IMO selling Rooney to Chelsea will swing the title in their favour and for that reason the price should be minimum £50m! Abroad I would say minimum £35m.
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Thing is, Rooney would appear to want to go because he thinks he is being marginalised (whether true or not is debatable).
The thing that amuses me is how could SAF possibly have thought Rooney wanted a transfer unless Rooney said SOMETHING in that near mythical meeting, e.g.
"Boss, I'm concerned that I have been substituted frequently and played in different positions. Why?"
How SAF replied is kind of irrelevant, but what did Rooney say to make SAF think (even if mistakenly) that Rooney wanted to leave???
Ruud was on the bench from Febuary/March onwards he had 19 league goals halfway through the season and he finished with 21. He was no longer a key player Saha was ahead of him. Ruud was less important that year than Rooney was this year imo. We had more quality in the team Ruud left than this current team seeing as that squad plus Carrick won the league the next season.
We are debating different things, I have never said we won't survive without Rooney. My point was we wouldn't have won last year without him. All the reasons you have listed is why if he leaves the club will be fine, and is why I have said we should just get rid of him rather than dragging our heels over a price so we can get back to worrying about players who want to be here.
but to be honest, he could come out and say 'I didnt ask for a transfer, I want to stay' just like the other times hes done it.
Let's not dumb this thread down with science and facts. This is a thread for pure poker muppetry.
But seriously, thats interesting. Chelsea's win percentage without Mata
I still don't understand how playing as a #10 behind the striker like he's done the majority of his United career is now considered playing second fiddle to Van Persie. Was he second fiddle to Hernandez in 2010/2011 season?
Let's not dumb this thread down with science and facts. This is a thread for pure poker muppetry.
But seriously, thats interesting. Chelsea's win percentage without Mata
Yeah that's actually nuts!
Ours isn't too bad without Rooney...
I don't either. it's Rooney's excuse to leave
We really shouldnt accept a bid with cash only. They would be too strong - we should insist on weaken them too by demanding Mata. But then again, I cant see us selling him to our PL rival
Let's not dumb this thread down with science and facts. This is a thread for pure poker muppetry.
But seriously, thats interesting. Chelsea's win percentage without Mata
Usually you would say that these stats alone do not tell reveal everything and other things have to be looked at but tbh there is such a huge difference between the two percentages that it's crazy.
I think it's because Rooney wants to play as the main striker. He wants to be the main man but unfortunately for him, RVP has started well for United and has kept on going ever since.
Kinda imagine they would say that though after it's rejected. They don't want the players they allegedly offered throwing the toys out of the pram.
He never asked for a request in 2010 he questioned the ambition of the club, (completely laughable) and now he raised questions about his place in the team. Both times Fergie chose to go public for reasons only he knows. Fergie knew what he was doing, my only problem being he has left this all in Moyes' lap to deal with. The whole football world knows there is no love lost between the club and Rooney. He wasn't at his best last season so I don't see us getting his true market value. I'm not fussed this saga was old a month ago he needs to leave so we can focus on the what is happening on the pitch.
I don't want to let this drag on and one. Better sell him quick for 30m cash and find another replacement.
I highly doubt it's just been left to Moyes. He will be extremely clued up about the situation, and will have been before he even signed on with us.
When's Moyes' next presser? It will be interesting to hear something from the club now.
And a season doesn't start or end in February. The point being in his final season Ruud played the second highest amount of games in a season for United, he was obviously a very important player in that season, and we were facing a lot of doubt about our ability to attack to the same level because Saha was never at Ruud's level (and Saha is one of my favourite players of all time). The Ronaldo comparison was more significant one given he is a much better player and we weren't as prepared to deal with his loss. I personally don't see it, but yeah it is immaterial.
In that case yeah I'm not even going to get into that other argument then, I have absolutely no idea whether we would have won last season without his input.
Don't hold your breath.
"He's trained well. He's in the best shape in years. He has a chink in his eyes." It's be repetitive stuff.
What we don't want is this to drag on to the start of the season, that would be pretty diastrous in my eyes...
Let's not dumb this thread down with science and facts. This is a thread for pure poker muppetry.
But seriously, thats interesting. Chelsea's win percentage without Mata
Doesn't tell you who else was missing from the teamsheet though. Could have been depleted Chelsea sides on those occasions.
Moyes next step to claim City have offered £25 million plus aguero?
Why can't Moyes just unsettle all the players, everywhere? What's to lose? "Matic...Yeah he wants to come, texted me last night. Aguero...requested a loan last week. Goetze's already making sounds of discontent and Bale has just sent me a picture of his trademark heart with my face inside it." Imagine like 90 of these stories a day, all coming from Moyes or United. It would be amazing.
True, but it's a huge decrease which does atleast partly show how very important he was to them, more than Rooney is for us.
I remember quite a few games that Mata didn't start though and they weren't hugely depleted at all, apart from him not being there.
Would 7even approve these public moves? It's all that matters.
Exactly. I don't believe for a minute that Rooney is suddenly unhappy to be playing in the position he has played in most for United. I don't think the arrival of a bigger star has upset him either, he played second fiddle to Ronaldo for long enough. I certainly don't believe that he was upset by those comments by Moyes either, that's just PR bullshit to justify a move. Of course, our "we will not sell" position is equally bullshit PR nonsense.
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You highly doubt the choice of playing staff has been left to the manager?? My point is he came into this job with the Rooney issue which he didn't create. Fergie's comments did not help. He forced Moyes hand to an extent.
Love it
feck sake, letting James go and only bringing those players in?
Moyes is clueless.
No, i highly doubt it's just been LEFT to him. Your original comment basically made out like Fergie had created a mess then just left it to Moyes to deal with. I wouldn't be surprised if Fergie and Moyes decided this plan of attack together, and i certainly don't believe that Moyes has just been left to it by himself.
It'd be cleaner all round if Rooney left. Moyes can proceed without any baggage and do his own thing...as long as he doesn't go for Fellaini!
If we were to get Luiz and Fellaini you do know we would be the greatest team even in terms of giant crazy hair-dos. That alone is reason to pick Luiz over Mata.
Could we get Jason Lee and Carlos Valderamma out of retirement?
Breaking on SSN. Woodward has left tour in Australia to carry out 'important transfer business.'
To me, it's obvious that SAF wanted rid of Rooney, that convinces me it's the right decision.
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