Not particularly. Within 6 months we'd won the league again and reached the Champions League final. Kagawa's signing and Van Persie didn't lead to him losing his place. In fact we accommodates him out of position despite the fact he deserved to be dropped.
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And on both occasions where he asked to leave, the following seasons Rooney practically dragged us along, especially in the 09/10 season. If the club needed him to stay and didn't want to sell him, that's their problem and the only way to keep him was by offering a better contract. I don't think Rooney would have lost any sleep if he'd been allowed to join another club.
You have your dates wrong. It was after the World Cup in 2010 that he asked to leave. The year he didn't show up until January. He was half decent last season. He didn't exactly drag us along anywhere. The fact he wouldn't lose any sleep if he'd been asked to leave is perhaps why people don't fall for the Rooney rhetoric of how much he loves the club and just loves playing.
Ahh yes, sorry about that. However, I still stand by my point that Rooney has no real love for the club but his performances on the pitch are 100% professional.
He's still at the club, I am a very literal guy. If he's running out in the shirt then he hasn't left the club - I also don't care about what happens off the pitch. People are people as long as they play football at 110% energy and passion I am happy regardless. That probably should have been a disclaimer somewhere.
You attacked the post and not the poster, that is why the ref has ticked you off. Picture Howard Webb standing next to you uttering some strong words in your direction then swishing his arms in a 'dont do it again' gesture.
And there lies the problem with modern day fans. It doesn't matter the number of unforced errors Rooney made like screwing up a pretty straight-forward passes to a teammate, his räpist's first touch & other nonsense he does on the pitch....
Just as long as he scores, his lack of football brain should be forgiven. If Rooney had been more clever against Swansea, we wouldn't have lost. I could count up to 5 times that the attack went south because Rooney failed to find a teammate with a pass from 5-8 yards.
It's surprising that a player of his calibre can pass accurately from 40 yards but cannot make simple 5-10 yard passes. One day, you Rooney fans would raise up your hands that he's not good enough & he has never justified the hype around him. The biggest mistake Fergie made isn't letting Stam go, keeping Rooney at the club beyond 12/13 is Fergie's biggest mistake.
And yet managers of the calibre of Louis Van Gaal and Alex Ferguson just kept/keep on picking him. And he just keeps on scoring and assisting.
If he does break the clubs goal scoring record - which would be a major achievement, given the calibre of players we've had down the years - there won't be an asterix in the record books saying '*But he made some unforced errors, and Hannibal off of the internet didn't rate him'.
There'll just be the record, standing as a testament to his brilliant career with Manchester United, and his exceptional talent as a footballer.
He doesn't actually lack for footballing nous, if you ask me.
Indeed, no less an authority than Carlo Ancelotti has described him as 'one of the most intelligent strikers in the world'. But I guess Ancelotti - like Fergie and LvG - is just a 'modern day fan' who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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because he's English & he scores/assists mostly from set plays like his counterparts in Liverpool(Gerrard) & ex-Chelsea general(Lampard). Last season, a whooping 7 goals out of Rooney's 17 league goals came from set-plays. If we still had Ronaldo or Beckham in the team, then Rooney would had about 10 goals all season - how's that impressive?
Rooney joined United at 18, he will be 29 in the next couple of months. It's a disgrace that he hasn't broken the record already with the number of quality players he's had to play with in the last 11 years.
Which other striker has spent 11 years at United? You can't just look at goals & not consider the number of minutes it's taken to reach that number. If Manucho had the same number of minutes under his belt, who knows....??
The games/goals ratio would tell you Rooney is overhyped in comparison to greats like Messi, Ronaldo or even Ruud. Rooney has never been in the top 5 of Ballon d'Or and you are hyping an overrated featherweight.......your standard must be very low.
He doesn't actually lack for footballing nous, if you ask me.
Indeed, no less an authority than Carlo Ancelotti has described him as 'one of the most intelligent strikers in the world'. But I guess Ancelotti - like Fergie and LvG - is just a 'modern day fan' who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Fergie described Rooney as an idiöt - a slow learner. It's funny how one of the most intelligent strikers in the world have the same number of goals in 3 World Cup outings as Fellaini who had just one outing.
