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2015-16 Performances

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5.6 Season Average Rating
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41
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15
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Shocking peformance. His all round game was just unbelievably bad. And if top it off when he got in behind them, his touch forced him to kick the ball out for a throw in.

If he keeps this form up he'll serioudly hold us back. Only so long a team can win games without a centre forward.

Hopefully he bags a couple in his next game and it elevates his entire game because the current level is simply nowhere near being decent forget what United need.
 
santeria13 said:
As much as I love LVG's honesty when it comes to performances, this really did infuriate me. Everyone is hung out to dry/sold/dropped as a consequence of their performances/actions except for our captain. He did mention Rooney and Depay also lost the ball a a lot but the comment he made about Januzaj and there being a lot more to football than goals was a bit OTT considering he got us the winning goal in this case and the fact that a much more experienced and highly rated Rooney has been consistently guilty of the same thing for the past 3 years or so. By that I mean, being productive but generally playing like shit. Now that he's not scoring either, you would expect harsher judgment considering he is so keen to dish it out on and punish anybody else.

I am usually the first to stick up for and defend LVG but his preferential treatment of Rooney is really beginning to tire me, and most other supporters by the look of it. There's no way a man with such attention to detail and ability to harshly judge players cannot see his shortcomings. I'm beginning to feel there is more to it than meets the eye and have laughed at posters for suggesting such a thing in the past. Hopefully he is dropped soon if this continues and my suspicions turn out to be as ridiculous as they sound.
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The Januzaj stuff was classic man management. You hear it all the time. Managers try to put a damper on the hype, to keep a young player grounded.

There was no need or point to criticising Rooney. Anyone who watched the game knew he was awful, as did Rooney himself. So what's the point in criticising him in public?
 
I have a feeling that lvg is kinda like me, when he comments and critize means he still care and expect improvement. I think he... Like last season simply gives rvp all the time to prove him wrong, and when he fails ship him out.

Besides, rooney is 30 and senior player, nothing needs to be said,, i dont think he handles critic well. It could havr been just me, but i believe the team arent giving him feck all, he looks like those nerd boys nobody would want to pass to. He's just cruising around clogging the central mid allowing the cb to push up and congested the mid while imho he should be lurking behind for a break and occupy the cb with nonstop movement.

And his performance last night was utter shit. Even championship player dont make that schoolboy error, i dont even think a good passionate schoolboy would make that mistake, let alone captain of Manchester United on 300k wage
 
Give him time. He's played as a support striker for 4 seasons now. Give him some time to reshape his game to lead the line. He hasn't had this role since 2010.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Shocking peformance. His all round game was just unbelievably bad. And if top it off when he got in behind them, his touch forced him to kick the ball out for a throw in.

If he keeps this form up he'll serioudly hold us back. Only so long a team can win games without a centre forward.

Hopefully he bags a couple in his next game and it elevates his entire game because the current level is simply nowhere near being decent forget what United need.
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Although I'm buzzing with a win and another solid performance I agree with this completely. Rooney is not the same player he was and I'd imagine doesn't scare defenders the way he used to. I'd rather see Hernandez or Wilson using their pace as opposed to seeing Rooney plodding around contributing nothing again. We need to be able to make the decision to drop Rooney if his form doesn't improve - shouldn't the captain (and highest earner) be our best player every week and not just after he's got back in the swing of things over a month after everyone else has already finished pre season.
 
izzydiggler said:
Usual trend with Rooney - 5/6 games at the beginning of the season to get fit, another 5/6 game streak of woeful performances at some point but in-between he'll grab 15-20 goals and have a few incredible games.

Until we sign someone better, it'll do.
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This is Rooneys 12th season with us. In that time hes only scored more than 20 goals twice: 09/10(scored 26) and 11/12(scored 27)
And hes only scored more than 15 goals , four times( that includes the above 20 also)

So in 8 seasons hes scored less than 15 goals, So I dont understand where people ae getting this notion he`ll get into form and bang in 15-20 goals as always

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.career-history.html/wayne-rooney
 
Wayne is not in any way good enough to play as a number 9. Not sure if he's ever been a centre forward. His form has been worrying for some time and, he has little competition for his position. Our striker situation will hamper us this season and if LVG refuses to buy a top class CF we'll win nothing.
 
Salfordlad70 said:
Wayne is not in any way good enough to play as a number 9. Not sure if he's ever been a centre forward. His form has been worrying for some time and, he has little competition for his position. Our striker situation will hamper us this season and if LVG refuses to buy a top class CF we'll win nothing.
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Even if he did sign a new CF, would he drop his captain?
 
As others have said, his bottom level basically makes us play with 10 men.

Not good enough for a Manchester United striker.

As our captain and probably highest earner he's a complete joke, though.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was absolutely shite last night and only slightly better against Spurs but the some of the catastrophisation in this thread is laughable. Typical redcafe. Everything is so fecking extreme.
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Rooney's bottom level is fecking extreme.

He's not been consistently good for us since 11/12. And he's not good enough to be our solitary hope as a striker.

Also, what's annoying is that he's not going to be dropped no matter how lacklustre his performances are because of LVG's captain thing.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was absolutely shite last night and only slightly better against Spurs but the some of the catastrophisation in this thread is laughable. Typical redcafe. Everything is so fecking extreme.
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Id love for someone to make a video of all his touches/contribution in the game yesterday and you watch it, then explain it.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, as I was saying...
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Do you honestly think Rooney's current level is good enough for a team trying to win the title? Because that's the bar at United. Always will be.

