just as fustrating. How many chances were created last night? It doesn't matter who was up front for us be it Muller, Lewandowski etc.. they would have been just as ineffective as Rooney!
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No, the leading striker holds up, like Nistelrooy did, brings the creative players into the game high up the pitch and reaps the rewards afterwards. The striker is a part of the service you could say. Rooney's ability to make the play ticking around him is highly suspect to say the least. And just look at that time he had a decent opportunity to be through on goal in the latter stages. His pace, touch, technique all were wrong so he eventually put it out for a throw-in.
 
People single him out because he was the worst of them all. His technique was hilariously bad and even when he had time to pick a pass he managed to clown it up.
 
The United Irishman said:
That's fine I understand much much more is expected of Rooney, but he still needs service and other players have a responsibility to supply that service to the striker. Van Nistlerooy came from the Dutch league to a new league and blew us all away because the team created chances for him. Januzaj is now in his third season with the firsts but I still see no improvement in his all round game, When I see Januzaj on the ball I instantly think of McGeady because he's just as fustrating. How many chances were created last night? It doesn't matter who was up front for us be it Muller, Lewandowski etc.. they would have been just as ineffective as Rooney!
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Fanboyism at its finest
 
if we can build up our team around rooney, buying messi, ronaldo & bale to provide service to him, rooney will shine
 
The United Irishman said:
It doesn't matter who was up front for us be it Muller, Lewandowski etc.. they would have been just as ineffective as Rooney!
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No I think that is going way to easy on Wayne, there were a few times he was in acres of space with the ball and messed up our attacks or a ball was played to him and his control let him down and the chance was gone, it's not fair to say that would have happened with any other striker. Rooney at his best is much better than we saw last night.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if him and Louis fall out at some point this season.
 
Completely rubbish yesterday, that was one of his worst ever performances for me.

We desperately need a striker, having to rely on Rooney in this type of form will feck us over in the long run.
 
Sticking him on the bench for a game and giving the armband to Schweinsteiger for a few games would probably be the kick up the arse he needs.

He'll score a hattrick on Tuesday though after all this.
 
Yesterday was especially bad but I honestly think he's been average to poor for a good few years.

It's only now the goals have dried up that more and more people seem to be noticing it. Unless he pops up with a goal he offers very little and last night he offered nothing.

Think he's scored 4 goals from open play in 2015 for Utd.
 
Watching last nights game, I'd have just given him an early bath! he played awful but it happens and there is no harm subbing him just after an hour.

But i'm not sure if Wilson or Hernandez are fit. So the reshuffle without those might have looked a bit crazy on paper.
 
That chance at the end, when he was clean through after Schweini found him - how the feck did he even manage to not get a chance out of that? He was all clear, the ball was bouncing perfectly for him and then that touch with his head. I mean fecking hell.
 
Rooney looks to me as though he is playing with the weight of the world on his shoulders. I think we are looking at a man who feels like the goalscoring burden is on his shoulders and he doesn't like it.

Despite what he may claim Rooney has almost always suffered when he is concious of the expectations on him. He is at his best when he just doesn't think too much about his game and plays off the cuff. In short, when he doesn't think. Has the look to me of someone who is playing preoccupied. There was a moment where I think Blind fizzed a nice pass forward to his feet, and instead of trapping it Rooney unintentionally let the ball run under his foot. He's not playing his natural game, he's tense. You could see that by how he hesitated when clean through against Spurs. Fortunately Walker helped him out that day.

Had he not played at #9 for Van Gaal last season I'd suggest it was the tactical demands that had messed with his head, but I actually think he's troubled by the headlines. He knows that people are measuring him up next to Suarez, Aguero and Costa and thinking 'you're not that' and I think it bothers him. You could see the frustration starting to boil over late last night when he started needlessly ranting at the other players.

Bruges will be a big match for Rooney. If he can hit the back of the net he might loosen up and start playing with a bit of freedom. The longer he goes without scoring a goal, the more it will weigh on him though.
 
This is rooneys level now and has been for a while.
People tried to make excuses for him, "oh he needs 5/6 games to hit form".. "Oh he's out of position"... Why not just accept he's finished at the top level?
The problem we have is we have to play him due to his wages , the captaincy, and the fact he's Rooney.
It's ultimately up to Lvg and the question of does he have balls the size of fergie to drop or either get rid of this guy? So far id say not at all. Rooney doesn't even get subbed even though week in week out he's the worse performer on the pitch.
 
He looked lost last night, almost like he wasn't playing the same game as the players around him. Like some have said already, I don't think he is playing in a system or position that suits his natural game but that is no excuse for getting the basics consistently wrong. It was hard to even see/imagine what he was trying at times.

I seem to remember he did have a decent moment on the left touchline in the second half but none of his team mates, in expectation of him cocking it up I suppose, bothered to support him. If he continues to play in a similar vein and still gets selected week in week out then it will cause more than on-field problems for the team.

Things don't look good for Hernandez if he isn't brought on when our Rooney is so clearly "off-form". Even on his worst link-up day Hernandez is at least a nuisance with his movement and occupies defenders.
 
Playing without thinking might be a problem, because Van Gaal specifically said he doesn't like his players doing that.
 
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