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'Roon-eh! Roon-eh! Roon-eh! You're sh*t, f*ck off!'
Not a chance ? Surely this place hasn't gotten THAT bad.
Just goes to show this criticism goes beyond player performances, it's actually personal in some way. Don't get it, i will back any player who wears the red shirt esp a player that his given a lot to the club and pretty much his career , we have no control over team selection it's upto the manager so we should be behind him.
No he actually does make a lot of bad passes. He does make some good ones too though at time. Good he got the goal, should have actually had 2 but hopefully that gives him some confidence and he kicks on
Why would you want to lock the thread? We have a right to discuss his performances especially given he appears to be undroppable, our captain and on massive wages. This is not North Korea.
I just fecking hate his performance. People have bad days, i dont slag darmian for his mistakes because he made it one game in 10, while rooney has been playing shit for 18mths and people calling it agenda to state the bloody obvious.
At the moment he's a turd, when he scores a goal you might find some burger patty inside the turd, a tiny bit of it, but some people lap it as if he's all wagyu patty. He's still 90 percent turd with 10 percent patty inside. I still call it as it is, a turd
There's no denying that Rooney has been dreadful this season, but he did score a nice goal yesterday. His form is still far from acceptable for a player of his reputation and wages, but I'll take improvement for now and hope better will come.
My stream was in and out, and I missed the first 20 minutes, but I thought he looked quite good. Much more direct and decisive. His goal was very well taken and he didn't do much wrong on the second breakaway - just good defending and keeping.
People forget how much we are paying this guy otherwise they wouldn't be talking up this performance as if it was the reincarnation of George Best. Is this really how far we have fallen? For a guy that gets paid 250k rising to 300k his performances in 2015 have been UNACCEPTABLE because when you demand such a wage and undroppable status your performances should speak for themselves not relying on fanboys posting bogus statistics in an attempt to defend the indefensible. What did his stats do for us when we were being humiliated by Arsenal? With him there is no middle ground because we pay him way too much and the moment he slackens then the RVP/Falcao treatment ought to be applied, period! Berahino or Mane could come and easily better his output and performances, of the last two years, at a quarter of what he earns - that's simply not good enough because such a wage should be reserved for a player that can single handedly transform us into PL and CL contenders.
Loads of people don't want him to beat the goal record meaning they don't want him to score. That is far from calling it as it is, its quite clear a chunk of people on here just don't like him.
Nobody has talked up his performance that much at all.
He looked sharp yesterday, missing both the England games seems to have done him a favour. Perhaps what van Gaal said in his press conference made him realise that he isn't a guaranteed starter.
Great example of how to use stats in a completely useless way
I'll tell you something, watching him yesterday I thought it was George Best reincarnate.
Nonsense, to be fair. I've said only today that 'he's not been great', that 'His all around play has looked insipid at times', that 'he's looked ineffective in quite a few games this season', and that 'if we had someone unarguably better . . . he'd probably be dropped, and rightly so'.
Hardly talking up.
On the other hand, i've also pointed out that his goal scoring record hasn't been that bad; that his passing stats actually compare quite well to the other big name strikers in the league; and that given we're challenging at the top of the league, his performances perhaps haven't been quite as bad as some like to make out, and he may at least be doing *some* things right.
I would call that a fair assessment, in stark contrast to a lot of his critics, who go way overboard in attacking him.
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thats about how I see it too.
It is!
He has scored just 2 goals in 720 games playing as a CF in Premierleague this season. One of them was against shittest team in the league which wasn't even a shot but it bounched of him. But even if it were the nicest goals you'll see that's just 2 goals in 720 minutes which is really poor for Manchester United striker.
He also didn't score in 90 minutes in CL he played.
Martial hasn't scored in 6 starts now for club and country .... that's 0 goals in 540 minutes ... is he shit too?
That post was directly responding to a post on his goalscoring record
I think you'll need to compare their performances first and check that he played wide in half of those games. Also, his all around play was on another planet in comparision to Rooney. He actually asisted few goals too, some of them were incredible assists.
I have no idea how can someone defend Rooney by mentioning Martial, Martial is much much better player than him this season it's not even close.
If I was Rooney fan I would actually be ashamed of even mentioning Martial here.
he did better in the 2nd half. still looks a bit meh.
