Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Wayne Rooney is to be allowed to leave Manchester United – it is just a matter of when, not if.
After weeks of speculation about the unsettled striker, a senior insider at Old Trafford has revealed toSportsDirect News that the England hitman, who played a key role in last night’s 3-2 international defeat of Scotland, has lost the support of senior figures and will be allowed to move on.
But, as it stands, the 27-year-old will not be allowed to join an English rival.
“It would be madness to sell him to an English club,” commented the senior insider, who is well placed within the United hierarchy. “We don’t want to help any of our rivals, therefore a move abroad looks like it’s the only option.”
And he added: “The fans will not forgive him easily for what has gone on. He will go, of that I am sure, it’s just a matter of when.”
Until that moment, which could take six to 12 months, Rooney will be expected to knuckle down under new boss, David Moyes, and play a key role in supporting the Reds as they set about defending their Premier League title.
After weeks of speculation about the unsettled striker, a senior insider at Old Trafford has revealed toSportsDirect News that the England hitman, who played a key role in last night’s 3-2 international defeat of Scotland, has lost the support of senior figures and will be allowed to move on.
But, as it stands, the 27-year-old will not be allowed to join an English rival.
“It would be madness to sell him to an English club,” commented the senior insider, who is well placed within the United hierarchy. “We don’t want to help any of our rivals, therefore a move abroad looks like it’s the only option.”
And he added: “The fans will not forgive him easily for what has gone on. He will go, of that I am sure, it’s just a matter of when.”
Until that moment, which could take six to 12 months, Rooney will be expected to knuckle down under new boss, David Moyes, and play a key role in supporting the Reds as they set about defending their Premier League title.
if he has his head right, when on form, etc.
this excuse gets used way too much for someone of Rooney's supposed "quality". He is not as good as you think he is, people. He can be replaced. Every other top drawer player in the world does not have this same disclaimer that Rooney is afforded from a lot of Caf posters.
FFs people all Rooney is after is to see how many pages this will get to on the Caf!! What is it now.....569....and counting.
3,000,000 views should be the next big milestone for the thread.
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Reminds me of an article about the royal birth, I think it was in the Huffington Post; "Woman of child-bearing age give birth to boy. Presumably, boy will go grow up", or something to that effect.
I guess, to be fair, most of what's considered news could be reduced to similar silly-sounding tidbits.
There has to be a tagline for you somewhere in digging up and posting the most pointless articles not worth the time of anyone on the caf.
You can question his attitude, character and behaviour but how can you question his quality, have you been watching a different player for the last 9/10 years.
Pull the plug already then, we are the club that's selling the player, we are the club that has nothing to lose by not selling, we hold all the cards, Chelsea can set as many deadlines as they want, it means feck all to us.
It would be nice if the fecker came out and said something about being happy to continue playing for United, or hoping to feature against Swansea, or even just "If I'm picked i'll give it 110%" ... but do we get any of that? do we bollocks.
I think it's clear that he's desperate to get out. The mystery is why. I reckon the media stuff about not being valued enough is bullshit, and think the lure of Chelsea's money and Ashley Cole's cock is something that he's be tempted with for a long time now.
The lure of Chelsea's money? I don't think he'd get much more from us than he's already on at United.
I can't speak for Ashley Cole's cock though.
I don't think Chelsea will pay him much more than what he's on now, but I bet Wayne knows that his next contract renewal with United won't be as extravagant as what he's on now. I think he'd be expected to take a bit of a cut in 2 years, where as Chelsea might offer him a 5 year deal on his current income. It's a possible motivation for him to leave, though it'd be a very shitty reason. I'd rather it was because Fergie stood on his neck for being shit at taking penalties.
We dont have any world class players bar RVP in our attack. Its not as if losing Rooney wont weaken us hugely. The rest of our players in the front 4 positions all have question marks against them-consistency,goal scoring, adapting to the PL etc etc.
