It would take two seconds for you to answer them, but ok. You're a strange individual in any case.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I agree with most of that. There is nothing to be gained by Rooney in saying anything whatever his intentions .It places himself in a kind of neutral position.
I disagree with you however regarding the 'Rooney camp' thing. It is possible to intelligently filter out most of the bullshit and speculation and come to the conclusion that 'Rooney's camp' have been briefing the media, unless you are naive or do not want to think ill-will towards the player.
The whole semantic, 'did he or did he not hand in a transfer', and the 'angry and confused' line, are 2 clear examples that has obviously come from the 'Rooney camp'. The whole point of doing it this way is for the pragmatic reasons you have already stated.
Obviously from Rooney's point of view it is a more typical and beneficial approach in damage limitation, then in the more extreme approach that Suarez has taken. A player who is has now been singing like a canary since the end of the season, that even the most staunch Liverpool fans can barely defend him.
Thanks, mate.
Following post from his facebook page
I still want Rooney to stay but, the thanks to Hodgson does sound like a big FU to Moyes - if one was trying to read between the lines and chose to look for the negative that is.
I still want Rooney to stay but, the thanks to Hodgson does sound like a big FU to Moyes - if one was trying to read between the lines and chose to look for the negative that is.
I'd agree. Sounds like he genuinely thinks/has fallen out of favour at United.
The bit about faith and support is rather odd. Rooney has been an England regular for a long time; why wouldn't Hodgson have faith and be supportive? Sounds like something shoehorned in to suggest there was little 'faith and support' at United.
What I meant to say wasn't that everything is press bollocks and nothing stems from Rooney's "camp" - but rather that it's hard to say how MUCH stems from his camp, and how much is just embellished, regurgitated, twisted and plain invented by the media. We all have - I believe - a tendency to turn off a certain part of our common sense when it comes to the tabloids (and these days the "serious" sources of old are getting less serious by the minute too, repeating unfounded twattery from...twatter): When they run a story which supports our prejudices we tend to conveniently forget that it's no more gospel than the fairytale they served up yesterday, which portrayed the person we like or dislike in a different light.
I sometimes wonder how much of this is strategy - and how much is just general spitting out of information, verified or unverified, veiled or open, interesting or not: We live in a world where information seemingly must be proliferated endlessly, regardless of its actual significance: It's a kind of virtual garrulousness which seems to lead a life of its own at times.
Has Rooney never been on the blower to Maureen? Or someone who knows Maureen Is he limited to communicating with the great man through the media, in the form of "leaks"? There's something decidedly pathetic about our times - sorry, neither here nor there, just had to say it.
Totally agree, and a lot of it is on here.
Moyes has come in and praise Rooney fromhis first press conference. He has done nothing but backed him.
If this isnt enough for Rooney to hell with him.
Aye, reads like that, doesn't it?
Well, there's this to say - regardless of all the rest: I don't believe Moyes has had it in for Rooney. I think he - Moyes - has been willing to give Rooney a fair chance. No more, perhaps, but certainly no less. And I think Fergie, somewhere behind the scenes, has been alright with this too. I don't believe for a second that the old man has suggested to Moyes that the best thing to do here is to alienate Rooney as much as possible, yet at the same time proclaim officially that he isn't for sale. For spite - or because he holds a grudge. That's unthinkable to me. So, Rooney has had every chance to just get on with things and fight for a place in the line-up. If he feels unwanted and unloved that's either down to him being overly sensitive or down to the new management being poor communicators. Roughly. The other possibility is that he has decided to leave Old Trafford and is just engaging in some silly spiel designed by that cnut Stretford - who stands to pocket a handsome fee should we sell Rooney, of course.
I don't really care. It remains my opinion that we shouldn't sell him to Chelsea. And I actually believe that if we refuse to do so, he'll settle down soon enough and just get on with playing. Which will be fine by Moyes: He'll use him as he sees fit - which is how it should be.
How is that a dig at United by Rooney? He's not played any competitive game for club since April so it's obvious he'll be thankful to Roy for still sticking by him and playing him.
It's a dig. Who cares? Once there's some actual football to be played, everyone will have something to occupy their time...players, journos, Caftards. Roll on Swansea.
Wayne didn't feck a hooker when his wife was home pregnant with his child, he thought he was interviewing for a nanny to HELP colleen, and when he stood up to show her out he tripped over his huge rocky dennis chin and ACCIDENTALLY got his cock wedged in her, unfortunately that's the bit the press saw.................
It's not really a competitive game but the thing about support from Roy Hodgson is unnecessary and hints at him not getting it elsewhere. He could have played a friendly already if he wasn't pretending to have a sore shoulder.
