Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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ghaliboy said:
Sometimes you can just be unlucky.
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You can't, when its something against United it means the worst is going to happen...always. We just suffer all the time, Rodney is off to Chelsea and will finally reveal he genuinely has always been a blue at heart.

Well, that is a certainty for 90% of the folks posting on here anyway.
 
Brightonian said:
As for him and Kagawa, the situation is entirely win-win. Personally, I think Kagawa is going to impress Moyes enough to be starting at #10. I also think Rooney might actually play best from a starting position just outside Kagawa.
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The problem being Rooney apparently has decided he wants to be an out and out striker. I can't imagine Rooney won't be complaining again if he isn't used as the main striker or just off the main striker in a majority of the games.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
You can't, when its something against United it means the worst is going to happen...always. We just suffer all the time, Rodney is off to Chelsea and will finally reveal he genuinely has always been a blue at heart.
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:lol: I prefer my "just signed a 24 year deal? Off in the summer.."
 
marjen said:
He must be dreading the Chelsea medical. Making sure they don't think he's injured.
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Rooney probably has a sprained ankle but the bumblefecks you call your medical team misdiagnosed him.

Come to Chelsea Wayne, our doctors didn't purchase their medical degrees online and one of them is even pretty sexy (Paco Biosca :drool:).
 
Brilliant eh, the Pro Rooney brigade will have their excuses ready for his mediocre performances next season.

"He didnt have a pre season"
 
duffer said:
Rooney probably has a sprained ankle but the bumblefecks you call your medical team misdiagnosed him.

Come to Chelsea Wayne, our doctors didn't purchase their medical degrees online and one of them is even pretty sexy (Paco Biosca :drool:).
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It's no use, duf - dressing JT in a bikini & having him wiggle his finger at Wayne won't work. Well, actually it probably will, so ignore this post.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Brilliant eh, the Pro brigade will have their excuses reading for his mediocre performances next season.

"He didnt have a pre season"/
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It's almost as if you're talking about a player whose individual awards don't include

 
duffer said:
Rooney probably has a sprained ankle but the bumblefecks you call your medical team misdiagnosed him.

Come to Chelsea Wayne, our doctors didn't purchase their medical degrees online and one of them is even pretty sexy (Paco Biosca :drool:).
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You leave him be, hell, the medical team still haven't even decided which leg to remove...
 
Stickles said:
It's almost as if you're talking about a player whose individual awards don't include

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:lol: touchy much? You had that saved and ready.
 
Leroy The Red said:
:lol: touchy much? You had that saved and ready.
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No I copy and pasted from his wikipedia page. I'm not sure how long you think it takes to use a mouse to highlight and click but there's surprisingly little preparation needed to do it.
 
SteveJ said:
It's no use, duf - dressing JT in a bikini & having him wiggle his finger at Wayne won't work. Well, actually it probably will, so ignore this post.
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That's plainly bollocks, Steve - and you know it: JT is far too young and supple for our Wayne.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Are you honestly satisfied with the consistency of Wayne Rooney's performances since August 2010? considering he is our highest paid player?

Bare in mind if you answer yes, you.re either a liar or delusional.
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I saw the white text but my answer is still yes.

He had a poor end to last season. But he's been the most consistent player at the club for eight/nine years. That counts for something.
 
Why the hell did they go and trained after a 9 hour flight?? Just play ping-pong and start the training the following day(today)..
 
Ekeke said:
What if... Moyes actually plays Rooney as a CM just like Sir Alex
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I would...I don't know what I'd do, actually. Perhaps burst into tears - or song.

Now, if he doesn't go to Chelsea, just on the off chance, you know - I think Moyes will mainly use him in a role where he can be dangerous, directly, in front of goal. If he goes for a narrower formation we could see a trio of sorts up front, consisting of Kagawa (L) RVP (C) and Rooney (R). That could be half decent. Provided we can set up a stable three behind them, that could actually be more than half decent. We could also try something like Carrick, Cleverley and Kagawa (as the most advanced) behind - and, say Welbeck, RVP and Rooney up front. Or, if you will (and I think he could be brilliant in such a set-up): Rooney (L), RVP (C) and Nani (R).

And both Rooney himself and Chicharito could play in the RVP role, of course. In a certain type of match we might also go for a Fergie style set-up with two wingers and any combination of Rooney, RVP, Kagawa, Chicharito and Welbeck (provided he finds his shooting boots) up front as more traditional striking partners.

I think Big Dave can get plenty out of our attacking players, in short.
 
Wayne Rooney will stay and win over Manchester United fans, says Gary Neville

Rooney’s future has been the subject of conjecture ever since Sir Alex Ferguson claimed on his final day as manager that the England international had asked to leave the club this summer.

