So Rooney isnt injured after all? What a surprise
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Richard Keys reckons that the only way that Rooney wouldn't leave United is if the club come out and say he never handed in a transfer request.
You have to wonder when all of this is going to come to a head. It must be soon one way or another. When you compare this situation, to that of Suarez, the silence in comparison is deafening. What is a worry is with the curtain raiser approaching on Sunday vs Wigan, Rooney is seemingly nowhere to be seen and has had no involvement at all with the first team squad. On top of all of that he has been selected at the first opportunity for England with the club still towing the line he is unfit. If the club thought he was unfit he wouldn't be allowed to go. If the club think he is now fit, then why is he not considered for Sunday?
All this avoidance and putting the matter off is doing no one any favours in my opinion. This needs to be bottomed one way or another publicly very soon otherwise I can see the start of our new era under Moyes going down the shitter.
All this avoidance and putting the matter off is doing no one any favours in my opinion. This needs to be bottomed one way or another publicly very soon otherwise I can see the start of our new era under Moyes going down the shitter.
It's obvious they don't want him heavily involved with the first team while his head is where it is. If he stays, it wouldn't surprise me if he went completely missing from everything for a month or two and suddenly came back into things after changing his mind.
But being picked for England (who have no way of assessing his fitness yet) means nothing, last year Aguero was picked and travelled to Argentina despite a hamstring injury. It infuriated Mancini but it is that national team's and the palyer's right to go ahead with the selection process, particularly if the injury isn't deemed serious. Moyes has said it was a knock which would keep him out a few extra days. Whether or not its true isnt relevant to the England selection because he'd be selected with a minor injury or not.
But being picked for England (who have no way of assessing his fitness yet) means nothing, last year Aguero was picked and travelled to Argentina despite a hamstring injury. It infuriated Mancini but it is that national team's and the palyer's right to go ahead with the selection process, particularly if the injury isn't deemed serious. Moyes has said it was a knock which would keep him out a few extra days. Whether or not its true isnt relevant to the England selection because he'd be selected with a minor injury or not.
Not sure I agree with that regarding England. If Rooney had an injury there is no way United would allow him to risk it right before the start of the season, least not in a meaningless friendly against Scotland.
Regarding his head being a mess that is fair enough, but there is not much time before the start of the season and this whole dirty affair needs sorting out very soon and very publicly.
"Wayne Rooney does not want to be here anymore, we will accept a reasonable offer for a player of his quality, nothing less. If we don't get an offer we deem reasonable, we fully expect Wayne to knuckle down and give 100%".
Say it Moyes, you know you want to.
Say it Moyes, you know you want to.
To get him you guys are going to have to pay decent money and/or include a player that we need.
If he is going to go the nearer this gets to the start of the season the better for United.
A player swap won't happen. We won't let go anyone you would want.
A Rooney transfer request followed by a £40 mil bid will get it done I reckon.
I would think that asking the club to play a reserve game to keep fit is not really painting the picture of a player heavily besieging his club and pushing for a move.
Quite possibly. I don't foresee a player swap either as they don't happen in the real world as they are too complicated.
£40m is around the right type of fee. United might do business then. I can only see the fee going higher the longer it is left though as what use is the money to United when the window is closed.
I guess if he does not want to leave and is playing reserve games, he'll feature in your game tonight or Sunday. At the very least he'll be there to support his long term colleague for his testimonial.
Wayne might as well be expecting Fergie to come out and apologise for this little misunderstanding.
Yeah, you'd think he'd at least play in Rio's testimonial depending on his injuries and Moyes using him wherever. It will tell us something if e doesn't. Not sure what but something.
Well, if that's all he wants, it shouldn't be a problem to satisfy him. He never did "hand in" a transfer request, as in formally requested a transfer - and the club has never claimed he did either, as far as I know. Fergie said that he wanted out, he didn't say that he had handed in a formal request.
I don't know how big a deal this is to Rooney. I suspect that if he wants out, he wants out for other reasons than that isolated episode. If he's really that "angry and confused" over what Fergie told the press it should've been possible to clear the air by now, one would think.
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The joke thing about Rooney wanting to be the main man is that he himself said Van Persie was our talisman (link). It was Rooney himself who built Van Persie up, just as he built up Ronaldo when he was here.
Rooney and his 'camp', his 'people', his 'entourage' come out with so much contradictory garbage that its very difficult to believe anything they put out there. People may think its cynical to believe that this is just another ploy to ensure that Rooney's last contract (approaching 30 it probably will be his last) is a mammoth sized contract but, clear away all the cak, that's exactly how it looks to me.
Rooney and his 'camp', his 'people', his 'entourage' come out with so much contradictory garbage that its very difficult to believe anything they put out there. People may think its cynical to believe that this is just another ploy to ensure that Rooney's last contract (approaching 30 it probably will be his last) is a mammoth sized contract but, clear away all the cak, that's exactly how it looks to me.
Chester, if they did it would definitely have been behind closed doors. There's no real point pulling everything out into the open. It's not really how the club operate. Or so we've seen in the past.
