It's not just working hard. You're talking like context doesn't matter. We're up against it this season, we're lacking a bit in quality and confidence, he's had a difficult Summer himself, we were up against one of the form teams in Europe yesterday. He was inspirational. He lifted the crowd and his team-mates. There really aren't that many players around who can do that even when not in peak form. Slate him when he deserves it - and he has deserved it - but when he's special, give him the credit. He was fantastic yesterday.
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It's not just working hard. You're talking like context doesn't matter. We're up against it this season, we're lacking a bit in quality and confidence, he's had a difficult Summer himself, we were up against one of the form teams in Europe yesterday. He was inspirational. He lifted the crowd and his team-mates. There really aren't that many players around who can do that even when not in peak form. Slate him when he deserves it - and he has deserved it - but when he's special, give him the credit. He was fantastic yesterday.
It might be expected but it certainly doesn't work out like that. He was quite noticeably working harder than any other United player, so it's no surprise he is being praised for it.
They said he ran 11km. That's well above average hence the noticable difference and praise.
It's the intensity he runs at as well, he isn't just jogging around the pitch all game but sprinting full pelt in powerful bursts which is even more tiring.
I didn't think he played that well. I'd only give him a rating of 4 for that performance.
He didn't play well - he played BRILLIANT! and the 4 is out of 5. White text is so 2007. Won't happen again!
He didn't play well - he played BRILLIANT! and the 4 is out of 5. White text is so 2007. Won't happen again!
I've made my feelings on Rooney, and his situation, very clear over the Summer. And that won't change.
But, yesterday, he was absolutely phenomenal.
But, yesterday, he was absolutely phenomenal.
I saw the game again and I can't remember when I saw him so fit and full of energy. He was all over the place. I hope the club reward him with a new contract extension, he's worth it. In the summer I wanted to get rid of him but he has proved me wrong several times this season. If Özil is worth £40m then Rooney justify his salary by far if he continue to play like this.
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Ran himself to a standstill, had moments of true quality and a few moments of utter daftness. One thing I loved about him and Robin yesterday was how deep they dropped at times. I know some think its unnecessary but against a team of that quality in midfield, vs our not so great midfield, it was imperative in us transitioning the ball from the back.
For me the most encouraging thing about Rooney yesterday was how he celebrated the goal. Hopefully the press is comparing it with his so-called lack of enthusiasm in celebrations at the start of the season.
a new contract must be put on the table any time soon. just like i thought last august rooney could well get back to his old form again, thus deserving a new contract extension. when he is at his best we all know he is world class. if he wants an increase in his wage i say just give it to him. this is going to be his last big contract so he is within his right to ask for a bit more. nobody will complain if he keeps on performing on the pitch.
Two points:
1) How confident are people that he would sign a new contract with us? I suspect he will not.
2) I might be remembering this wrong but didnt he play really well last time his contract was up for renewal, only to have one of his protracted lulls as soon as pen had been put to paper?
Just concerns playing in the back of my mind. I actually agree we should try and get him to sign a new contract ASAP.
1) How confident are people that he would sign a new contract with us? I suspect he will not.
2) I might be remembering this wrong but didnt he play really well last time his contract was up for renewal, only to have one of his protracted lulls as soon as pen had been put to paper?
Just concerns playing in the back of my mind. I actually agree we should try and get him to sign a new contract ASAP.
No, he was crap before the whole thing came out and then injured in Dubai. When he came back after the contract was signed he had an amazing run in (10/11)
Ah it was the other way round was it? I remember the contract being a watershed one way or t'other.
Simon, Simon, Simone, always getting it backwards.
Piss off Anic.
That's how I remember it also - he was on a goal-scoring draught (didn't he even miss a penalty during that time?) but after he came back he formed a good partnership with Chicharito that saw us through to the title and the Champions League final.
As for my confidence about him renewing - well until he does renew then I'll be expecting him leave when he's able to, based on all that went on in the summer (and in 2010 before that). It definitely looks more positive that he might renew now than it did, but I still think he's done a deal with Chelsea and is waiting to get out of United.
We shall see.
Meh, fair enough, he lifted the crowd but he wasn't special by any means. You aren't special by running around a lot whilst fumbling the ball throughout the match. Like I said, it was a good workhorse performance (and he wasn't the only one who looked like he gave a shit either) but lets not get carried away.
With Wayne Rooney playing as well as he is, I am a little concerned about his contract expiring. Does anyone see him re-newing? Or is it a case of 2 more seasons and out?
To be fair he does seem a lot happier now.
To be fair he does seem a lot happier now.