A less paranoid way to read it. Makes sense.
It could be read as him suggesting he doesn't think United support him and appreciate him although it is easy to see the negative in everything to do with Rooney at the moment, often unfairly. Mind you, he could go round doing wanker signs and shouting obscenities at the United fans and you'd say it was a good thing.
Wayne didn't feck a hooker when his wife was home pregnant with his child, he thought he was interviewing for a nanny to HELP colleen, and when he stood up to show her out he tripped over his huge rocky dennis chin and ACCIDENTALLY got his cock wedged in her, unfortunately that's the bit the press saw.................
I was just going to say, Rooney could piss all over Moyes face and wr8 would still be arguing he was just trying to give him the man a drink.
We can't tell if it's a dig or not but Wayne certainly knows how the remark will be interpreted...
He's subtle like that, our Wayne.
Jesus feck Rooney could rape the Queen and some of these Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime would still defend him. It really is tragic.
Sure the guy has been a great player for us, but he is just a player! not a fecking mythical god like creature.
Sure the guy has been a great player for us, but he is just a player! not a fecking mythical god like creature.
Oooooh! Get her!
Fine, take it all on face value, that still begs the question of Rooney's willingness to perform the pleasantries in regard to Hodgson/Engalnd but not Moyes/United.
ralph250 from the Newbies send me a PM with some interesting info about agents and the precise nature of loyalty bonuses e.t.c.
One of the areas mentioned was the reduced prevalence of agents taking a cut from the transfer fee itself these days, with a percentage of the playing contract paid through instalments increasingly being the norm.
The agent taking a cut from the transfer is possible but the club although the club ahs to make a point of going for that.
Going by last season's figures United appear to do comparatively well when it came to their dealings with agents last season:
1. Man City: £10.5m
2. Liverpool: £8.6m
3. QPR: £6.8m
4. Spurs: £6.5m
5. Chelsea: £6.4m
6. Arsenal: £5.5m
7. West Ham: £4.4m
8. Man United: £3.6m
9. Newcastle: £3.4m
10 Everton: £3m
11 Aston Villa: £2.7m
12 Fulham: £2.5m
13 Sunderland: £2.1m
14 Reading: £2.1m
15 Wigan: £1.9m
16 Stoke City: £1.7m
17 West Brom: £1.3m
18 Norwich: £1.2m
19 Swansea: £1.1m
20 Southampton £646,000
To be honest I have no reason to say Stretford will make money from Rooney's possible transfer. I just threw it in for good measure 'cause I think he's a cnut. But what you're suggesting, lest I misunderstand, is that the bastard wouldn't necessarily profit greatly from a Rooney move to Chelsea - unless Rooney should get much more favourable terms down in London, that is (and that isn't likely, as I understand it - he is already at extremely handsome wages)? He might even profit more from Rooney, somehow, getting an extension here which would increase his per annum income? Or is that going too far?
Wayne didn't feck a hooker when his wife was home pregnant with his child, he thought he was interviewing for a nanny to HELP colleen, and when he stood up to show her out he tripped over his huge rocky dennis chin and ACCIDENTALLY got his cock wedged in her, unfortunately that's the bit the press saw.................
God that reminds me of how vile Rooney is, it's incredible what us fans are able to see past as long as the player is producing the goods for the club!
God that reminds me of how vile Rooney is, it's incredible what us fans are able to see past as long as the player is producing the goods for the club!
I'd imagine it will all come flooding back to you once he signs for us.
The best thing is is that Rooney couldn't actually string that 'sentence' together anyway so really it's a PR guy having a go at Moyes via the guttural mumblings of Wayne. We should sell both of them.
I'm starting to think more and more than it probably wasn't the best idea for Fergie to publically state Rooney asked for a transfer, or at least things haven't gone to plan.
Initially I thought the club might have something good lined up, a proper big transfer but that hasn't happened and more and more it feels like we've gone from a position of strength over Rooney to perhaps needing him to stay again. Transfer wise it's looking unlikely that a big name will be coming and I can't really see where we would find someone to come in for him and I don't think we can sell without reinvesting even if its not a like for like transfer.
Maybe we thought we would have had something concluded already but it hasn't turned out that way. Hopefully it's a case of sticking to our guns and saying he's not for sale but then you have to think what was the point in making it public except to get the fans on his back? If we're gonna keep him that doesn't really help anyone.
Initially I thought the club might have something good lined up, a proper big transfer but that hasn't happened and more and more it feels like we've gone from a position of strength over Rooney to perhaps needing him to stay again. Transfer wise it's looking unlikely that a big name will be coming and I can't really see where we would find someone to come in for him and I don't think we can sell without reinvesting even if its not a like for like transfer.