There are a lot of positives at United right now but his death grip on the side and the looming possibility of Giggs as the next manager are like two dark clouds hanging over the club.
Spin it like that if you want. But on the other hand, he has 6 in his last 8 appearances, and 6 in 12 overall.
So I stick by saying such numbers aren't 'that bad' - Harry Kane wouldn't mind them, i'll bet.
And I wouldn't put it past him to keep on chipping in to the extent that, by the end of the season, he'll have a more than respectable tally.
Yeah, keep on masking his performances however you want as long as it pleases you. You can ask him to be his PR. If you can keep spinning things like that in his favour, I am sure you'll make him feel very special.
He has 6 goals in 12 games, and 6 in his last 8. There's no spin involved at all. Those are simply the raw numbers. And they aren't 'that bad'.
Not great, but not 'bad' either - indeed, before Messi and Ronaldo crazied everything up, a 1 in 2 scoring ratio was regarded as the benchmark for good strikers.
I'm sorry if you don't like it, but perhaps Rooney wouldn't need PR men like me if certain United fans weren't so insistent on behaving like City and Liverpool supporters towards him.
4 of those 6 were against championship level sides, Jamie Vardy is the top scorer in the PL yet would anyone think he is good enough for United? Trying to use purely goals without context and ignoring shitty overall play that hurts the team, as the basis for an argument is pointless.
He has 2 goals in 720 minutes in the Premierleague. 0 i 90 minutes in CL.
Was great discussing with you, cheers.
I haven't seen anyone say that. I've seen plenty (including myself) question if he'll get enough goals this season to break the record.
But then i've openly criticised his all around performances - or at least some of them. I was just saying that his scoring ratio isn't 'that bad', because it isn't.
Some people absolutely will not tolerate even vaguely positive things being said about him at the moment, though, and so are taking issue with what are basic facts.
He looks physically finished. And I mean completely shot. Seems like his body has to carry his legs instead of other way round.
Yeah, okay. That's correct if you choose to discount all the other games in which he's played and scored - which doesn't smack of an agenda at all.
12 games, 6 goals, at a 1 in 2 ratio. Could also say he has 6 in his last 8, and has scored in 3 of his last 5 games, including 2 of his last 3 in the league. So if anything, his goal scoring form shows signs of picking up after a poor first four games.
Not great, but not terrible either - unless you're determined to trash him.
Steady on you make him sound like a hybrid of Ronaldo and Xavi.
How about the facts of 1 goal in 11 months away from home or 2 goals in 8 PL starts? those are the facts of his ratio against top opposition, not second tier cannon fodder used to pad out stats for an argument. You are talking about agenda but the only one showing an agenda is you.
What part of 'if we had someone unarguably better . . . he'd probably be dropped, and rightly so', which I said only a couple of hours ago, are you struggling to understand?
I'm fully aware that we haven't seen him produce his best form consistently for a while now - even with the potentially mitigating circumstances - and that there are better strikers out there.
On the other hand, i'm simply not having it that he retains *no* redeeming features as a player at all, and is 100% not good enough for us any more, because I don't think that's been proven yet.
He still has something to offer in terms of experience, game smarts, graft and - yes - even skills and goals.
You can talk about cannon fodder all you like, but Kane and Costa have faced some poor-to-average sides this season as well, and haven't scored as many as Rooney. I don't hear anyone writing them off for good.
Anyway, Mr Expert, perhaps you're wasting your time talking to me. It's Van Gaal you need to be convincing that Rooney is utterly shot, because he continues to play him and speak highly of him.
So pissed you have to write it twice
I think in first half he was bad in possesion, losing the ball and i agree made a few passes straigth to the opposition but he played with energy and was constantly on the shoulders of the defenders something i was missing from Rooney. Don't forget he broke the offside trap 3 times yesterday.
I think LVG talked to him about that prior the match and he worked on it. In the second half after the goal he was better in the possesion also.
One think i can't really decide is if he is slow or fast. I saw 2-3 sprints this season from him when i thought "wow he is still fast as hell" and he regulary is one of the fastest players but then there was a sprint against Jagielka who i think is not the fastest and he failed to beat him to cut infront of him and throw him out of the game. Did he little miss-control the ball during the sprint, is Jagielka fast or what the hell happened?
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