Also Rooneys big match record is pretty good by anybody's standards-I wont deny he has had stinkers in big matches either though. Nor can it be denied he can go through bad spells.
To loose Rooney would be a huge blow and it seems on here that people are going way over the top in picking flaws in his game. Fair enough if you want him gone because of the way he has acted but its a bit silly to be down playing the impact he has had on United winning stuff since he came here.
That's probably the most plausible explanation I've read for what might be his motivation for causing all this - the theories that he's so insecure about RVP, or wants to play with Ashley Cole and John Terry don't seem "enough" for even the most short-sighted of footballers, but cold hard cash always seems plausible.
Not a fan of this attitude, of course we don't have three or four world class players waiting on the bench for Rooney to depart - pretty much no club does, and United least of all because that isn't how we do things.
What we do have is three brilliant young attackers who could all go on to become world class. Kagawa has already proved it in Germany, for one. If Rooney were to leave and Hernandez started to get more game time there's nothing stopping him from becoming a world class player. He's already a world class goalscorer and the strides he made last year in his general play (which already proved huge sections of the Caf wrong) demonstrated that he can develop into a more rounded footballer.
As a fan of United you surely know that you need to develop players to help them become world class. We rarely ever pay huge transfer fees for our best players but develop them ourselves, which is exactly what will happen if Rooney leaves.
It's actually a benefit of him leaving to me, because if he doesn't I could see both Hernandez and Welbeck stalling and getting as little game time as they did last season, or in Welbeck's case having to play on the wing again.
I think he wants a change. He's not kicked on in his career as many thought (his fault) and sees working under Mourinho (with some mates) as an opportunity for a new start.
It might be just about the dosh but I don't think it's that straightforward.
It might be just about the dosh but I don't think it's that straightforward.
Thing is, he'll be brilliant for you lot this season if he signed... he'd be motivated/interested and bang them in for fun.
It's the season after that, and after a World Cup where you'll then get to enjoy the real Wayne Rooney.
It's the season after that, and after a World Cup where you'll then get to enjoy the real Wayne Rooney.
The real Wayne Rooney who has scored and created a shitload in his career at United. Just because he's acting the cnut now, we shouldn't be re-writing history. He's be brilliant for us and will be a huge loss when/if he leaves
Edit : been, not be!
If in the upcoming season, whether at Utd or Chelsea, Rooney plays with the same boredom and lack of interest he displayed in many of his matches then it will indicate a real decrease of his quality. IMHO it'll mean he truly isn't the great he used to be for Utd anymore and not a case of a lack of motivation.
The real Wayne Rooney of the past year or two, who is likely to bang them in for fun in one game then be terrible the next.
I'm fully of the opinion that Wayne Rooney is passed his peak, and won't be a huge loss if he leaves as we've already had the best years from him.
There's been a lot more to the Wayne Rooney at United story than that, and you know it.
Is he in the squad for the Swansea game?
More often than not he would bang them in or get an assist whilst being terrible, it was a really wierd season for him.
That Norwich 4-0 game sticks out in my mind... how someone could be so abject for 70 odd minutes, then grab some assists and bang in a 30 yarder in the remaining minutes...
I think Rooney himself has realised his form has been shocking at times over the last couple of years and therefore feels the need for a change of scenery ahead of the world cup next year, whether that would make a difference i am not too sure.
This is not a slight on Moyes, but i am reading between the lines, reading various over the last few weeks Rooney still feels Fergie is pulling the strings at Utd. So my question is if a a Guardiola or a Mourinho were appointed as our manager would Rooney be still inclined to leave, would this have given him the "change of scenery" rather than a Moyes who is of the same ilk as Fergie?
This is not a slight on Moyes, but i am reading between the lines, reading various over the last few weeks Rooney still feels Fergie is pulling the strings at Utd. So my question is if a a Guardiola or a Mourinho were appointed as our manager would Rooney be still inclined to leave, would this have given him the "change of scenery" rather than a Moyes who is of the same ilk as Fergie?
