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Well obviously it does - since he was offered a new deal after 'asking to leave the club publicly' twice. 10 years at the club, on track to finish top scorer and club ambassador, loyal. I bet that is a scorcher.
Yes, not that it makes a lick of difference whether I am happy or not.
No, I am merely stating the facts. I don't even like the guy all that much but there is no denying that he is a huge part of our last 10 years whether some fans want to act like complete tossers or not.Is that still a serious attempt at discussing the subject at hand or just a "yes he asked to leave the club twice, we all know he was being a disloyal cnut and you are right, but my favoritest playah of all still got new deals, in YO FACE nar nar nar naniii"?
You are stating facts and glossing over details that are facts as well: wanting to leave twice (officially handing in a transfer request once), publicly undermining the club and only shutting up when he gets a pay rise twice is very much a part of his beautiful and romantic 10 years at United.
I don't care what he does off the pitch.
That generally makes sense, unless he does things off the pitch that are directly involved with Manchester United (you know, the club you support? Or is Rooney the one you support?) to the point that Ferguson looked genuinely distraught/sad in a press conference where he confirmed Rooney wants to leave... or when he is publicly embarrassing and undermining the club and manager... whom you obviously support (?).
I am not Manchester United, you are mistaking support with vicarious personal investment. Grown men sorting through life's hustle and bustle doesn't conjure up an empathetic response that personally effects how I live my life. ie. Going on message boards ranting and raving about how terrible somebody who plays football is.
Seeing how powerful a medium the internet is nowadays, I fail to see what is childish about discussing football topics on it as opposed to discussing them in a pub full of drunkards or in an office with a bunch of suits surfing the net for porn?
You're not even arguing about anything anymore though - you're obviously upset that Wayne Rooney is a big part of United's history and you can't deal with that. The fact is - he's signed extension deals for whatever reason and is still at the club. Once again if that burns you then it burns you. No amount of trying to horshite around a lack of loyalty paradigm can change that.
That's not what I said and LvG didn't decide to give him those wages. It was SAF!
Surely I am not reading this right? You mean, 'nobody can deny he's been a very good player for United'?
Sorry yes that's what I was trying to say.... This hangover is brutal!!!
I was going to say. That would be outrageous!
Even I couldn't claim that with a straight face
No. He went for something a bit younger this time.
You really must be incredibly bitter. Unable to string a coherent argument together without resorting to childish insults and going off topic to justify your hatred. (Of WR, don't really care what you say about me. WR is neither here nor there to me.)
Yes, I am the bitter one..That edit
You felt the latter paragraph was not enough and had to squeeze in an extra bitter appetizer to still your anger because I called Rooney disloyal. Heh...
He's dropping deep because the ball isnt getting to the forwards.
You claim mata should be doing that but he isn't either. Our Ball is stuck in midfield with two high quality forwards who don't even touch it cause the middle three has failed miserably to advance the ball. They are forced to come deep or we just wont get anything going at all.
Some of what you've said is harsh. We're only two games into the season and all our players are still learning to play in a different system. Once the team plays more games, we'll see better performances from all our players who are learning to adapt to a precise system. On the armband: giving him the captaincy isn't going to improve the weak elements of his play - what it will hopefully accomplish is raise his level of consistency, which has been a major weak point of his for a while now. What I do have a problem with, however, is Rooney's sluggishness on the ball. This deserves to be criticised and it has nothing to do with players not making movements or him not being given service against Sunderland (for those saying it does depend on those two factors).