That has been denied by the Rooney camp, but the striker was booed by some fans at Old Trafford during the title celebrations back in May and the player is concerned about the damage done.

But Neville, who played with Rooney for Manchester United and England, believes the fact he has returned to pre-season training under new manager David Moyes without any sign of agitating to leave is a positive.

“I was on the pitch at the end of last season when the boss [Ferguson] announced that Wayne had asked to leave,” said Neville.

“We were all surprised at the time, everyone was, but I am always hopeful. I think Wayne Rooney and Manchester United go together.

“He has to make his own mind up. The club will have a part to play in that. One thing about United, they never panic in situations, they always do things in a controlled manner.

“Although there have been rumblings about Wayne, he has come back into pre-season without much of a fuss. I think it’ll unfold in the next few weeks.”

Should Rooney resist the temptation to leave for a second time - he appeared to be on the verge of signing for Manchester City three years ago before signing a new contract at Old Trafford - some fans may hold some resentment.

But Neville argued Rooney is the sort of player who will quickly return to favour because of the way he plays the game.

“I think the fans will be fine with him,” said Neville. “He has been too good a player, and a great player for Manchester United, the fans accept that.

“Obviously they want players to be committed to the club and the one thing about Wayne Rooney is that, wherever he plays his football, and whatever is going on, he is always 100 per cent committed to what he does. He won’t have a problem winning them over.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...Manchester-United-fans-says-Gary-Neville.html
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Party line-ish enough from Nev, I guess. But he's right about the lack of fuss - from Rooney himself. His social media updates and whatnot have been very innocuous, one might say, whatever that could mean. To some I guess the less fuss he makes the higher the likelihood of something happening offstage. I'd say he's probably staying. But we'll see soon enough.
 
Stickles said:
It's almost as if you're talking about a player whose individual awards don't include

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Only one of those awards has come since 2011...
 
Not a great time for him to be picking up an injury, particularly when it seems from what Moyes was saying and he had good fitness at the moment. Now we are going to have to deal with getting him fit again during the start of the season.
 
If we miss out on Thiago, there's no way in hell I'd imagine Moyes and Woodward would be dumb enough to turn around and sell Rooney. That would make us look ridiculously weak.
 
Stickles said:
I saw the white text but my answer is still yes.

He had a poor end to last season. But he's been the most consistent player at the club for eight/nine years. That counts for something.
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A thousand times this. And at times since 2010, he's been as good as if not better than ever. In our CL knockout stage performances coming up to the 2011 final (and in the league during that period) he was absolutely unplayable. Walked all over Chelsea about three times in one month.

People have just got in the habit, since his 2010 tantrum, of habitually under-rating him. It's become as obdurate as the 'Carrick is a mediocre sideways passer' myth amongst non United fans until this season.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Are you honestly satisfied with the consistency of Wayne Rooney's performances since August 2010? considering he is our highest paid player?

Bare in mind if you answer yes, you.re either a liar or delusional.
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Well the second half of 2010 was shite given that he was injured and the whole contract thing happened. But pretty much all of 2011 he was easily our best player, spanning from the second half of the 2010/11 season where he gave us the final push to the title and to a champions league final playing behind Hernandez (one of his best spells ever for us) and then the following season he started off as one of the best in the world, getting a few hat tricks in a row, and being instrumental in our brilliant start to the season which included the demolition of arsenal and easy wins over Chelsea and spurs. Overall in 2011/12 he scored 34 goals was it? His overall play may not have been as good as in 2011, but that's still a great a,out of goals and again he was key to us.

Last season was his first in a while where he didn't have a lot of goals or he was generally below par a bit, and that is for the most part because of his stop-start season, being constantly injured on and off, and being shifted around. Still did pretty good mind you, with getting a decent amount of goals and assists.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Are you honestly satisfied with the consistency of Wayne Rooney's performances since August 2010? considering he is our highest paid player?

Bare in mind if you answer yes, you.re either a liar or delusional.
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So....... Danny Welbeck's contract upgrade was a complete fecking waste of time because of the 'shite season' he just had?? Total waste of money.
 
ghaliboy said:
I just realized this 'injury' will send the conspiracy theorists into overdrive.....
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Well, he was "injured" once and later claimed he wasn't injured, what stops it from happening again?
 
Good for the team that he seems eager to play.
Bad for the club's reputation that we allow him to stay.

I hate to admit it, but I really, really want to know exactly what happened behind the scenes this time. To me, that is far more interesting than our transfer policies etc. Right now, it seems to be a clash between Fergie and Rooney. Who do you choose to believe? For me it's a no-brainer that Fergie wouldn't lie to the media and cause ruckus right before he left. But what if he did? In that case, Rooney is innocent and we all owe him a big apology. But if Rooney did ask for a transfer, then I don't care if it was in the heat of the moment or not; I want him out.

