it was important for RVP, Wellbeck, Falcao and Hernandez to score though. Even if not scoring fair enough if he helps the team tick over, but a lot of the time his general game looks detrimental to the team progressing
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He had a good game yesterday, it was nice to play with 11 men for a change.
I would actually give him less stick if he came out and acknowledged his poor form. Both this interview (see Steve J's post) and the one after the Sunderland match he brushes it off as outside noise. If he said he needed to improve I would be more hopeful, more understanding. For now I actually think he is content with his form, showing exactly the mentality being undroppable is bound to give you.
He admitted to being blow par after the Villa game, and it didn't stop people slaughtering him.
If anything, it'll just give his critics ammunition.
Interviewer: So Wayne, many people think you're shit at your job and need to be sacked off. How do you feel about that?
Rooney: They're right, of course.
If he gets defensive at the amount of stick he's taking, then I don't blame him. Most people would I reckon.
Yes. Really.
To be fair to Wayne, that is probably his best ever performance at Goodison since that famous win in 06/07. Credit where its due.
Best game in the league since Spurs. Even though he wasn't great, I'll be happy if he delivered these sort of performances 7/10 times instead of 1/10.
He set up Herrera for a descent chance and Martial for a chance that should have been a goal, he also made some good runs in behind their defense one which resulted in his goal and people are still saying he was piss poor? Some people on here are just ridiculous in their agenda driven assessments of certain players.
My only agenda is making the blind sees
You're not a member of the Rooney hate brigade then and all the sheep that follow the same old posters that whatever he does is wrong, he even got criticised for scoring the goal by some moron on here. Did well today, better than in previous weeks.
Id rather be a seeing sheep than a blind Shepherd
"Shit - Rooney didn't play as badly as he's done over the past few months today. feck it, instead of praising him or actually getting behind the player and hoping that he can build on this, let's just shit on him some more and continue dragging him through the mud. feck hoping he continues to improve!".
Rooney was better than usual, it's still not good enough but he doesn't deserve particular criticism. Mata was poor though.
He also played an important role in Herrera's goal. Held it up well in the build up and split the defender to give Herrera so much space for the free header. His movement is always brilliant imo, even if it's creating space for a team mate rather than himself.
Think blind sheep would be more appropriate. According to whoscored.com Pass success rates PL this season - Rooney 83.1% Martial 72%
I think Martial is an amazing exciting prospect by the way
Rooney keeps giving the ball away don't you know and contributes nothing to the team, baa baa baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I don't hate Rooney at all, but that stat means absolutely nothing, the main problem with Rooney is that almost all his passes are useless, he doesn't try to create something dangerous, he multiplies the insipid passes and misses some of them.
Martial on the other hand is guilty of trying to accelerate with every touch, he tries things that he doesn't master yet.
Had a good first 20 minutes, shite for the rest of the first half. Bit better in the second but still poor aside from the goal.
Low standards if you didn't see it like that. I was very happy to see he had proved me wrong in the first 20 minutes but alas, it was not to be.
O and can the Rooney lovers stop making out like we 'hate' the man himself or something. We're just calling it as it is - in regards to his on-field performances.
Low standards if you didn't see it like that. I was very happy to see he had proved me wrong in the first 20 minutes but alas, it was not to be.
O and can the Rooney lovers stop making out like we 'hate' the man himself or something. We're just calling it as it is - in regards to his on-field performances.
I'm not sure if people 'hate' Rooney - that's quite a strong word - but there are a handful of them on here who clearly have taken a personal dislike to him, and relish the criticism.
He didn't seem as lethargic as usual yesterday. Maybe he's slowly starting to regain some form.
It's a bit pointless and kinda stupid, but take away the goal, and it's still the same Rooney we've been seeing recently. Poor touch, poor passing, laboured, lethargic. He's still got a long way to go before he justifies the permanence he's afforded.
The main criticism on here is that he keeps giving the ball away, that is incorrect - I do not favour any player in particular , I support the team and don't like having to defend players against unwarranted criticism from our own "supporters" - but people with obvious agendas really annoy me and yes you can criticise a player when he doesn't play well, and Rooney has had some poor performances this season but yesterday was not one of them
Herrera has averaged 1.4 key pass per game this season, and Rooney has averaged 1.3 key passes per game. Martial is on 0.8, and Depay is on 0.5.
