Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Possibly but I still found them hilarious given I majorly dislike the twat. A proper professional would have seen that as a way to dislodge the guy ahead of him anyway and it was purely another excuse for poor Wayne to use. For some reason he seems unable to say that he wants a change of scenery (more money) instead resorts to petty excuses and comments.
Has there even been a single quote from Rooney? Isn't that what a lot of the fanbase is falling over themselves to see? Some actual here or there comments from Rooney?
 
essien +20 million or do we think he is a spent force?

think he played mainly at right back for Madrid

If we were looking for a swap deal regarding a midfielder - it would be Ramires. More dynamic. But it won't happen anyway.

Cash or nothing will be the car I'm sure
 
Has there even been a single quote from Rooney? Isn't that what a lot of the fanbase is falling over themselves to see? Some actual here or there comments from Rooney?
Is there a reason behind his silence? You will say he doesn't have to answer to the media but the club have just rejected a bid for him, If he has no intention of leaving he should break the silence.
 
Has there even been a single quote from Rooney? Isn't that what a lot of the fanbase is falling over themselves to see? Some actual here or there comments from Rooney?


Another one who appears to be blind to Rooney's obvious PR tactics. The whole thing is made up and Rooney wants to stay then? Rooney's tired of all the media speculation and just wants to keep himself to himself? Actually wr8 probably believes that.
 
essien +20 million or do we think he is a spent force?

think he played mainly at right back for Madrid

Well past it now. The only Chelsea players I would entertain having here are Mata, Oscar, Hazard and Lukaku (possibly Ramires, though I'm not his biggest fan)... and I don't think they'd part with any of them.
 
Out of curiosity, what reliability has "Sports Direct News"? Is it one of those garbage sites with made up stories?
 
Thanks, Portuguese press was using them as a source for a possible transfer of Jackson Martinez to United in case Rooney leaves, but I went to the site and didn't find it.
 
essien +20 million or do we think he is a spent force?

think he played mainly at right back for Madrid
That's less than £30m they just offered us, Essien can't be worth more than £5m. He's done.
 
From a United perspective, do you think it was a bit harsh of Ferguson to leave this grenade in Moyes' inbox with his comments in the Swansea game (bearing in mind how cagey he was with sensitive info when he was manager)?

And if Moyes' comments regarding Rooney being back up for RVP weren't intentional, do you think they are disappointing and a touch naive (I know they were taken out of context, but it still doesn't look pretty even in context)?

No.
 
From a United perspective, do you think it was a bit harsh of Ferguson to leave this grenade in Moyes' inbox with his comments in the Swansea game (bearing in mind how cagey he was with sensitive info when he was manager)?

And if Moyes' comments regarding Rooney being back up for RVP weren't intentional, do you think they are disappointing and a touch naive (I know they were taken out of context, but it still doesn't look pretty even in context)?

Well what it has done is shift all the attention this summer off Moyes' arrival and onto Rooney.
 
If Moyes is expected to be a competent United manager then dealing with this sort of issue will have to be well within his ability.
 
Another one who appears to be blind to Rooney's obvious PR tactics. The whole thing is made up and Rooney wants to stay then? Rooney's tired of all the media speculation and just wants to keep himself to himself? Actually wr8 probably believes that.
I don't know.. Do you know? Because I was asking you if there has been any spoken word from Rooney himself...

"obvious PR tactics.." kind of sounds to me like 'A source close to me says..'


Is there a reason behind his silence? You will say he doesn't have to answer to the media but the club have just rejected a bid for him, If he has no intention of leaving he should break the silence.

Should he step out and give you a couple of quid at the tollbooth if he's behind you since you're taking to long rummaging around in your glovebox for change?

Yeah he should break the silence I agree with that but I don't really feel he needs to come out and do it pronto just to relieve a few fans who've gone a bit mental over this whole thing. Plus his name remains up in lights. Any PR department would be loving this outrageous coverage.
 
If Moyes is expected to be a competent United manager than dealing with this sort of issue will have to be well within his ability.


I agree. And it should have been dealt with very early on. None of this diplomatic shite of "We hope he'll be joining up with the squad soon" or whatever. Moyes should have got him into an empty room and stepped on his neck in a pair of golf shoes.
 
Should he step out and give you a couple of quid at the tollbooth if he's behind you since you're taking to long rummaging around in your glovebox for change?

Yeah he should break the silence I agree with that but I don't really feel he needs to come out and do it pronto just to relieve a few fans who've gone a bit mental over this whole thing. Plus his name remains up in lights. Any PR department would be loving this outrageous coverage.
I think it's more than a few fans, anyone with an interest in football has been watching this story and it wouldn't be 'pronto' as this saga has been going on for almost four months. Do you not think it would make Moyes job a lot easier if he came out and said that he was staying at the club?
 
If Moyes is expected to be a competent United manager then dealing with this sort of issue will have to be well within his ability.


Yep, and am confident he'l deal with it in a way that's best for the club.
 
TheRisingSun said:
From a United perspective, do you think it was a bit harsh of Ferguson to leave this grenade in Moyes' inbox with his comments in the Swansea game (bearing in mind how cagey he was with sensitive info when he was manager)?

And if Moyes' comments regarding Rooney being back up for RVP weren't intentional, do you think they are disappointing and a touch naive (I know they were taken out of context, but it still doesn't look pretty even in context)?

Not subtle enough wummery, sorry.
 