Right now I'll have no choice but to believe Fergie, seeing as the man is my God. Which also means that if Rooney stays, he will be only United player I genuinely dislike. He'll be our Tevez... A player I hate to see in the starting lineup, but who has to play, because he's too good to bench consistently.

To the people raging right now: yes, I'm aware that Tevez is much, much worse. I'm only trying to make a point.
 
I don't think we would have sent him on tour if we were planning to sell ( unless there have been major developments). I think it is a genuine injury.
 
Mad Winger said:
Good for the team that he seems eager to play.
Bad for the club's reputation that we allow him to stay.

I hate to admit it, but I really, really want to know exactly what happened behind the scenes this time. To me, that is far more interesting than our transfer policies etc. Right now, it seems to be a clash between Fergie and Rooney. Who do you choose to believe? For me it's a no-brainer that Fergie wouldn't lie to the media and cause ruckus right before he left. But what if he did? In that case, Rooney is innocent and we all owe him a big apology. But if Rooney did ask for a transfer, then I don't care if it was in the heat of the moment or not; I want him out.

Right now I'll have no choice but to believe Fergie, seeing as the man is my God. Which also means that if Rooney stays, he will be only United player I genuinely dislike. He'll be our Tevez... A player I hate to see in the starting lineup, but who has to play, because he's too good to bench consistently.

To the people raging right now: yes, I'm aware that Tevez is much, much worse. I'm only trying to make a point.
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The point being 'I have no idea what happened but I'm gonna go ahead and hate Rooney anyway!' :confused:
 
Mad Winger said:
Good for the team that he seems eager to play.
Bad for the club's reputation that we allow him to stay.

I hate to admit it, but I really, really want to know exactly what happened behind the scenes this time. To me, that is far more interesting than our transfer policies etc. Right now, it seems to be a clash between Fergie and Rooney. Who do you choose to believe? For me it's a no-brainer that Fergie wouldn't lie to the media and cause ruckus right before he left. But what if he did? In that case, Rooney is innocent and we all owe him a big apology. But if Rooney did ask for a transfer, then I don't care if it was in the heat of the moment or not; I want him out.

Right now I'll have no choice but to believe Fergie, seeing as the man is my God. Which also means that if Rooney stays, he will be only United player I genuinely dislike. He'll be our Tevez... A player I hate to see in the starting lineup, but who has to play, because he's too good to bench consistently.

To the people raging right now: yes, I'm aware that Tevez is much, much worse. I'm only trying to make a point.
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I believe that if Rooney didn't ask for a transfer, he would have come out and said he didn't, like he did when Fergie said he was injured, and he wasn't. Rooney hasn't corrected Fergie. Moyes couldn't answer the question when asked if Rooney wants to stay. I think he wants to go, after stating only 2 years ago that asking to leave was the biggest mistake of his life. None of it really makes sense.
 
Eyepopper said:
The point being 'I have no idea what happened but I'm gonna go ahead and hate Rooney anyway!' :confused:
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I have some idea of what happened.. And based on the facts we have so far, Rooney doesn't come across as the good guy.

1. Fergie, the best man to ever live, said that Rooney has asked for a transfer. Why the hell would he do that if it wasn't true? Nothing good could come from that!
2. Rooney have had all summer to deny Fergie's comments. Why hasn't he done so?
3. Moyes seems to be dodging the questions concerning Rooney. Why not just say that Rooney is happy to be here and that he wants to stay, if that is in fact the truth?

These are all unfavorable facts for Rooney. Especially considering his history of retarded behavior.

Let it be known that I don't hate Rooney. Dislike him? Yes, but that is because he dislikes playing for us(or so it would seem). I don't want players with that attitude in my team. Especially if they're not even the best player(not even close).
 
ghaliboy said:
So....... Danny Welbeck's contract upgrade was a complete fecking waste of time because of the 'shite season' he just had?? Total waste of money.
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Funny thing is Danny being the only striker for Saturdays game might be a good thing for him. If he could get a couple of goals it might set him up for the season. Poor Danny spent a lot of his games out wide.
 
kouroux said:
Basically it's exactly that.
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Ahem..

1. Fergie, the best man to ever live, said that Rooney has asked for a transfer. Why the hell would he do that if it wasn't true? Nothing good could come from that!
2. Rooney have had all summer to deny Fergie's comments. Why hasn't he done so?
3. Moyes seems to be dodging the questions concerning Rooney. Why not just say that Rooney is happy to be here and that he wants to stay, if that is in fact the truth?
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Are these not legitimate questions that make Rooney look bad?
 
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