Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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We should get him signed up, and get the most out of him for the next two or three years. Ship him off at around 31 or 32 or move him back into midfield (although he would a very expensive backup there)
a) I have his own admission and sir alex word which is good enough.
b)Its my opinion which might be proven correct in time, maybe not. We will see.
c)Again personal opinion.
His style is hardly pleasing on the eye. No finesse.
Really? I was a little harsh about "feck your opinion" - but I've never heard that before. He's almost the complete striker - and can range from graceful in terms of pinging a cross to the opposite side of the pitch, to aggressive. Unpredictable for defenders.
But fine, whatever. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree.
When Rooney is on his game he's the most influential player in the league, let alone our team.
I'll argue that with anyone.
I think this season people are remembering, who seem to have massively forgotten this last year.
If he signs on, and has his head on, things look way more positive.
I don't overly buy this he won't play on due to his body shape type stuff. He's a footballer, not a long distance runner!
I'll argue that with anyone.
I think this season people are remembering, who seem to have massively forgotten this last year.
If he signs on, and has his head on, things look way more positive.
I don't overly buy this he won't play on due to his body shape type stuff. He's a footballer, not a long distance runner!
He won't be as long lasting as he could be (at the top level) because of his physique. Imagine if he had Giggs' physique - surely you can see he would age better.
Giggs is nt a comparison. Only a few % of worlds footballers are competitive at that age. They are the exception and not the rule.
How many people were suggesting that he already earned 250K a week after signing his last contract?
Here? 1.352 people.
Why, have we got anything that states otherwise?
Most sources were quoting the wages as somewhere between 180k-250k when he signed his last contract. Most opposition fans quickly jumped on the 250k figure as gospel. Nobody knows what he actually gets paid, but it's probably in the above mentioned range.
We all know about the big saga during the last contract talks, so you would think it was a pretty hefty sum he was after to go to those lengths. I would guess somewhere at the top end of that range.
180k itself is hefty, and was specially so 3 years back. Anyway, I don't care that much, he has performed brilliantly since signing that deal, and would much rather we spend big on players than bankers.
Not necessarily seeing as City were throwing massive wages about at the time (and we know how rampant those particular rumours were at the time, funnily enough).
Yeah, I totally agree, this is the first time I'm seeing a Manchester United fan being delusional. Could be a wum.
I'm getting the feeling that we will be seeing a lot more transparency about club business with Fergie and Gill gone. Perhaps it was the Kenyon departure and all of the transfer business he fecked United over on due to his inside knowledge that left them feeling burned and as a result a bit secretive the last 8 years or so.
Who cares how much he makes really? He brings the club that money back and then some I would believe. The question is how long will he productive, I don't think a four year contract is a bad piece of business personally. Do people imagine him going up top as he ages or dropping deep.
I think Rooney will end up like Alan Shearer did in later years - losing mobility but still capable of scoring goals. He won't drop back to midfield but instead go the other way and be the 2009/10 goal poacher. He'll end up close to 300 goals for the club if he stays 4 more years after this one.
Once he kicks Neil Lennon in the face I'll be happy.
He's already kicked Ricky Carvalho in the balls, is that not enough? It was Lennon who headed Shearer's boot, besides.
We might see Rooney following Shearer onto MOTD in a few years too. That would truly be a joy.
I worry that he's been playing too much football lately.
This. Doesn't help that Hodgson feels he has to play him constantly. And we played him in the League cup too.
The effort he's been putting in will surely be difficult to maintain over the next 7 months (or 8, taking into account the World Cup).
I was thinking that but then it's like Fergie was saying he does seem better when he's playing regularly, in general I think we could probably look to try and rest RVP/Rooney a bit more as it does seem that we get them on as much as we can but I think whilst Rooney's sharp we should try and keep him in the team.
Fergie said something in his book about Dirk Kuyt being a good team-player but that all the running around he does for his team makes him less sharp and precise when he has the ball, particularly with his finishing. So long as Rooney isn't exhausted to the point that the quality of his work suffers then he's probably on the right side of the overplaying threshold.
Oh yh, but I think that's slightly different, Rooney won't have been working as hard as that each game, I know he did a lot in the Arsenal game but don't think he's done many more games like that, although it probably is a fair point that he can still maybe learn about when to conserve energy in games. Tbh probably our main issue is not killing games early enough. If we did that more we could probably sub people like Rooney of more.
He's done very well for us this season, but fecking hell he wouldn't have got into that Germany C side yesterday!
Giggs aside, even players like Scholes, Neville who are not blessed with the best physiques (like Giggs) will probably have outlasted Rooney by the time Rooney hangs up his boots.
Well that's an over exaggeration to say the least. He's better then any striker Germany have got, easily. And yes, he's a better option then gotze as a false 9. In fact, the only national team that he wouldn't automatically start in would be Argentina probably, because they have messi and aguero who is around the same level as him.
You'd think Hodgson would want to protect his established players who are definitely going to Brazil.
That's an overstatement. He probably got the big name and stuff, but Klose function perfectly well with the German setup, unlike our defunctional Rooney (when he's in England team that is)
Ironically as a number 10 which is where England and United plays him he would not be close "to certainly start" for many top teams.
Germany and Spain alone has; Iniesta, Mata, Isco, Götze, Kroos, Silva, Schürrle, Reus, Müller, Thiago who are at a similar or higher level than Rooney as a CAM.
Rooney's role as a left-winger in 08 was a better position for him than as a number 10, don't really get it.
Probably because he didn't play left wing in 2008 and instead played ahead of Tevez in a front two, and he's played in a front two for his entire career.
I said as a striker, or as a number 10. One way or another, he'd definitely start for both. Also, since when are the likes of Schurrle, Reus, Muller, Thiago, Isco and Silva better then Rooney as a number 10?
Isco can become better yeah but he's had what, 2 full seasons of first team football? A few of those are wingers, and Thiago is still a young player who isn't even close to that level yet. Anyways, Rooney as a number 10 is completely different to traditional number 10's, because he plays as a second striker, not attacking midfielders. He's always played in a front two, he just goes deep to pick up the ball a lot.
Rooney isn't brilliant as a no. 10 and he isn't brilliant as a lone striker, which kind of limits the number of teams he would realistically fit into.
Rooney could be striker for German and Spain and improve both teams quite a bit.
Exactly. His best position is as an out and out striker. Most underrated finisher across Europe. Feed him chances and he's deadly. A "top, top" #10 or a central midfielder he is not.
I'd say he can be a brilliant number 9 but it is not going to work for England if they can't string a passing move together. I have no doubt he would work well in that role for a proper team like Germany.
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