Which is why I wonder why some fans act like it hasn't.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Which is why I wonder why some fans act like it hasn't.
He's referring to genetics. Ronaldo is definitely blessed with his genes.
That said, Ronaldo clearly looks after himself much more than Rooney does.
That said, Ronaldo clearly looks after himself much more than Rooney does.
Yeah, but 'at least he knows when he's been shit'
Relax, he's been on a decent run of form before that game - just looked like he was hungover and seeing as its in the run up to Xmas, must be a perfectly good explanation as to why and I'm sure Fergie won't be too mental about it.
You're right. Some of you do.
Raees isn't one of them BTW...
Raees isn't one of them BTW...
Thing is you could tell he was going to have a mare just by watching him move around the pitch, looked heavy on his feet and lethargic, no nimbleness on his feet.. when he's light on his feet, he's always good to watch. That said, he still was like a magnet for the ball and was more influential on the game and more positive than Valencia who was dire.
Thanks Carl. I don't see how that directly correlates to Rooney's occasional shockers though. Although the genetics point is true, Ronny showed tremendous determination to get where he is now. Wayne hasn't shown that same determination but no one would say he's not a determined player.
Come on mate that's unfair. Since when has Valencia been more influential on the game than Roo even when he's in top form?
They play two very different roles in our side.
I know but I mean in their respective roles, considering their varying responsibilities... Rooney as a number 10 performed way better than Valencia did as a Right winger, despite the former being in atrocious form yesterday. Valencia has been like that for ages this season.. he's been painful to watch and I miss Nani in all honestly, our wingplay is so boring and predictable at the moment.
Rooney is quite a stocky guy. It's why it always takes him a few games to really get going.
Yep, I only just started watching Utd in October. Googled them and bang!
That's not always why mate. You just started watching United? So you just supporting us in October or you've been following for some time but now can watch the lads?
I know what you mean Raees. The wording threw me off a bit. Guess we'll agree to disagree. I thought they were both pretty shit with Rooney being a bit better. I may need to watch the match again though.
Sorry, I don't understand what you just wrote? Anyway, lets just change it to yesterday was one of the worst games I've seen from him. End of.
Since I assume you're joking, think back to Everton away at the start of this season. Newcastle away last season. Many of his game in the first half of the 2010/2011 season which he made a terrible start to. Yesterday was hardly the worst game of his career.
He's never played worse than that for Utd.
Really bizarre comment. He had half a season playing pretty poorly, and has played a lot worse than yesterday.
It's simply that yesterday's game is fresh in the mind and people love to make sweeping statements on the current.
That can be seen from most polls of the bests over 20years, always have way too many current players involved.
I think he has played as bad two or three times before, but never worse.
I think I've seen about about a dozen of equally bad performances from Rooney at United. When he has a bad game, it tends to be extremely bad.
Yesterday, he was still effective and could have scored. You wouldn't be able to say that about some of other below-par performances. Not a chance that that was his worst game in a United shirt.
Disagree, the only effects he had on the game yesterday were negative affects. 'could have scored', to me reads as 'should have scored' and is only another indicator of how woeful he actually was.
What was his worst game and why is that game worse than yesterday's?
What was his worst game and why is that game worse than yesterday's?
I was just going to say that you could argue that 'he should have scored', and yes you're right in that. The point is, that he was still a threat. I can remember games in which he'd not test the goalkeeper for an entire game and his passing equally as bad.
I agree that it wasn't his very worst game, but he wasn't effective at all in my opinion. Continually messed up and disrupted more attacks than he helped. Very few times did he actually make anything of those chances where he could have scored.
People can say that he worked hard and at least kept on trying, but Heskey does the same a lot of the time. Nice trait to have, but it was useless for Rooney in a game like yesterday.
Most games away at Everton or Liverpool for starters.
A fair few other games that aren't as memorable, where he couldn't control a ball, and played loads of "Killer balls" straight to an opposition player.
Still our key man though.
Tbf he at least was working out wide when he could and was making the right choice by working it wide when he had too, he was unlucky that he had a bad day at the same time as Valencia is having a poor stretch and Young wasn't being particularly creative and we were missing our two other most creative players in nani and kagawa.
itspeaks to how good he has been recently that this 'off' day stands out. He has had stinkers in the past.
no worries. He'll be back.
no worries. He'll be back.
Sounds the the same as yesterday, only slightly more forgivable because of the arguably harder opposition.
That's selective memory IMO, he has been as bad as that before and more often than not posed more of a threat, not less.
He had a poor game, but it was by no means his worst. Many of his key passes didn't come off and he struggled to beat his man throughout, but he was still involved in a lot of our build up play - when he's completely off form you don't see that at all. I found his eagerness to do something on the ball despite repeatedly previously fecking up before to be encouraging, you could see he knew he wasn't having a good game and was desperately trying to change that, it just didn't come off, quite similar to how Nani is when he's having a bad one. He made himself available far more than you would usually see in an out-of-form Rooney, which was good (although ultimately not so good considering the output with that availability) and I'm wondering if that's maybe the reason he's getting such a strong reaction from the game.
To suggest that he was more eager to get on the ball than he is usually is when playing badly is a falsehood, he never shies away from it.
No, it's because he was fecking awful yesterday.
I'd disagree, I've seen plently of games where Rooney sees a lot less of the ball and doesn't look to be anywhere near as motivated as he was yesterday. I couldn't blame him for effort, it was just the execution that messed him up.
Perhaps whe he played up front alone, but that's to be expected because of the role.
I'd never question Rooney's motivation to be fair, that's a strange criticism of Rooney IMO. In what games would you blame his effort and not his execution?
yeah. thats how I saw it too.
some of the over the top comments on here is normal for the caf though.
The games where he is terrible and doesn't even show too much effort either seem to often be when he's the lone striker if I remember correctly. In games like this, where he naturally seems to play the second striker role, he will tend to become more involved anyway, even if he's having one of his bad days.
I agree that despite his poorness there was a maturity to his play, whether his bottom level is lower than other top players is a different argument, but he's performed worse than he did yesterday in the last imo. Like I said I think he was unfortunate that on the day he was off his game none of the other main creators were on theirs and neither kagawa or nani were available as options.
I'd say it people who think he plays as bad if not worse than that on many occasions before who are going over the top.
Yesterday would be a dreadful performance for any player, not just because its Rooney and it doesn't just standard out because of 'how good he's been lately'.
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