Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Nobody knows what Rooney is on. But the 300k a week figure seems a bit mental as does the 250k he is supposed to be currently on. 300k a week means around 20mil a year. RVP is suppose to be on 250k a week. Between them that would be around 20% of the whole United wage bill. Thats seems a bit high.

Anyway overall our wage bill is in the best shape of all the PL at 51% of turnover. Even Arsenals is up at around 60%.

Have you got an updated one? The one you keep referring to is from 2012- almost 2 years out of date and there have been a lot of monetary changes since then.
 
£300k a wee is madness and sets a very dangerous precedence. Players coming to United will be looking more than they will have originally got- even average players.

At least they would be more willing to come if they don't see the club's best player jumping ships. We're doing a bit of a City/Chelsea this summer, so we need to look as attractive to prospective players as possible, and holding on to Rooney does that. But yeah, 300k a week for him is too much, even more so if it's for 5 and a half years.
 
£300k a wee is madness and sets a very dangerous precedence. Players coming to United will be looking more than they will have originally got- even average players.

Didn't Suarez sign a mega contract with you only a short while ago? A contract north of £200,000 per week as well, and you're supposed to fund that with a 40,000 timber-seated ground.

Jog on.
 
If it's until 2019 it takes him to 33.5 years of age... A bit of a risk when we consider the popular belief he's not one of those players who'll remain just as good once they pass 30.

I think the plan will be to try develop him into a Scholes type midfielder once he hits his 30s. If he can do that I don't see any reason he couldn't play to 34.
 
£300k a wee is madness and sets a very dangerous precedence. Players coming to United will be looking more than they will have originally got- even average players.

It also puts pressure on Liverpool. We are only matching what Chelsea/City pay. A lot of liverpool players will be looking for increases if you make the CL(which looks likely in fairness). Hopefully gobbling up the extra 30-40mil it makes you.
 
If it's until 2019 it takes him to 33.5 years of age... A bit of a risk when we consider the popular belief he's not one of those players who'll remain just as good once they pass 30.

He'll be a midfielder by then.

He'll remain as an attack until he beats Sir Bobby's record, then he'll slowly make his transition to midfield in my opinion.
 
I don't think the club could have won in this situation. They either let him run down his contract, sell him to a domestic rival (if it's true he didn't want to go abroad) or pay him excessive amounts. When I saw it was on BBC this morning I wasn't particularly overwhelmed or bothered and I imagine it's the same for a lot of fans. £300,000 is excessive.
 
Great news...for Rooney. Whether it's good news for United only time will tell. I know we are desperate to keep all our best players and rightly so. We should do anything reasonable to do so. Whether giving Rooney such a contract is the reasonable thing to do in that situation I don't know. I have my doubts though. Time will tell, etc.
 
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We're not matching Chelsea.....I don't think they have anyone on 200k, yet alone 300k.
 
The truth is we are gonna have to do a City/Chelsea style spending spree on transfers and wages from here on in, due to the collossal feck up made by United/SAF of appointing a manager that wasn't nearly ready enough yet and some might say arguably will never be ready.

Rooney would probably have gone but it wouldn't have been the end of the world if we weren't stuck in 7th place.
 
It also puts pressure on Liverpool. We are only matching what Chelsea/City pay. A lot of liverpool players will be looking for increases if you make the CL(which looks likely in fairness). Hopefully gobbling up the extra 30-40mil it makes you.

We have no one on 200k a week, let alone 300k.
 
He'll be a midfielder by then.

He'll remain as an attack until he beats Sir Bobby's record, then he'll slowly make his transition to midfield in my opinion.

God, I hope not. It'll be the final nail in my belief we'll ever get the midfield right if we have a plan that includes assuming Rooney can become a class midfield, at a time he's supposed to lose some of his mobility.

Not every good footballer can do a Scholes.
 
I don't think the club could have won in this situation. They either let him run down his contract, sell him to a domestic rival (if it's true he didn't want to go abroad) or pay him excessive amounts. When I saw it was on BBC this morning I wasn't particularly overwhelmed or bothered and I imagine it's the same for a lot of fans. £300,000 is excessive.

Pretty much. If we didnt offer him a good deal and he joined Chelsea everybody would be going on about the Glazers not wanting to pay.
 
We have no one on 200k a week, let alone 300k.

Good. We might be able to tempt Hazard. :drool:

Seriously though our wage bill is less than Citys/Chelsea so I would think Rooney is only getting what their top rate is.
 
Didn't Suarez sign a mega contract with you only a short while ago? A contract north of £200,000 per week as well, and you're supposed to fund that with a 40,000 timber-seated ground.

Jog on.

No need to be so bloody cheeky I'm trying to make a legitimate point.

Suarez signed a contract to take his pay up to £200 which is a massive amount as well, however nothing more than what a lot of PL footballers are on now but £300 is branching into different territory setting not only a dangerous precedence for United but also other teams in the league. Liverpool are about to renovate their stadium and in the event we do get CL football that's another financial boost. Someone said a few posts back that Rooney and RVP's wages combined is 20% of your wage bill and that's before RVP signs a contract extension (which I'm sure is in the pipeline), does that not worry you?
 
