It was terrible, absolutely perfect position for the keeper, just like Agueros in the week.
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No, actually I think a lot of tall player's technique is underestimated because they don't move smooth and elegant, while their control of the ball is fine. I rated Fellaini as quite a good allround midfielder years ago. Nontheless, technically RvP is among the best in the world, and Fellaini isn't.
A lot has been changing over the last few weeks, throughout the whole team players have this click, think quicker, decide quicker, play quicker, start their runs earlier. That's the type of game that suits Van Persie much better than this slow posession game from the last few months where he has to shield the ball or walk back with it because there's no one to play it to with one or two touches.
Nothing new, always has a stinker at Anfield. Held the ball up well though and made good runs and worked hard so it's still good when you compare it to the striker "performances" that RvP/Falcao have given this season. His pens are the same as usual really, he always hits it at that height just this time Mignolet guessed right. We shouldn't change anything regardless of players coming back.
Rooney, why didn't you let Mata get a hatrick you moron?
Rooney was awful today, but he is still a brilliant player. He is going to be perfect foil for Ronaldo next season
Rooney was awful today, but he is still a brilliant player. He is going to be perfect foil for Ronaldo next season
No it isn't good at all. Sorry but how is having an absolute stinker of a game good? Using it even more against RVP who has put in some decent performances this season, Falcao fair enough but sorry he played a bit rubbish today which is a shame considering he looked like he was working his way into some really good form.
I mean like it's still better for the team then the average RvP game this season, he worked hard, closed down constantly and fought with Skrtel all game. His passing was way off and he should have scored but his movement was fine and he made those unselfish runs down the flanks to drag defenders out that was a huge problem with the other 2 strikers which they never did. Obviously for his standards it was shite, but it was for his standards also a normal Anfield performance. Always has a below par game there for whatever reason.
Don't think this will affect his confidence in any way though as we did win the game.
The average RVP game also came in a run where he was partnering a past it Falcao and we played like shit for ages. I don't see how RVP couldn't have done any worse today than what Rooney offered. I'm just wondering if we will see the pair of Rooney and RVP together once he's fit again. Kind of warming to Fellaini playing in the first XI.
Yeah true. And I said a few weeks ago that I'd be interested in seeing Van Persie as a 10 behind Rooney in a 4-4-2 against Villa to try it, he has the extra bit of technique and quality on the ball in tight spaces that perhaps Rooney lacks while Rooney can stretch defences with his physicality and extra pace. Rooney behind RvP never worked, could work the other way around. But the way we're playing now with these players in the 4-3-3, we really shouldn't mess with it in the big games. If someone loses form then we can change, but two games in a row where the whole team performed well (for the most part).
With his woeful first touch and inconsistent short passing, surely it's better that Rooney is the furthest forward so he does not disrupt the creative balance of the team.
Very poor today compared to last week, but i can't for the life of me remember a good Rooney game in the city of Liverpool. Hes always shite at both Anfield and Goodison.
Yep, think we would have struggled today had he been playing deeper. Least furthest forward his poor game today didn't effect the performance of our midfield who all played very well.
Usual Rooney performance at Anfield.
Rubbish.
Rubbish.
Thought he was poor in the first half, never really got going in the second either but his hold up play was better.
He was a bit shit today. Shame because the midfield was genuinely excellent today. Hope he gets back on track next game. We need one of iur big name strikers to go in a run.
Really poor today but that hopefully fires him on for the next game. Also, his penalty was poor
His penalty wasn't that bad, it was a decent save from Mignolet.
You won't hear 'agenda' from me (I hate that expression - why would anybody other than a player's agent/family or the player himself have an agenda regarding the performance of said player?) I'm also not the biggest Rooney fan, but I feel he's our best striker at the moment (damning with faint praise, mind you.) I feel RVP has become too lethargic, and Falcao too bereft of confidence. Rooney has always had games like today in him (frustratingly they usually seem to happen against Liverpool or Everton,) but history suggests that he'll bounce back with a strong effort or two in the coming weeks.
Should be taken off penalties.
18 out of 26 is shite
18 out of 26 is shite
Doesn't Falcao have a great penalty record? Why isn't he taking them over Rooney?
Just his usual Anfield performance, so not too worried. He'll be fine the next game.
Bad game but how can anyone argue that RVP or Falcao should be playing. Besides his goals we are simply a better team with him as striker. It's so obvious. That debate is over. We look a proper team now. Can't change it now.
As long as he has a good game against Villa and City now, all will be forgiven.
he started the game like he was hungover and ended it with a horrible penalty. It was delivered that he was going to put it in that side imo. Saying that, he finds the corner like he did last penalty and its 3-1. Just the execution wasnt great at all. Keeper dives the wrong way and we dont care either.
He needs to up his performance though. Our first 35 minutes were great, but in that period id love to see how many times he actually touched the ball.
he started the game like he was hungover and ended it with a horrible penalty. It was delivered that he was going to put it in that side imo. Saying that, he finds the corner like he did last penalty and its 3-1. Just the execution wasnt great at all. Keeper dives the wrong way and we dont care either.
He needs to up his performance though. Our first 35 minutes were great, but in that period id love to see how many times he actually touched the ball.