Rooney had the world at his feet in 2004. I think he peaked in 2005/6. He added adipose cells & he's never been the same. He was actually ahead of Ronaldo in their teenage years but the difference between the two now can fit a Titanic ship.
Rooney is finished!!!
Which other striker did Fergie consider good enough to keep at United for 10 years? It's completely stupid the way people try and denigrate Rooney's scoring record by pointing out how long he's been at the club. Like achieving longevity and being a regular starter at one of the most successful sides in European football isn't a testament to his ability in and of itself.
Maybe you think Fergie - a Scotsman - only picked Rooney for all those years because Rooney is 'English'. But if so, that would say much more about you and your general lack of a sensible argument than it does about either Rooney or Fergie.
Rooney finished 5th in 2011, and has a few other top 10 finishes, so now you're just displaying a blatant lack of knowledge.
You should write to LvG and tell him. Do it all in red biro and capital letters, and end the note with 'P.S. I am NOT a nut'.
Because that seems to be about the level you're operating at.
We need captain Wayne to step up badly, we need him to be our leader. I hope he's up to it.
I hope he now gets away with as many fouls as St Slippery of Me
After all, he's done such a bang up job for United.
Sample size: two games.
Not to mention that's it a bit fecking stupid to decide that any poor result means the captain isn't doing his "job", whatever that may be.
What does captain have to do exactly? Specific examples, what Rooney had to do in loss vs Swansea and draw vs Sunderland? "Lead" doesn't really tell much.
Very happy for him.
Dumb and dumbererer starring Wayne in both the roles
Hughes only played 3 of his 13 years in the prem, our era of supremacy.
He's probably happy with the nomination, after all it's such a great honour. However, the English press/fans/media/illuminati will be twice as hard on his back now when England inevitably fails to deliver. Do not like.
And Rooney played with Ruud van Nistelrooy, Louis Saha, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez, Robin van Persie among others. Guess what they're good at.
Yes and imagine if any of them stayed with us for 10+healthy years. I am sure they would have already broken Sir Bobby's record.
seriously? It was harder to score goals before the old first division changed it's name to the Premier League?Rooney looked at them like he looks at Nani, that's why everyone left United.
Gerrard's part of it seems mostly to be off the pitch stuff and twirling the ref around his little finger with composed gruff seniority on the pitch.
I'd go with off the pitch stuff and showing responsibility on the pitch (not necessarily being the "clap, clap, come on!" type, but how you play). Not sure if Rooney is the type to carry the mantle of transmitting the right mentality to his teammates and taking hand of new players, etc, but you got to pick someone I suppose.
During the prem years we had better players thus goals and assists were easier to come by. Pogue I know you do not like my " Rooney is over-rated " stance but come on during Rooney's tenure with the club he has been surrounded by successful top class players, Hughes was not.
If Andy Cole stayed that long he would be probably ahead of Rooney and he played when we had 4 strikers of nearly equal ability.
And yet, none have. Anyway, that was not the point of my post.
Cole was on 121 after eight years. It's extremely doubtful he'd be ahead of Rooney no matter how long he played for United.
Rooney was on 181 after eight.
Rooney was on 181 after eight.
He looks 60, doesn't he?
On balance though, he was often supporting lots of those players. And unlike others has played on the wing/midfield/10/SS/Goalie... Even so, his goals/games is still very good considering how long he has been here and his record against good sides is impressive.
Get off my lawn!
Andy Cole didn't play for United for 8 years mind you.
I am not saying his record is not impressive just that it is not surprising considering the time spent during our glory years.
Him being captain of England is probably deserved but it will just ensure that they remain winless in the Euros an WC.
Being captain of Utd is also deserved and will likely have the same result. No trophies.
Passion and a high work rate is not enough.
I still don't see Rooney as captain material. He's also far too inconsistent to be one of those types of captain who inspire via performances rather than voice (like a beckham instead of a terry)
Often think playing for a "lesser" club can help a top striker with his individual stats. The team will be set up to get the best out of him and guaranteed to get a start in his preferred position, whenever fit. Alan Shearer being a good example. There's no chance of them spending a season or two playing out of position to get the best out of a phenomenon like Cristiano Ronaldo, for example.
He looks 60, doesn't he?
Yup, merely 3 months in Liverpool and it's hard to recognize him back from his SOTON days.
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