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Chelsea pretty much had to write Torres off.. We might have to do the same.
Take the financial hit. He is on crazy wages. Top teams wont want him. Any other club wont take him.. even on a free.


that said.. he isnt going anywhere till he gets the record.. and that is unlikely this season the way he is playing.
 
Adisa said:
I just think journalists, newspapers and pundits don't want to be seen as barraging Englands captain.
How Neville tried to sidestep his decline when Martin Tyler brought it up was sad to see.
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So Neville didn't say anything of note then?
 
Adisa said:
I just think journalists, newspapers and pundits don't want to be seen as barraging Englands captain.
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They'll wait until England go out and then rush to publish "Wayne Floppy was at Stereophonics gigs at ELEVEN PM when he should've been doing keep-ups!!!!" stories.
 
He's reached the fronkin' Neville Chamberlain stage.
 
Said at the start of the season I didn't think he'd pass Sir Bobby's record, and it is certainly looking that way now. Stan is absolutely spot on with his assessment down to the people that say "he's back" when he scores. I'm amazed he starts for United considering how ruthless LvG is with certain other players, so for this alone I agree with what @Damien suggested in that he has something in his contract that says he plays X amount of games a season. What other excuse is there for him constantly being played?
 
prateik said:
Chelsea pretty much had to write Torres off.. We might have to do the same.
Take the financial hit. He is on crazy wages. Top teams wont want him. Any other club wont take him.. even on a free.


that said.. he isnt going anywhere till he gets the record.. and that is unlikely this season the way he is playing.
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Probably but getting the record with insipid performances would leave a bad taste. It's great to break such a record while still playing well and helping the team.
 
prateik said:
Chelsea pretty much had to write Torres off.. We might have to do the same.
Take the financial hit. He is on crazy wages. Top teams wont want him. Any other club wont take him.. even on a free.


that said.. he isnt going anywhere till he gets the record.. and that is unlikely this season the way he is playing.
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It wont be his choice, he may be a big star but United is a billion dollar business that wont operate at the whims of Wayne Rooney when it gets to the point of being detrimental, we reached that point a few mile markers back there just hasn't been a window open at the convenient time to deal with the problem..
 
Heardy said:
Getting torn apart on talksport right now.
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In the past when he's been criticised he would usually come out fighting - wanting to shut everyone up. Now this is not even working. Same when SAF benched him - it would motivate him, but I think we're past that - his body and mind are just not there anymore. We got ourselves a big problem - or Ed Woodward does.
 
Ive said it before many times but I'll say it again. He's shot. He's been playing top flight football since he was 16! He's 30 now so that's 14 years of top level football.

If we consider that on average a player establishes himself at 22 as a regular. Add 14 years playing time and said player will be 36. A lot of us would agree that at 36, the player would be considered as past it and close, if not already retired, give or take freaks like giggs, zanetti etc.

We need to see Rooney in the same light. Perhaps 'past it' might sound a bit crude, but in footballing years, he is and he needs to retire, if not from the game entirely then from the top level at least.
 
At Leicester he was inside the box and you thought if he took a touch and blasted a shot it would have a decent chance of going in. But he was lumbering with the ball at his feet, he knew he didn't have the pace or the strength to get past the defender...I think it was Robert Huth. He just passed his back because he knew he was going to lose it.

Whatever peoples opinions of LVG are he's not telling them to pass it when they're in the position he was. It was just a small moment, but they all add up and point to his decline.
 
Just how powerful is he as a commercial machine?

If he continues playing shit, will people want to buy his shirt or his products. Will companies want to be associated with a fading star who can no longer keep with the pace?

Also he's not sexy like Becks or Ronaldo so it's not like he can still be a model in spite of how well he does on the pitch. The younger kids won't look up to him much either (they'll idolise Kane, Neymar, Bale, Reus), he's a player of the past now, the ones who grew up with Rooney are now in their 20s.
 
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horsechoker said:
Just how powerful is he a commercial machine?

If he continues playing shit, will people want to buy his shirt or his products. Will companies want to be associated with a fading star who can no longer keep with the pace?

