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2015-16 Performances

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41
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15
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6
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Adisa said:
The longer he stays at this club with these types of performances, the more damage he does his standing with the fans. I have a 10 year old cousin. When I tell him that Rooney was the best young player I've ever seen, he laughs.
He looks like a boxing champion who comes out of retirement after 10 years to earn one last score.
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Ya, same boat, the Mrs has been trying to get into football lately, she's only been watching a few months and she can't stand him, I keep saying... He used to be really good I swear! the last game vs Leicester when Schweinsteiger gave a pass to Rooney, she actually groaned, loudly. :D
You have to laugh, otherwise you'd cry.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Ya, same boat, the Mrs has been trying to get into football lately, she's only been watching a few months and she can't stand him, I keep saying... He used to be really good I swear! the last game vs Leicester when Schweinsteiger gave a pass to Rooney, she actually groaned, loudly. :D
You have to laugh, otherwise you'd cry.
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Absolutely the worst time to try to get her interested in United, mate.
 
People saying that Rooney is playing like Falcao from last season...Well, this is isn't exactly true.

Falcao scored and assited 8 goals in 1287 min in the PL. That is, he needed 160 min to score/assist a United goal.

Rooney is far worse actually. He's played 1050 min so far and has contributed 2 league goals. In other words, Rooney has needed 525 min to score/assist a league goal.

Has there ever been a United forward with such pathetic end product in the league? Seriously?
 
As bad as those stats are it's actually his overall play (touch, passing, positioning) that has been driving most people mad the last few months. He really does offer nothing these days
 
Treble said:
People saying that Rooney is playing like Falcao from last season...Well, this is isn't exactly true.

Falcao scored and assited 8 goals in 1287 min in the PL. That is, he needed 160 min to score/assist a United goal.

Rooney is far worse actually. He's played 1050 min so far and has contributed 2 league goals. In other words, Rooney has needed 525 min to score/assist a league goal.

Has there ever been a United forward with such pathetic end product in the league? Seriously?
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Yeah, I have been a massive fan of his but the sooner he leaves my club, the better it is. How many goals to the record now?
 
17Larsson said:
As bad as those stats are it's actually his overall play (touch, passing, positioning) that has been driving most people mad the last few months. He really does offer nothing these days
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His overall game hasn't been impressive for years. However, he used to score/assist goals at acceptable level and thus his fans used stats as a stick to beat his critics. Now, his game has deteriorated to such an extent that there is practically no end product. Even now, however, there are fans and pundits willing to blame the system, the manager, the other players, etc. but not Rooney himself. It's amaizing really.
 
CG1010 said:
Yeah, I have been a massive fan of his but the sooner he leaves my club, the better it is. How many goals to the record now?
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13 or 15. Allegedly, Charlton scored 2 goals in official games which haven't been taken into account so far.
 
Treble said:
People saying that Rooney is playing like Falcao from last season...Well, this is isn't exactly true.

Falcao scored and assited 8 goals in 1287 min in the PL. That is, he needed 160 min to score/assist a United goal.

Rooney is far worse actually. He's played 1050 min so far and has contributed 2 league goals. In other words, Rooney has needed 525 min to score/assist a league goal.

Has there ever been a United forward with such pathetic end product in the league? Seriously?
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:lol: Wait, so his output in the league is worse than Falcao's was for us? That's so sad you can only laugh.
 
17Larsson said:
As bad as those stats are it's actually his overall play (touch, passing, positioning) that has been driving most people mad the last few months. He really does offer nothing these days
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That's what i keep telling people. As bad as his stats are, his general play makes for worse reading.
 
Rooney being taken off penalties was a real blow for him. I remember a few seasons ago his defenders would always answer critics by pointing to a relatively good return of goals/assists and those numbers were always propped up by him monopolising set pieces post-Ronaldo. It was like that with Ronaldinho towards the end of his Barcelona days, relying more and more on set pieces because he struggled in open play, and is clearly linked to physical decline.
 
The patience LvG has with him is baffling. This won't happen at Bayern, Barca or Real Madrid nowadays, they'll bench the fecker and sell him.
 
It'll all come to a head soon enough. Either he'll get dropped or the manager will.
 