Maybe we thought we would have had something concluded already but it hasn't turned out that way. Hopefully it's a case of sticking to our guns and saying he's not for sale but then you have to think what was the point in making it public except to get the fans on his back? If we're gonna keep him that doesn't really help anyone.
he just sounds like a winging cock, quicker he is gone the better.
I think the club for fed up with his shit and was hoping they could interest a foreign team, perhaps knowing that Chelsea were very keen.
Surely there are more sly ways of doing that though?
Maybe Fergie had decided that he'd had enough of Rooney and wanted to feck with him a little.
God that reminds me of how vile Rooney is, it's incredible what us fans are able to see past as long as the player is producing the goods for the club!
Oh, come on! It's the world's oldest profession, they say. And he employed a right old professional to do the job too - he's an equal opportunities enthusiast, is our Rodney, not favouring the young and the ambitious just because it's popular among his peers. It's to be respected, I think. Making a stand, you might even say.
Who among us can cast stones, eh? I'd gladly shag some hookers if I had the money to spare, even old ones. As it stands I'm looking to lose all I own on my "Moyes to buy Fabregas - with Fellaini's hair - before Charity Shield" bet.
I thought the same initially however I think the reason Fergie did it was that he knew Rooney was gonna ask for the transfer anyway, so he made sure he blamed Rooney in public, so that Moyes wouldn't get any blame if Rooney fecked off elsewhere.
I lost some respect for Rooney the last time he threw his teddy out of the pram and I said some things about not being fit to wear the shirt blah blah blah, and in some ways I did forgive him ,I didnt regret what i said or change my opinion of him ,Possibly i was blinded by the rose tinted spectacles as after all he is a United player and bygones be bygones and all that ,But i thought okay show me what you can do to earn my respect again and to be fair he did.
This time though i wont slag him off on a forum, i just want rid, I think he will go hopefully the very last day of the transfer window,
thanks for the memories now close the door on your way out wayne.
This time though i wont slag him off on a forum, i just want rid, I think he will go hopefully the very last day of the transfer window,
thanks for the memories now close the door on your way out wayne.
Yeah that's a fair point could well be that. But still not sure, seems like Moyes is still gonna get some heat especially now that the Fabregas bid has failed and was public. Can just see not if Rooney does end up going and we hit a rough patch that the press will all be saying about how we couldn't keep Rooney, or get key targets etc. I really think that if we could get in another top attacker/midfielder and get Nani to stay that we'd be in a good position over Rooney, hopefully there's time for that to happen, right now though we might start needing him again.
You know, I don't rule that out. Not entirely, that is. I don't think Fergie wanted - or wants - Rooney out. Not a chance. He bought the fecker and he knows, probably better than anyone, what he is capable of. But to feck with him a little, after the incident of 2010 and the post-Ronaldo years of actually depending on his services - yes. Why not? Give his arse a wee kick, let him know who the boss of the operation actually is (with a certain Dutchman safely procured and all set for the 20th league title), yes - again, why not?
Fergie is no angel. He did what he had to do to keep us challenging for trophies - and winning them, every other year in terms of the league, since he took over (and that stat is skewed in his disfavour, one might reasonably argue). He's been known to be kind to those who stood by him (which is all you can ask of a man in his position), and actually known as a decent bloke all things said and done (which is a lot more than you can ask of a man in his position) - but Rooney? A brilliant player, but a player who put him in a very uncomfortable position back in 2010, and perhaps even a player who was getting a bit fancy when it came to his ideas about his importance and worth to the club? He'd give him a wee kick, sure. Maybe he even, on some level, hoped it would spur him on.
I don't know - but it's certainly possible. I'll say this, though: There's no reason for Fergie and Rooney to dislike each other long-term. Fergie knows better than anyone what Rooney meant to our success, far better than some of the twits on here who now find it convenient to downplay his contributions. And Rooney knows that Fergie made him what he is today: A player who may be despised by a large number of his club's fans (which is fair and more than fair; they're the club's fans, not his) but who is considered the best English player on the market, and remarkably highly rated by foreign managers for a player who has been more or less in decline for three years according to his most idiotic detractors.
Damn, another pro-Rooney rant, as it turned out. Sorry about that, it's the booze - I'm on my way to a shindig I don't particularly want to attend, you see, and I'm sort of drinking my way there.
If he did want to give Rooney's "arse a week kick", it would have been in the hope that the player kicked on and proved him wrong, rather than to settle some old score. I imagine it's more likely Fergie and his staff weren't happy with Rooney's condition when he came back to pre-season training last year. All the signs point to Fergie ultimately running out of patience with Rooney, rather than him harbouring an old grudge.
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