So Rooney's passing is more likely to fashion a goal scoring opportunity than Martial's or Depay's is, and has about the same likelihood as Herrera's.
Only one of those players gets consistently hammered for his passing being apparently shite, though.
Same with the 'Our attacks always break down on him!' type stuff.
Rooney loses the ball via a bad touch an average of 1.5 times per games. For Depay it's 2.1, and for Martial it's 1.6.
Only one of them gets hammered for it.
Rooney loses the ball via a bad touch an average of 1.5 times per games. For Depay it's 2.1, and for Martial it's 1.6.
Only one of them gets hammered for it.
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Oh I agree, I have criticized him after some of his games, but when the next game comes I'm behind him and when he does well I'm happy.
It's only due to the position he played, you can't have bad touches and bad passes while creating nothing when you play between the striker and the midfield. Rooney's passing is fine for a striker, it's not great but it's acceptable.
However, I would agree that he's looked ineffective in quite a few games this season. No quibble at all there. And if we had someone unarguably better - an Aguero or a Suarez or a Lewandowski - he'd probably be dropped, and rightly so.
It's just that I know, from previous seasons, that half the people having a go at him over his form would still be having a go even if he was playing quite well.
Because from some of them, it simply *is* agenda driven.
It's just that I know, from previous seasons, that half the people having a go at him over his form would still be having a go even if he was playing quite well.
Because from some of them, it simply *is* agenda driven.
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He's been playing poor for a long while. If it wasn't Rooney he would have been out of the team a long time ago.
Regardless if people have agenda against him or not. For someone who is the face of our team he is playing well below expectations.
Captain and top scorer for a side that could go top of the league on Sunday. Might he actually be doing *something* right?
Rooney's passing compared to the league's other big name strikers:
Rooney wasn't playing as a lone striker, unlike the players you mentioned and once again is passing isn't exceptional but for a striker he is fine. And lone strikers have pretty bad passing stats.
So being captain automatically means he's a big contributor? What nonsense are you typing? He has 2 goals in 9 league games. It's hardly anything to brag out about.Nicely taken goal and he wasn't as bad as in previous games but not getting carried away.
It's just all i'm hearing is how much he hinders us. But apparently not enough to prevent a manager as experienced (and as ruthless) as Van Gaal from not just playing him, but playing him as captain. And apparently not enough to prevent us being in title contention.
Again, perhaps he *is* doing something right, and perhaps his manager and team mates - y'know, the actual experts - recognise that more than his detractors do. Which is why they keep praising him.
Those stats are bullcrap.
He pass to the opponent 12 fecking times last night under no pressure at all.
Key pass my arse.
Go on show me the heat map, make a youtube compilation of all his pass this season and it'll look like footballs bloopers collection
He pass to the opponent 12 fecking times last night under no pressure at all.
Key pass my arse.
Go on show me the heat map, make a youtube compilation of all his pass this season and it'll look like footballs bloopers collection
Those stats are bullcrap.
He pass to the opponent 12 fecking times last night under no pressure at all.
Key pass my arse.
Go on show me the heat map, make a youtube compilation of all his pass this season and it'll look like footballs bloopers collection
He pass to the opponent 12 fecking times last night under no pressure at all.
Key pass my arse.
Go on show me the heat map, make a youtube compilation of all his pass this season and it'll look like footballs bloopers collection
Translation:
'They undermine my argument, so i'm simply going to refuse to accept them and swear a bit'.
Maybe it's just that you notice / remember Rooney's bad passes more than other players', because you're sat waiting for him to make mistakes so you can jump on them.
I'd say that's much more likely than the companies who compile these stats having got them badly wrong.
Can we lock this thread? I'm up for it.
He's got an average rating of 5.3. By biased United fans!!
As I said, he's not been great. But then he does have a fairly vociferous anti-fan club on here, who probably race over to the thread to down vote him after every game (while those who just see run-of-the-mill 6 or 7 type performances don't bother voting - I know I don't).
This.
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