Can we afford a striker effectively reducing us to 10 men for large portions of the season? Because that's what we're getting with Rooney.

Of course, I'm holding him to a higher standard than most when judging him - he's supposed to be our captain and is our highest earner, he's the go to-guy, our spearhead - and he's not lived up to that role since he blackmailed his way to a new contract.
 
He's not played really well since boxing day against Newcastle. When he was in midfield oddly enough.

Even during our great
run last season, he was fecking rubbish at Anfield and in the Derby. A supposed top class player shouldn't be having 6 months of poor to average performances.
 
He really needs to buck up now. The best thing that can happen to him is competition for places. Right now he knows that he will feature even if he turns up completely sloshed.

Looking at the ruthlessness with which RVP was shipped off, I have a feeling that it wouldn't take a lot to get into the "not up to the mark" category.
 
Salfordlad70 said:
This is the issue Van G. He won't although he should.That said, there is currently no no alternative to Rooney. Hernandez is not an option for that role and neither is Wilson.
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It would be interesting to see how Hernandez did with all the creativity behind him and Wilson and Januzaj would probably link up quite well considering the amount of games they have already played in together although it would make our team much more lightweight up top.

I'll be buzzing to see one of Hernandez or Wilson lining up against Brugge but I'd be surprised if Rooney doesn't play the Newcastle game, we should have let Rooney go when we had the chance and brought in Zlatan for a few years - I'd still do this now being honest.
 
Right now I'd throw in Hernandez. He was good when he got a run for Madrid last season. He stretches defences, got pace and can finish.

Also, the way Rooney's playing right now, it's not like we're in for a huge loss in overall contribution to our build up.
 
marjen said:
Right now I'd throw in Hernandez. He was good when he got a run for Madrid last season. He stretches defences, got pace and can finish.

Also, the way Rooney's playing right now, it's not like we're in for a huge loss in overall contribution to our build up.
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Might give Rooney a kick up the arse too especially if Hernandez bags a few goals, as you say it doesn't appear as though we would lose much for now.
 
wiz4231 said:
Id love for someone to make a video of all his touches/contribution in the game yesterday and you watch it, then explain it.
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I actually want to see this.

My mate who didn't see the game, looked at his stats and it had a 77.8% pass completion out of 36 actual passes and refused to believe that it was up there with one of his worst days at the office.
 
Rooney needs a goal really. It always boosts his confidence. He always takes time to get into the swing of it. No, he isn't playing well, but he will be the first to hold up his hand on that. He knows his own standards. He's one of those players over the years who has more good periods of playing than bad, so he deserves a bit of patience.
 
FC Ronaldo said:
I actually want to see this.

My mate who didn't see the game, looked at his stats and it had a 77.8% pass completion out of 36 actual passes and refused to believe that it was up there with one of his worst days at the office.
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He did play a bunch of passes backwards at the end of the game.

I don't think being dispossessed or failing to control the ball counts as a bad pass though.
 
roykeane19 said:
This is Rooneys 12th season with us. In that time hes only scored more than 20 goals twice: 09/10(scored 26) and 11/12(scored 27)
And hes only scored more than 15 goals , four times( that includes the above 20 also)

So in 8 seasons hes scored less than 15 goals, So I dont understand where people ae getting this notion he`ll get into form and bang in 15-20 goals as always

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.career-history.html/wayne-rooney
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He's only ever had two seasons as an out and out striker - 09/10 and 11/12. The rest have been somewhere between number 10, wide forward and midfield. He has always been good for a 20+ goals if played in the right position, as he is now. He is also always a slow starter as @izzydiggler says. Give him at least 5 games before we really see if he's past it or not.

Besides, I don't see any Van Nistelrooy's out there at the moment who will guarantee 20+ goals, so we're stuck with him.
 
He's not taking to leading the line very well at the moment.Didn't see much of the ball and when he did recieve it does nothing with it.
 
Salfordlad70 said:
Wayne is not in any way good enough to play as a number 9. Not sure if he's ever been a centre forward. His form has been worrying for some time and, he has little competition for his position. Our striker situation will hamper us this season and if LVG refuses to buy a top class CF we'll win nothing.
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He's not refusing, it is well documented that we've been interested in both Kane and Müller. However, a top class CF is difficult to acquire today.
 
togg said:
Rooney needs a goal really. It always boosts his confidence. He always takes time to get into the swing of it. No, he isn't playing well, but he will be the first to hold up his hand on that. He knows his own standards. He's one of those players over the years who has more good periods of playing than bad, so he deserves a bit of patience.
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Agree on that. Rooney is one of our most important players when on form
 
It's not so much the fact he hasn't had a shot on goal, that's disappinting of course but given we are not really creating much for him atm it's forgivable, for me it's his ball control and passing that is so alarming, a lot of the time he wasn't even under any pressure yet much of his passing was way off and the ball just often bounces off him, ok he's a player that needs to play to find his form, but everything is wrong with him just now.

Sheer lack of options will likely keep him in the team, but would love to Wilson given a chance if this continues much longer though.
 
One touch in the opposition's box the entire game!? If we don't score goals we won't win games, simple as. We need to fix this somehow. Either Rooney stops coming so deep or we let someone else have a chance. Rooney shouldn't be a automatic starter and I hope LvG drops him eventually if he doesn't turn up next game.
 
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