We already have a better #10 and a better striker. Fat cnut is fleecing feck out of United.

People celebrating it. :wenger:
 
No need to be so bloody cheeky I'm trying to make a legitimate point.

Suarez signed a contract to take his pay up to £200 which is a massive amount as well, however nothing more than what a lot of PL footballers are on now but £300 is branching into different territory setting not only a dangerous precedence for United but also other teams in the league. Liverpool are about to renovate their stadium and in the event we do get CL football that's another financial boost. Someone said a few posts back that Rooney and RVP's wages combined is 20% of your wage bill and that's before RVP signs a contract extension (which I'm sure is in the pipeline), does that not worry you?
By the time the next tv deal is done we won't be far off a million quid a week footballer. Rooney's deal, in relative terms, will be big, but in line with the increases across the board due to this tv deal. I'll put it this way: us paying £300k p/w is no more or less worrying than you paying £200k p/w, given the relative financial strengths of the clubs. You want the best players, you pay the best salaries.
 
Didn't Suarez sign a mega contract with you only a short while ago? A contract north of £200,000 per week as well, and you're supposed to fund that with a 40,000 timber-seated ground.

Jog on.
To be fair, that's 2/3rds of what Rooney is being reportedly paid and Suarez is arguably the better player.

Well, I say arguably but what I mean is everyone who isn't a United fan.
 
With BBC too reporting, this story is more likely to be true. Great news for us. I don't care about salary etc. That is for club to figure out, negotiate and manage. What I care about is retaining this season's best player and who is going to be key for us to fight our way back to top next season.
 
No need to be so bloody cheeky I'm trying to make a legitimate point.

Suarez signed a contract to take his pay up to £200 which is a massive amount as well, however nothing more than what a lot of PL footballers are on now but £300 is branching into different territory setting not only a dangerous precedence for United but also other teams in the league. Liverpool are about to renovate their stadium and in the event we do get CL football that's another financial boost. Someone said a few posts back that Rooney and RVP's wages combined is 20% of your wage bill and that's before RVP signs a contract extension (which I'm sure is in the pipeline), does that not worry you?

It looks like it is worrying you people more. No, it doesn't worry us because they are among the best players in league and need to be paid that much to retain.
 
To be fair, that's 2/3rds of what Rooney is being reportedly paid and Suarez is arguably the better player.

Well, I say arguably but what I mean is everyone who isn't a United fan.

Yes, it is two-thirds of what United are offering Rooney, but Liverpool aren't tw0-thirds as rich as United.

Context.
 
It looks like it is worrying you people more. No, it doesn't worry us because they are among the best players in league and need to be paid that much to retain.

I does worry me to an extent, as I said before it sets a dangerous precedence for the PL as a whole.
 
It's a bit cute that Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans are telling us to worry about our best player signing a new 5yr contract.
 
No need to be so bloody cheeky I'm trying to make a legitimate point.

Suarez signed a contract to take his pay up to £200 which is a massive amount as well, however nothing more than what a lot of PL footballers are on now but £300 is branching into different territory setting not only a dangerous precedence for United but also other teams in the league. Liverpool are about to renovate their stadium and in the event we do get CL football that's another financial boost. Someone said a few posts back that Rooney and RVP's wages combined is 20% of your wage bill and that's before RVP signs a contract extension (which I'm sure is in the pipeline), does that not worry you?

I am sure the people running the club are competent enough to know what kind of financial impact Rooney's wages will have and will have considered everything before giving it the go ahead. As much as some UNited fans will have you behave, they are not fecking clueless.
 
To be fair, that's 2/3rds of what Rooney is being reportedly paid and Suarez is arguably the better player.

Well, I say arguably but what I mean is everyone who isn't a United fan.

Good. Suarez will not be happy. His agent will be on the phone straight away.(Not to us of course but he will be looking around Europe for that sort of deal for his client).
 
It's a bit cute that Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans are telling us to worry about our best player signing a new 5yr contract.

Personally don't think he is our best player. Both Mata and Van Persie are better in my eyes and he also unbalances our team.

If Van Persie leaves in the summer then fair enough him staying but otherwise its just pointlessly bending over for a player who continues to blow hot and cold whenever he wants.

Theres soo much talk about the "united way" and then this nonsense.

Fergie obviously believed Rooney was not the way forward for united so he paved the way for his exit.
 
I'm amazed people aren't happy for this.

If Rooney leaves, we'd be going through a transition period within a transition period. He's been with us for 10 odd years now - that's actually rare these days I'd say. He's pretty much a one-club guy considering he joined us when he was 18.

I know he's had his down with the club/fans, but he could totally get this sum elsewhere if he wanted to. He may like his money, but no one can deny that he doesn't love football too - we all see how angry he gets when he's subbed off or if he misses a game. He's sacrificing a good couple of years of glory now.