We all know what is going to happen next.
He is going to get lucky a couple of times in the next 2-3 games and then go back to being rubbish. Just enough to get the press off his back.
 
prateik said:
We all know what is going to happen next.
He is going to get lucky a couple of times in the next 2-3 games and then go back to being rubbish. Just enough to get the press off his back.
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That's the fortunate thing for players who are in a slump: they can always shut critics up by scoring a goal or two, or by playing well; it's up to Wayne.
 
Who would people prefer, Falcao from last year or Rooney of this year?

I actually think I would prefer Falcao :lol:
 
Treble said:
His overall game hasn't been impressive for years. However, he used to score/assist goals at acceptable level and thus his fans used stats as a stick to beat his critics. Now, his game has deteriorated to such an extent that there is practically no end product. Even now, however, there are fans and pundits willing to blame the system, the manager, the other players, etc. but not Rooney himself. It's amaizing really.
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This is so true. I was watching the game with my missus and trying to get her to like the game. At half-time she asked me, "Why do all the players move all the time even when the ball goes to them (pardon the language; I'm quoting), while the captain seems to just stop and stand all the time? And why's he captain if he can't stop the ball properly?" I just had no words to be honest. It was all so true. Watching Rooney against Leicester, it was so clear that he's unable to even receive the ball when moving even slightly. If you're playing as a 9 or a 10, that's absolutely unacceptable.

I have supported LvG throughout - he's tightened up the defence and sorted out the central midfield which had been in crying need of help for years. I don't mind possession-based football. In fact, I quite like to see us take that approach. As I said in September though, Rooney is costing him and the team massively. The position LvG insists on playing him in is integral to linking midfield and attack and right now, the midfielders don't even seem to want to pass to him!
 
midnightmare said:
This is so true. I was watching the game with my missus and trying to get her to like the game. At half-time she asked me, "Why do all the players move all the time even when the ball goes to them (pardon the language; I'm quoting), while the captain seems to just stop and stand all the time? And why's he captain if he can't stop the ball properly?" I just had no words to be honest. It was all so true. Watching Rooney against Leicester, it was so clear that he's unable to even receive the ball when moving even slightly. If you're playing as a 9 or a 10, that's absolutely unacceptable.
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thats really quite telling coming from someone who is just saying what they see. Not tainted by bias either way
 
midnightmare said:
"Why do all the players move all the time even when the ball goes to them (pardon the language; I'm quoting), while the captain seems to just stop and stand all the time? And why's he captain if he can't stop the ball properly?"
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Funny.
So even someone who doesn't watch football was able to spot our weak link.
So, why are LVG and Giggs unable to see this?

Adam-Utd said:
Who would people prefer, Falcao from last year or Rooney of this year?
I actually think I would prefer Falcao :lol:
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I'd choose Rooney.
Falcao is a 5 goals/season* striker.
Rooney is about 8 goals/season* striker.

Lets not forget that Falcao can't even start a game for Chelsea, he is so bad.
The last I saw him starting a game, was in the league cup and though his team scored 4 goals, he could not score any. So, he really hasn't improved. Like Rooney, he remains a non-scoring striker. Totally useless.

*league goals

 
Does his current state make you reevaluate some of the odd things about his game from the past? We hard many times in recent years how Wayne has to "play himself into form" or "needs a run of games" or "is lacking fitness". Were those actually early symptoms of his decline that were blamed on these excuses?
 
I have been firmly on the anti-Rooney side for a while now, starting in 2012/13. I've felt that his bad touches and slow, predictable and inaccurate passing has hindered the team going forward for a couple of seasons.

However I think the hate in these pages is a bit much. At the end of the day, regardless of consequences, it's LvG's job to pick the team and Rooney isn't going to say no when asked to play. Not just does he keep getting picked, he gets sky-high praise too. Either LvG lacks balls or he lacks eyes, and in this insane situation, he should be blamed first. Rooney just can't do much better at this stage. He's trying, I think.
 
Anyone who is watching the Liverpool game tonight, just goes to show that you don't need 4 months to get going. Sturridge and a few other PL strikers come back from injury and start banging the goals in straight away. Is it going to take Wayne another 4th months to get going after getting a slight knock?
 
Gotta appreciate how Sturridge comes back from injury and bangs 2 goals today and Rooney just keeps doing feck all.
 
Slightly related to some of our speculation on why Rooney keeps starting:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ade-chamberlain-plays-20-minutes-8775909.html

Anyone remember this reported about Oxlade-Chamberlain?