From a United perspective, do you think it was a bit harsh of Ferguson to leave this grenade in Moyes' inbox with his comments in the Swansea game (bearing in mind how cagey he was with sensitive info when he was manager)?

And if Moyes' comments regarding Rooney being back up for RVP weren't intentional, do you think they are disappointing and a touch naive (I know they were taken out of context, but it still doesn't look pretty even in context)?


No, I think the club's fed up of him and want rid and that's being made clear to Rooney. The "we wont sell him" etc is just a ploy to get the best money possible for him.
 
Paul Ince needs to pipe himself down and not talk about things that don't concern him
 
From a United perspective, do you think it was a bit harsh of Ferguson to leave this grenade in Moyes' inbox with his comments in the Swansea game (bearing in mind how cagey he was with sensitive info when he was manager)?

And if Moyes' comments regarding Rooney being back up for RVP weren't intentional, do you think they are disappointing and a touch naive (I know they were taken out of context, but it still doesn't look pretty even in context)?


If Rooney always was leaving, this might well have been an attempt to take it on his own cape by Fergie. And I think that's why he went about it the way he did.
 
I wish Roman would pull a crazy transfer madness, like Torres signing, and offer us Mata plus money for Wayne. Lets wait a little more and see if he goes full muppet.
 
i think he's been told to keep quiet by the club so as to not affect their bargaining position. I think we've agreed to grant his move but told him to shut the feck up whilst we arrange the best deal for us and if this is the case, fair play to him for doing just that. this has deadline day deal written all over it
he was a knob a couple of years back and was rightly criticised for it but I dont see what he's done to stoke anything up this summer at all
do hope we ship him off abroad though
 
Lou Macari has said the same thing. It doesn't matter who is saying it, Wayne Rooney should be man enough to let people know where he wants to be and where his heart is.

He's so tied up into his agents that he just doesn't do anything for himself other than play football and knock up his missus. Angry and Confused was quite vague for starters, if a grown man was that angry and confused by what Moyes said he would've let everyone know his actual intentions by now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think he's a scumbag or a cnut or anything like that, I think he's stupid and naive. Boy in a mans body.
 
We should sell him to arsenal, they bid £40m for Suarez they can bid £40m for Rooney.
 
We should sell him to arsenal, they bid £40m for Suarez they can bid £40m for Rooney.

As mentioned, they would NEVER pay his wages. Their wage structure seems to revolve around paying all their players around the same kind of amount. Rooney would be on twice as much as anyone else.
 
You don't think the club had a bit of forecast when they offered Wayne the new deal a few years ago? They just threw cash at him knowing that they may be broke somewhere down the track?

I don't think that it is important what club thought at that time. As it is I don't think that it is wise losing 60m just because we don't want him to join Chelsea

I can't see the Glazer allowing Rooney to walk out on free transfer but Ed said he wasn't afraid of players running down their contracts.

Ed was supposed to say that, but I doubt that this is the truth.

I don't agree, the cash doesn't bother me at all. Selling to a pl rival does and I'm rather shocked that so many utd,fans see this as a better option.

What we think and bother is unimportant at the end of the day and doesn't change anything but anyway I think that it is better to spend 60m on signing player/improving facilities/reducing debt/increasing wages to some players who want to play for us than in Rooney.

We're not going to "not play him" - we'll give him games. Rooney will also want to impress to ensure he gets into the England squad (it's a World Cup year, remember). Maybe we get a cut of his various image rights, too, such as appearances in FIFA games. He is already one of the highest earners in the world - he won't go to zero because of injuries and a lack of match-fitness. Ronaldinho is still one of the highest earners in the world, remember.

Rooney will go to World Cup regardless how much he play or how good (or bad) he play. Woy won't drop him. My replies were to people who were saying that it is better to not play him for two years (losing around 60m) than to send him to Chelsea
 
If Moyes is expected to be a competent United manager then dealing with this sort of issue will have to be well within his ability.


And he has done exactly that so far. Official sound bites coming from the club illustrate a manager in complete control of this situation and who might I add appears to have adopted the best interests of the club in :
1) Refusing to cede to the player's apparent demands for a transfer
2) Outlined his own vision of the role he expects the player to play in the coming season
3) Not letting one player distract the team's preparations for the forthcoming season by keeping him as far away as possible from the team's pre-season games through a combination of various pretexts and specially arranged matches in which when the said player has participated, have largely been low profile and behind closed doors. This has been crucial in not stocking the media circus around the player which may have otherwise engulfed our preparations.
4) Made it abundantly clear of the existence of a contract between the club and the player thus implicitly reiterating the value of such contract and other terms involved. This has in return limited the player's options to hiding behind the back of heresy proliferated largely by his advisers rather than the player mouthing off himself.
5) In doing the above, Moyes has made it clear to Rooney, his advisers and Chelsea of the club's reluctance to entertain a transfer unless it feels comfortable in doing so. This has been evident in the swift manner with which we have moved to reject their bids clearly stating our position and/or valuation of the player and above all showing who actually calls the shots in this scenario.

The bottom line is, the club continues to retain the luxury of dictating the terms of engagement in this whole saga and the player is probably aware of that, hence the hesitancy to come forward himself. United can afford NOT selling and can even opt for Di Canio-esques tactics in disciplining the player should he step out of line and NOT abide by his contract.

My take is that eventually, the injury excuses will run their course and the club will soon cease to protect the player and demand some kind of return from his employment here and in the event he fails to produce what is required of him, then Moyes may either ship him out or make his life a misery in ways Rooney has probably never imagined.
 
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