I know I may get slated for painting a saint-like light on him, because I'm sure I should say that it's expected from a player. But as I said, there aren't many players out there who've been at clubs for 10 years and he's Wayne fecking Rooney, the player who has carried us through the first half of the season. If he wasn't with us, then no doubt we'd be in the bottom half of the table now :lol: It's hilarious because it'll probably be true.

He's a muppet like us, and he wants big signings. Let's be realistic, I adore these value signings like Hernandez - I mean £7million was in hindsight a bargain for example. But when we're at this stage, it's going to take some unbelievable luck to find some value signings that'll tick to get us back to where we were last season. If he's requested the club to sign big players like Mata, even though it's not really conventional for a player to do so, I'm happy he's done so.

He has his haters, and I can completely understand why he does. But I'm sure I'm in the minority in which I constantly forgive him because, as I said, he could get this pay-check elsewhere if he wanted to. We all saw how he celebrated the Carrick goal vs Fulham - that was genuine.

Here's to another 5 years Rooney! Hope he breaks the goal-scoring record; there's no doubt he deserves it considering he's reached this far when he was in Ronaldo's sublime shadow for a number of years, and being forced out of position at times.
 
At least they would be more willing to come if they don't see the club's best player jumping ship.

Oh how standards have fallen.


Rooney is quite simply never worth £300,000 a week. That should be for the very top players, something Rooney isn't near.

It is a regrettable symptomatic of the fear taking hold in some quarters at the club. Were we to attempt to sign a truly world class talent at the peak of their powers they would expect a place in our wage structure in accordance with such, additionally this could make for tensions with Van Perise and at a time when we can ill afford them.
 
I does worry me to an extent, as I said before it sets a dangerous precedence for the PL as a whole.

See, in the end, clubs have to work within their revenue. The transfer fiasco notwithstanding, United must be having one great management team who manage to pull all these new commercial deals and for sure know more than you, me and everyone here where money is going to come from, where it is going to be spent and how to mange salaries. As long as we don't incur losses and stay within rules of FFP, it is fine. If we talk about precedence , it has been set by Chelsea and City. United are just now using their financial muscle for first time because they need to as SAF is not there to extract superhuman efforts from a team which is not most talented in league.
As far as other clubs are concerned, well, they will have to manage as per their revenue. We have 'earned' these commercial deals through a success period spanning more than couple of decades and we need to make use of it now to avoid falling down. That's what we seem to be doing by retaining Rooney, buying Mata and having big spending plans for summer.
 
Surely a large part of this increase is coming from his image rights and not out of the pocket of the club? Loads of people on social media blabbering on about how united are paying him too much but I would assume we are giving him more of a percentage of his image rights than anything else?
 
People can harp on about the wages and high they are and that he's not worth it or whatever but the fact is that he is by a mile the most marketable player at the club and will make us a shit-tonne just by staying here and signing that new contract.

The club aren't stupid, they know what he's worth.
Basically all of this.
 
Rooney is also Uniteds most marketable asset right now. By quite a huge margin, that'll play a huge part in his salary here, but he and Stretford know that fact too. He probably wouldn't get as much at Chelsea.....but he also wouldn't make as much off the field.
 
It's a bit cute that Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans are telling us to worry about our best player signing a new 5yr contract.

:D Yeah, that's what my point was earlier. First, I have my doubts about what will be his exact salary. I mean from his last contract, we have heard wage figures ranging from 180k per week to 250k per week. To me, it is club's management's headache to ensure we don't incur losses and that the 'gap' between players' wages is according to merit. As a fan, what matters is, we are retaining our best player of the season who will be key next season as well to get back to top.

For other clubs, if they can't pay this much salary to their best players, they should work on increasing their revenue, not tell us to cap our wages.
 
I'm sure Ed Woodward will spend another week briefing the media about what a brilliant job he did to get someone to sign a massively inflated contract. Good news for the club though, we clearly have the resources to do it and we need to keep our best players because we have a lot of work to do and a very difficult summer coming up.
 
I does worry me to an extent, as I said before it sets a dangerous precedence for the PL as a whole.

Well, to be fair if EPL wasn't flooded with other-players-biting-racist-scumbag-players then I don't think it will be with money grabbing whoers. ( it already is in fact but hey )
 
Rooney is underrated by many United fans. He plays out of position in a mediocre team with mediocre tactics and he's still comes in at 4th in the goals and assists leaderboards. He's the only United player to feature in the top 10, whilst the top 4 have got at least 2+ players bar Chelsea. Yes, Suarez is having twice the season Rooney is, but make no mistake the Liverpool team is geared toward playing a style that suits their players and if you substituted Suarez for Rooney, I don't think too much would change.

The truth is, there isn't a single team in the Prem that Rooney would not start for, and I'd go as far as to say that every team in the world, bar maybe Bayern would take him and he'd improve them. You play him as Striker and you have a player who is a world class striker that can fill in multiple different roles during a single game if need be. It's just United are currently so shit he has to take up the responsibility of spreading the play, then running into the box to score a goal.

300K a week is warranted if you ask me and if he left I'm sure many would wake up and realise the job he does for us no other player could.
 
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