Totally agree. Is 18 out of 26 just in the league? I'm sure I remember the last time he missed one in the cup against West Ham they said it was his 10th missed penalty for Utd. So it would be his 11th today.
He shouldn't be taking them any more, he's not reliable enough. We've been incredibly lucky though in that I think we've gotten away with it every time he's missed one. We should act now before his crappy penalty taking technique really costs us.
Agreed. We need to look for someone who can improve on what he brings us up front in the summer, but he is the best option for us until we buy someone better.
With no Robin van Persie on the field, Rooney should continue.
Rooney's missed penalties:
Dec 2004 - Crystal Palace (H)
Oct 2007 - Aston Villa (A)
Mar 2010 - Liverpool (H)
Dec 2010 - Arsenal (H)
Sep 2011 - Chelsea (H)
Jan 2012 - Man City (A)
Jan 2012 - Bolton (H)
Nov 2012 - Arsenal (H)
Jan 2013 - West Ham (H)
Any more between Jan 2013 - Mar 2015?
EDIT: 25 scored? So, if no more than yesterday's in that period between J13-M15, he's on 25/35. Five in last six tries.
Dec 2004 - Crystal Palace (H)
Oct 2007 - Aston Villa (A)
Mar 2010 - Liverpool (H)
Dec 2010 - Arsenal (H)
Sep 2011 - Chelsea (H)
Jan 2012 - Man City (A)
Jan 2012 - Bolton (H)
Nov 2012 - Arsenal (H)
Jan 2013 - West Ham (H)
Any more between Jan 2013 - Mar 2015?
EDIT: 25 scored? So, if no more than yesterday's in that period between J13-M15, he's on 25/35. Five in last six tries.
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I genuinely don't think he was as bad as is being made out.
Things weren't working out for him, but his movement, mobility and hold up play were still very important to how the team as a whole played.
Things weren't working out for him, but his movement, mobility and hold up play were still very important to how the team as a whole played.
Pretty poor yesterday and his peno was a gift for Mignolet.
He was pretty crap. Really really poor in the first half (when everyone else was on fire) but, to be fair, picked it up in the second half. Still, not a good performance overall.
His Liverpool/Everton hoodoo is weird. His goal=scoring record in big games is second to none, so you can't accuse him of being mentally weak. Yet somehow his home town is his kryptonite....
His Liverpool/Everton hoodoo is weird. His goal=scoring record in big games is second to none, so you can't accuse him of being mentally weak. Yet somehow his home town is his kryptonite....
Agree with most on here. That he was poor yesterday. The thing he does do well even when playing badly is occupy defenders, take up good positions and put himself about a bit. Which he did. But he was hardly involved in the game at all, which was a shame considering the performance
I wanted either Mata or Falcao to take it. Never feel confident with Rooney on pens.
Imagine the backlash if Rooney did what Gerrard did. Dropped from the side, comes on in the derby sent off after 45 seconds. He'd be slated! Gerrard getting away with it a bit in my opinion.
Not great at all yesterday, Goodison and Anfield are his kryptonite. Better towards the end in midfield I thought. Not a good performance, but not to the extent I'm seeing by some on here ('worst performance by a Utd player' or whatever). He'll be back to his best next week.
As for the pen, he's admitted he regretted not letting Mata take it, but even so, I don't think there's much wrong with it. You have designated pen takers, if he'd let Mata take it and he'd missed, he'd be blasted for it as well. But I agree that it would have been a nice gesture, esp. if Mata had got an Anfield hat trick.
As for the pen, he's admitted he regretted not letting Mata take it, but even so, I don't think there's much wrong with it. You have designated pen takers, if he'd let Mata take it and he'd missed, he'd be blasted for it as well. But I agree that it would have been a nice gesture, esp. if Mata had got an Anfield hat trick.
He was awful yesterday. Should have let Mata take the penalty to get his hattrick.
9 times out of 10 he shoots in the left corner. He didnt shoot well this time and the GK saved it. Thats the risk, i thought he should have just smashed it through the middle, but i saw it coming.
Penalty aside. his performance was atrocious. Probably our worst player on the pitch. He wasnt even defensively on top of his game, just thought he looked a bit uninterested yesterday, which is a bit weird considering we played Liverpool. His pressing was ok, but against Spurs he pressed faster, this time he jogged.
Penalty aside. his performance was atrocious. Probably our worst player on the pitch. He wasnt even defensively on top of his game, just thought he looked a bit uninterested yesterday, which is a bit weird considering we played Liverpool. His pressing was ok, but against Spurs he pressed faster, this time he jogged.
Agreed. In such moments it's best to just smash it under the bar in the middle. It's easy to say he should have given it to Mata in hindsight though. He was the captain and it was to finish off the game.
I didnt think he was as bad as a lot of people are making out. Not among our better players on the day, not one of his best or most influential performances, but not the liability some are making out. And he was totally justified taking the penalty, even if he didnt take it well. No need to dwell on this, he's been fantastic in recent games and Im sure will be back to his best against Villa.
So the united fan in the kop was just someone being creative with the photoshop. I was wondering how anyone can be that daft.
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