If that was true, then it's not inconceivable that we have to pay Rooney a certain amount if he doesn't start. Pretty sure Paul Stretford wouldn't have let a little detail like this slip.

Apologies if it's in the wrong 'Rooney' thread... am losing track:)
 
How much is he out for? Any chance of playing with 11 men these next few games?
 
Jazz said:
Slightly related to some of our speculation on why Rooney keeps starting:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ade-chamberlain-plays-20-minutes-8775909.html

Anyone remember this reported about Oxlade-Chamberlain?

If that was true, then it's not inconceivable that we have to pay Rooney a certain amount if he doesn't start. Pretty sure Paul Stretford wouldn't have let a little detail like this slip.

Apologies if it's in the wrong 'Rooney' thread... am losing track:)
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So, do you think we have to pay him more to not play? As conspiracy theories go this one is a bit left field.
 
acnumber9 said:
So, do you think we have to pay him more to not play? As conspiracy theories go this one is a bit left field.
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Did you actually read what I wrote? I pointed out it was related to some speculation we had on why Rooney keeps starting even though his performances are crap. The point of the link was there was a a 'playing clause' of some sort in Oxlade-Chamberlain's contract - so therefore, it's not totally inconceivable that Rooney might have a 'playing clause'. Obviously relative to his situation, it would differ from Oxlaide-Chamberlain's. However, the point is that if a 'playing clause' existed in his contract, why is it so far-fetched to think that one wouldn't be in Rooney's? That's all I'm saying.
 
The only form wazza's likely to find, is the one he has to park his arse on during games. ( coming soon)
 
Jazz said:
Did you actually read what I wrote? I pointed out it was related to some speculation we had on why Rooney keeps starting even though his performances are crap. The point of the link was there was a a 'playing clause' of some sort in Oxlade-Chamberlain's contract - so therefore, it's not totally inconceivable that Rooney might have a 'playing clause'. Obviously relative to his situation, it would differ from Oxlaide-Chamberlain's. However, the point is that if a 'playing clause' existed in his contract, why is it so far-fetched to think that one wouldn't be in Rooney's? That's all I'm saying.
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Yes. Did you read the article? It was a clause for the selling club for minutes played by a player they sold. It wasn't a clause saying he has to play every minute. What relation does it bare to Rooney?
 
acnumber9 said:
So, do you think we have to pay him more to not play? As conspiracy theories go this one is a bit left field.
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Perhaps, but I do recall that there was a lot of chatter at the time he signed the last contract that the contract's clauses assured him of 3 things:
1. Captaincy, regardless of the manager in charge, as long as he was at the club
2. A say in transfers in terms of whom we signed / let go
3. Assurance that he would start regardless of all else, as long as he was fit an available

Now, I dismissed this as idle speculation by the rags. I'm sure most of us did, at the time. However, since then, the data is telling. He's been captain and remained captain, despite arguably better options being available. He's also seen the club jettison all their striking option other than him and has started and played almost every minute except when injured, despite his horrific form, touch etc.

All in all, I'm not wholly convinced, but the evidence that there's some contractual clause does seem to be mounting...
 
midnightmare said:
Perhaps, but I do recall that there was a lot of chatter at the time he signed the last contract that the contract's clauses assured him of 3 things:
1. Captaincy, regardless of the manager in charge, as long as he was at the club
2. A say in transfers in terms of whom we signed / let go
3. Assurance that he would start regardless of all else, as long as he was fit an available

Now, I dismissed this as idle speculation by the rags. I'm sure most of us did, at the time. However, since then, the data is telling. He's been captain and remained captain, despite arguably better options being available. He's also seen the club jettison all their striking option other than him and has started and played almost every minute except when injured, despite his horrific form, touch etc.

All in all, I'm not wholly convinced, but the evidence that there's some contractual clause does seem to be mounting...
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It sounds extreme but I wouldn't put it past our regime at the time of Moyes+Youngblood Woodward to do something calamitous like that. There were a lot of rumblings of this at the time. And the absurd importance he's given despite poor performances has been jarring and inexplicable. Would be a brilliant bit of opportunism by his agent too taking advantage of our temporary vulnerability. If it is true, then he and his agent have rogered us nice and proper. Going to be a tough one to get out of either way.
 
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