If Chelsea really want him, I see no reason whatsoever that we should give them Rooney without weakening them. We dont need money.
Losing Rooney for 40 million makes no sense to me. Throw in Mata and perhaps a deal can be made.
Losing Rooney for 40 million makes no sense to me. Throw in Mata and perhaps a deal can be made.
£40 mil will probably get United to start listening I reckon, not a bad place for Chelsea to start...
There is honestly zero confirmation that anything like that happening. It's all well and good to speculate and I'd say any break down in contract negotiations with the club has to be to do with the deal they would be willing to offer. But nobody is yet to produce any piece of evidence that Rooney's "camp" is briefing the media. Especially with the wummy state of journalism in general in this day and age.
How often do part exchange deals happen? Not often. Any talk of Mata came from bullshit rumours in the information wars after the first bid.
If Rooney does move, it won't involve players imo.
What Chelsea need to realise is Rooney has 2 years remaining on his contract. United make heaps of money for fun and are under no pressure whatsoever to sell Rooney on the cheap or also at the last minute unless the deal suits them in every single way.
What incentive to United is there to sell Rooney towards the end of the transfer window and to leave the money sat in the bank whilst strengthening a rival?
I think Rooney will only leave if United can pretty much ensure they have their own marquee signings in place. As things stand that doesn't seem to be happening which means Rooney goes nowhere.
What incentive to United is there to sell Rooney towards the end of the transfer window and to leave the money sat in the bank whilst strengthening a rival?
I think Rooney will only leave if United can pretty much ensure they have their own marquee signings in place. As things stand that doesn't seem to be happening which means Rooney goes nowhere.
The proof is in Rooney's failure to confirm the stories are untrue. He's done it before. If he wasn't angry and confused would he not come out and state this as it's not helping his image with Manchester United fans?
Yeah, that's not really proof is it.
He seemed very happy to quickly come out and quash talk of him removing 'Man Utd Player' from his twitter bio for 'nike athelete' or whatever it was. Maybe he didnt want bad publicity for his beloved sponsors
Rooney knows he is facially challenged and has had a chip on his shoulders since we had Ronaldo and now RVP.. bet he was happiest when we had Tevez.
Now if we had bought a striker that looked like Luke Chadwick, this whole episode will just disappear.
Possibly, although Rooney is hard faced and if his camp is to be believed, he has done nothing wrong other than ask if he was in Fergie's plans and offer to leave if he had no further use for him.
He may be keeping quiet as he is genuinely annoyed at the club.
The only proof would be him admitting it. That's never going to happen. Short of that we can only go on what we know. His failure to dismiss the speculation points to it being true. He has previous for doing so. I think you're being naive.
Allow me to clarify. Selling Rooney to Chelsea and failing to replace him with a player of equal or greater quality makes Chelsea clear favourites in my opinion.
It's a moot point for me anyway, as I don't believe we will.
I just don't get how not believing something that by definition cannot be proven is being naive. It makes absolutely no sense.
Paranoia levels are through the roof if you seriously believe that this has to be happening. It may well be but can't be proven at all... Mighty bizarre.
Indeed, and i think this is the crux of the matter for rooney and why he is keeping quiet-plausible deniability. With two years on contract its still in our hands, with our failure to buy anyone major it may force our hand into not selling him at all and gambling on selling him next year for a reduced fee. WHo knows what will happen in that year, RVP may get injured, rooney may get the position and 'love' he wants and by next year all will be solved.
If this was next year, he would probably be a lot more vocal.
also, by start of NEXT season, RVP will be 31 and Rooney only 28. If rooney hasnt had the season he had last season, we may be happy to give him another bumper deal. Keeping him for a year gives us options.
It's naive because you desperately want to believe Rooney hasn't done anything wrong when everything points to the fact he has.I just don't get how not believing something that by definition cannot be proven is being naive. It makes absolutely no sense.
Paranoia levels are through the roof if you seriously believe that this has to be happening. It may well be but can't be proven at all... Mighty bizarre.
He'll be 29 by that October so the age difference isn't that big. Plus Van Persie is currently way fitter than Roomey despite the extra years.
It seems that way. Why wouldn't Rooney dismiss what is very harmful speculation? He's done it before.yes, that's exactly I what I desperately want to believe, isn't it.
Looks like a man trying to convince himself Rooney doesn't want to leave.
Mourinho is loving stirring up trouble here with his quotes. He will do anything to get Rooney yet makes an abysmal offer, its obvious he's trying to cause problems. If we wants Rooney, make a decent offer or go away.
It's an observation of fact.
Why would he bother? It's between him and the club, it would be a bit weird of he was made to comfort the insane paranoia of a section of the fan base. You'd have players twitting every second of the day if they had to constantly be doing that.
The fact is Rooney will be expecting to play football come the start of September. Chelsea being his hope. Only way he'll be ready is by keeping fit. Offering to keep fit isn't indicative of wanting to stay.
One tweet to say everything in the media is bullshit. That's all it would take to help stop the damage being done to his reputation with the fans of the club if he wants to stay. He's done it before and it would take seconds and do a lot of good. He's done it before. You're living in a fantasy.
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