Well, that's the thing in a nutshell: If Rooney had been consistently brilliant in all he does on the pitch AND maintained his present scoring record...well, his status as an absolute world beater would be unchallenged. But most players, even very good ones, aren't absolute world beaters consistently: There's a small handful of players in that bracket. I've always said that much of the frustration with Rooney is down to him not being in that handful - and more importantly that this is often viewed as being mostly his own fault, because he hasn't applied himself enough, hasn't been as dedicated and professional as Ronaldo, etc. The fact is that if any player had delivered like he has, in terms of goals - important goals too, crucial goals at the highest level - I think most fans would focus on this, not on his "general" inconsistency.
And now, in the midst of this bloody saga, the tendency to focus on the bad rather than the good is obviously stronger than ever.
I agree with the idea that we will be fine and move on without Rooney if he does go. Its just silly to downplay Rooneys impact and the step up required by the rest of the squad to fill the gap. It worked out fine when RVN left so who's to say it wont if Rooney goes.
It is hard to understand the logic behind his urgency to leave, he had suggested in the past that he had set himself the target of being United's all time top goal-scorer, even after the previous contract situation. As duffer said it's probably the Mourinho factor - he probably wanted Jose at United and believes he'll make him a better player. He might be right too.
He was still poorly advised to isolate himself like this before it looked like we had a replacement though, cause he must have known there's no way it'd ever happen otherwise.
He was still poorly advised to isolate himself like this before it looked like we had a replacement though, cause he must have known there's no way it'd ever happen otherwise.
Regardless of how good he is, or whether we need him or not... I'd still rather our team be filled with players who want to wear the shirt and want to play for us (and we've got plenty of those).
If a part of him didn't even slightly mind staying here he would have said something positive by now, but as he hasn't, I say leave him in the reserves.
If a part of him didn't even slightly mind staying here he would have said something positive by now, but as he hasn't, I say leave him in the reserves.
Yeah, to me that is more important than anything else. He clearly doesn't want to be at the club, so why reward or encourage that attitude? I'd start Welbeck/Hernandez/Kagawa over him every single game, and be happy that a player who wants to be a part of the club now and for the future, is getting the game time over someone who doesn't seem to give a feck. I'd rather we started building without him in mind at all, because he has no future here, and doesn't want one either.
So, will he actually - one day - come out and say something? Pledge his future to the club or state that he wants to leave? Could do with closing this chapter once and for all.
If he was willing to do that he'd have been shoved in front of a camera by now like the last time he pissed around.
It's pointless at this stage. His silence has already spoken. If he comes out and says he is saying, it's only because there are no options for him to be sold, and it will help settle some of the fans and reaction to him staying. That's really why he hasn't said anything so far, because there's no point going against the club and fans in public when it's not guaranteed he will be sold, it would work out terribly for him if he publically commits to wanting a transfer, but then ends up staying.
Could easily drag on for a while yet. He certainly won't come out and pledge his allegiance until he's convinced a move won't happen. I reckon Chelsea will make another bid, that'll be the next chapter in the saga.
I'm pretty sure the fans are going to give him huge amounts of shit regardless of whether he opens his trap.
Remember the signs in the crowd from last time? "Colleen forgave you but we won't".
Whether it said on the back "until you score an overhead v City", I'm not sure.
Of course, for many he has crossed a line that won't be forgotten no matter what he says or does now. But the reason he hasn't come out publically is because it has no benefit to him, and will only turn more against him, which would be stupid if he can't get his move.
My thinking is that I doubt we'll hear anything from him until he joins Chelsea, when I expect he'll stick the knife in. If he does stay the season with us then he might agree to some damage limitation, but the only way I see him pledging to the club in public would be if he agrees a new contract, which is both not guaranteed he'd even listen to, or that we'd even offer.
If he wanted to stay, then I'm certain he would've said so long before now.
Yep. He will only speak on it once he either is forced to stay and that would then be damage limitation, or to moan if he does get his move.
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