Also he's not sexy like Becks or Ronaldo so it's not like he can still be a model in spite of how well he does on the pitch. The younger kids won't look up to him much either (they'll idolise Kane, Neymar, Bale, Reus), he's a player of the past now, the ones who grew up with Rooney are now in their 20s.
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I've been wondering about this as well. Of course we have no way of knowing I don't think. But I can't understand how he can have this enduring marketability. In any case, it will start to decline pretty swiftly if he continues like this. That might be the time the suits at OT start panicking and wanting him out asap.
 
I'm in stitches listening to talksport:lol: He's been destroyed. It's not only the Caf fed up with him.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
There are plenty of England fans ringing in. They haven't forgot him slagging them off.
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Not surprised - Rooney was quite out of order. Reckon if this gathers anymore steam, Hodgson will drop him before we do.
 
Summit said:
I'm amazed he starts for United considering how ruthless LvG is with certain other players, so for this alone I agree with what @Damien suggested in that he has something in his contract that says he plays X amount of games a season. What other excuse is there for him constantly being played?
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Rooney holds a lot of influence and respect within the squad and IMO VG is hoping that a happy Rooney will mean a happy squad. I think the same goes for Carrick.
 
Gazza said:
More than anything about his game, it's Rooney dropping deeper and deeper that really annoys me. No idea if he is under instruction to do this but it's so infuriating, we don't need him back there and he does nothing useful.

He is so slow on the turn I genuinely can't think of a position that suits him anymore, his flaws are exposed whether he plays No 9, 10, or 6/8 as he seems to do a lot. His first thought these days is on how to hold onto the ball, rather than how he can use the ball in an attacking sense.
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I hate it too. He did it before Van Gaal, so I doubt he has been instructed to.
 
Henry Winter has written an article in the times saying he deserves more respect.
 
Adisa said:
Henry Winter has written an article in the times saying he deserves more respect.
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Using the tribute in that way is a truly cheap and desperate attempt to do some special pleading for Rooney.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Rooney holds a lot of influence and respect within the squad and IMO VG is hoping that a happy Rooney will mean a happy squad. I think the same goes for Carrick.
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If it's that way we have a pussy in the dugout and he needs to make way ASAP, ensuring that the dressing room stays focused under whatever circumstances is a big part of his job but sending the team in a man down from the first minute, every game, is stretching that aspect of his his job a bit too much. In fact handling Rooney with kid gloves hasn't helped him at all, now everyone is taking potshots at him and the longer this continues Rooney's place in the England side will be under threat and he will take the Scholes route - blame Van Gaal's tactics for his fall from grace.
 
He's crap. We need to move him on quick. Qatar, USA. Somewhere like that.

His quality is rapidly dropping. Nevermind tactics he's playing in, his touch, penetration going forward, passing, pace, power, shooting, positioning, it's all shite.

Every week you just know he's going to be crap to average. And you're hoping he just doesnt get in the way. How bad is that ffs...?

I was laughing at Liverpool last season for playing Gerrard, now we're in the same position.
 
He's been abysmal this season, and all the criticism is deserved.

I really hope that he can take a step back, get focused and start performing again after this spell out. I've been very critical of him, but i'd still want to see him back to his best. Until he is though, he shouldn't be starting. The league is wide open this year and we have a shot, but we need to start scoring goals.
 
Has anyone seen what odds you can get on him never breaking Sir Bobby's goalscoring record? On current form, I can't see him doing it, especially if this season is his last. Which could tie in after his testimonial.

A swap deal for Stones?
 
Jose should take up the challenge of reviving him. Replace Costa with Rooney.
 
Adisa said:
https://t.co/ocsnwbL5qc
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I read that this morning over a coffee - a slightly depressing start to the day I have to admit as I initially thought it was a desperate defence of him. But in hindsight it almost reads like a eulogy ie the old Rooney is gone and his time is now coming to an end. The piece is quite damning really in that the focus is entirely on his qualities off the pitch and even, at the end, can state only that he remains a "good" player and nothing more.

Heardy said:
Has anyone seen what odds you can get on him never breaking Sir Bobby's goalscoring record? On current form, I can't see him doing it, especially if this season is his last. Which could tie in after his testimonial.

A swap deal for Stones?
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I've been thinking for a while that maybe Sir Bobby's record will stand. He looks that shot. I think I'd like Bobby to keep the record too.

No way in hell would Everton swap Stones. Even they will see the decline in Rooney so why swap a lad who looks like a future England Captain for the one who is about to bow out?
 
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