I think the two more seasons and out scenario is the least likely. He'll either renew before too long - or leave in the summer. If he continues to play well there should be no lack of callers and we'll probably be able to sell him abroad - which I think we would be OK with all things considered.
I hope he signs a new contract, though.
I hope he signs a new contract, though.
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He's a bloody good player, don't get me wrong, but he's no Ryan Giggs. I just can't see that body going into it's mid thirties playing the game the way he has since he was 18. Which begs the question, why is he so reluctant to drop deeper? It'll prolong his career.
Because he is still in his prime, when the time comes, he will adapt his game, not while he still has what makes him a top player.
Over time he will drop deeper and play a role like Gerrard.
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Seems like Rooney has gotten the order of the goals mixed up in the recent Google+ interview, Ruud's goal was the first one obviously
Brilliant news if true regarding the contract stuff.
I said before the season started that he'd bounce back from all of this controversy and saga and have possibly his best season of his career. A few here tried to argue it and say he wouldn't, he's been fecking immense so far. A fired up Rooney with a point to prove is up there with the very best in the world.
I said before the season started that he'd bounce back from all of this controversy and saga and have possibly his best season of his career. A few here tried to argue it and say he wouldn't, he's been fecking immense so far. A fired up Rooney with a point to prove is up there with the very best in the world.
Am I the only one that doesn't get the 'older you get, the deeper you drop argument'?
I mean, if you're being protected like Pirlo was and is at Juventus, then it works. But surely, the slower and older you get, the less likely you are to perform well in midfield, particularly when the modern day midfielder has to be energetic, mobile and tactically astute. Rooney's skill set just isn't suited to being a midfielder and I don't think it ever will be. His short passing isn't precise enough, nor is the erratic first touch. Defensively, he isn't too great. Granted, that can be picked up by playing there, but I'd sooner see the club spend money on younger, better, actual central midfielders as opposed to playing Rooney there just because he has regressed. Rooney could and should never be more than a squad player if he was to be a midfielder.
Personally, it makes a whole lot more sense to me to use him as an actual #9 provided he stays. Theoretically, he'll be quicker in his 30's than the likes of Van Persie and Ibrahimovic are now, so I don't see the need for moving him back into a position that he isn't very good at.
I mean, if you're being protected like Pirlo was and is at Juventus, then it works. But surely, the slower and older you get, the less likely you are to perform well in midfield, particularly when the modern day midfielder has to be energetic, mobile and tactically astute. Rooney's skill set just isn't suited to being a midfielder and I don't think it ever will be. His short passing isn't precise enough, nor is the erratic first touch. Defensively, he isn't too great. Granted, that can be picked up by playing there, but I'd sooner see the club spend money on younger, better, actual central midfielders as opposed to playing Rooney there just because he has regressed. Rooney could and should never be more than a squad player if he was to be a midfielder.
Personally, it makes a whole lot more sense to me to use him as an actual #9 provided he stays. Theoretically, he'll be quicker in his 30's than the likes of Van Persie and Ibrahimovic are now, so I don't see the need for moving him back into a position that he isn't very good at.
You generally need to have quick acceleration to be a forward player, to make the maximum of the small space you get, especially when beating an offside trap.
When playing in midfield you can generally make up this time by brain speed and movement, rather than thundering around the pitch at 100mph, like a Scholes/Xavi/Pirlo.
Sure if your legs have completely gone then it's time to give up (Scholes), but if you are still able enough (Giggs) you can make it work.
Yup, fair points. Your second point is why I don't think Rooney is remotely good enough to play the role to a better extent than what a genuine quality purchase could. His speed of thought, passing and close control just isn't good enough to play in central midfield for a club that is aspiring to be the best.
I wouldn't agree that you 'need' to have quick acceleration to play as a forward, though. Ibra and Van Persie aren't too quick and their hold up play and clever movement still means that they're relevant.
They are a special case though, top pro's make up for it by being quick in the head. Let's be fair though they are hardly slouches either.
When I was younger, I uses to think pace was absolutely critical. While I'd argue it's still important for a forward player especially, movement is something I've appreciated a lot more recently. I think most of Utd's strikers have never been lightening fast (Yorke, Cole, Sheringham, Ole, Ruud, Saha even Cantona) but they've always had really good movement. Whereas players who rely on pace like Owen and Henry haven't really aged as well and their lack of all round game has had a negative effect.
Saha was lightening fast if I recall correctly though, but yeah I agree with the general sentiment.
Hope not.
a)because of his behaviour over the past couple of years
b)for that money we can do better,particularly in the last two years of that contract.
c)dont enjoy his style of football.
£250k is a lot of moolah.
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