What have I misinterpreted...........Quotes please.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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What have I misinterpreted...........Quotes please.
Sparky's hypocrisy:
Roy Keane - "the greatest captain of the team in my era, ultimate professional, absolute legend"
Wayne Rooney - "colossal cnut, joke of a professional, doesn't deserve to wear the shirt"
Roy Keane - "the greatest captain of the team in my era, ultimate professional, absolute legend"
Wayne Rooney - "colossal cnut, joke of a professional, doesn't deserve to wear the shirt"
Hypocritical.......absolutely, you claimed I have misinterpreted Rooneys comments to fit my own agenda.........did he or did he not in his own words say he had been drinking over the summer and this had caused him to be overweight when reporting back for training? I apologise if I have imagined it and completely hallucinated the article, but I dont think I have.
A couple of bevvies does not add 7 pounds in a few fecking weeks, you have to be seriously caning it to get that kind of weight gain, which for someone who is allegedly a profesional athlete is completly unacceptable, especially in this era.
Maybe I am being harsher on Rooney than I would be on Keane but A: I freely admit I cannt stand the spud faced chancer, and B: When Keane was going on the lash the british game was still getting rid of the last remnants of the old school drinking habits that had been prevelant for so long.
So to sum up, Hypocryte? Guilty as charged, Willfully misinterpreting things....am I feck.
No mention of hypocrisy................
Why do you think it's about this summer? It's called 'My Decade in the Premier League'. Chances are if it's being released now then it was already completed by the time Rooney even came back for pre-season...
Did I say ANYWHERE in that post it was about this summer? DID I? From what I can remember it sounds like the summer of 2009/2010 but as usual you see the words Sparky_Hughes and Rooney and jump to conclusions.
How can you read this and not see he's talking in general?
Surely he would have said something more like "when I got back to Carrington for the first day of work, it was a shock."?
How difficult is it just to get over it, let it go? Holding a grudge about a football player to this degree is just unbelievably...I dunno, childish? Seriously.
Surely he would have said something more like "when I got back to Carrington for the first day of work, it was a shock."?
How difficult is it just to get over it, let it go? Holding a grudge about a football player to this degree is just unbelievably...I dunno, childish? Seriously.
In general or not, if he knows how easily he puts on weight, which again, he admits himself, he should be extra careful when not in Full intensity training rather than having the odd takeaway or "a few bevies". Its not like its a lifetime ban, as soon he retires he can gorge and drink himself stupid for all I care, after all he is unlikely to stioll be playing top flight football in 4/5 years
Dont tell me that, I KNOW, I wish I didnt care, Really I do, but I just cannt stand the dimwitted goon.
I reckon once you've actually admitted that you're a hypocrite, that's probably about the time to stop arguing the toss.
You do know that he also says that he burns it off within a week or 2, after preseason officially starts.
i.e. He's 83 kg right now. If he gets to 86 in the off season, he's back to 83 before we play Everton.
Just out of curiosity, who are you to be telling a professional athlete how they regulate their body and fitness? If that is what Rooney wants to do, it should be up to him and if he gets overweight, it's on him to fix it. He's a person as well as an athlete and he has every right to enjoy his holiday like how he sees fit, like you or I.
Look at pictures of Rooney at Everton or early United days. He was much fatter to the eye. No doubt. This is the most slender Rooney that I've seen.
Forget all this weight shit and lets just get excited about the prospect of having the greatest strikeforce the Premier League has seen.
Forget all this weight shit and lets just get excited about the prospect of having the greatest strikeforce the Premier League has seen.
jesus christ it's like some of you are top model show judges.
He's always been a bit of a chubby lad. I would be more concerned by his gradual loss of pace over the last few years though. It's not down to him suddenly putting extra pounds on and we may never know the exact reasons. The injuries didn't help certainly, remember the doctor before WC in Germany who said rushing Rooney can prove damaging in years to come.
Big season for him, some people really forget however bad his form is he's our talisman. The opposite set can't stomach any critique towards him which is equally annoying. He has to show his class once more and he'll do that. Say what you want but he is a fighter and rarely let us down (on the pitch) when it counts.
Big season for him, some people really forget however bad his form is he's our talisman. The opposite set can't stomach any critique towards him which is equally annoying. He has to show his class once more and he'll do that. Say what you want but he is a fighter and rarely let us down (on the pitch) when it counts.
For some people it is nigh on impossible to stop intense training and not put any weight on, without going hungry. You can't just crash diet because the physio told you to rest up for a month in the summer. Grow a brain.
I do find it interesting that Rooney has acknowledged he may one day play midfield, yet when that notion was put forward on here, it was viewed, on the whole, as laughable.
People's argument at the time, in fairness, was that you'd be limiting his best asset - his goalscoring (and creating). But we're in a situation where we don't need him up front as much, and if we're not going to play him up front, what's wrong with playing him in midfield? I dare suggest he's better than Anderson is there.
People's argument at the time, in fairness, was that you'd be limiting his best asset - his goalscoring (and creating). But we're in a situation where we don't need him up front as much, and if we're not going to play him up front, what's wrong with playing him in midfield? I dare suggest he's better than Anderson is there.
I always thought Rooney would dabble in the midfield and probably end his career there.
At this point he doesn't have the positional discipline and he needs to work on his defensive awareness there as you can't simply chase down the player nearest to you who has the ball.
His vision, long range passing and aggresion are all traits that would suit a midfieder.
I also thought he was better than people give him credit for in his games in midfield last season.
To be fair things were very different back then. Another United legend Robson is known for playing matches after being on the lash night before.
Fergie cleared others like Mcgrath when he came for the same but not him. But now he won't tolerate such conduct even if he had Ronaldo back at the club.
Rightly or wrongly, a different level of professionalism is demanded of players these days as opposed to before. Probably something to do with clubs paying them much much more money.
I still think myself that Rooney could be a central midfielder one day, obviously towards the end of his career. It's strange though because I'd have said it would happen when he lost that explosive side he has to his game. That seems to have really desserted him though in the past year or two.
He just needs to develop his positional sense to play there. I'd say that at times, when he played there he was sometimes too withdrawn. Being further back, he felt like he couldn't advance too far forward to where he usually was, meaning he wasn't always sure of when to attack the space. Players learn with experience in that sort of thing though.
He just needs to develop his positional sense to play there. I'd say that at times, when he played there he was sometimes too withdrawn. Being further back, he felt like he couldn't advance too far forward to where he usually was, meaning he wasn't always sure of when to attack the space. Players learn with experience in that sort of thing though.
Alright Cheesy, I think your right Rooney could play center midfield because he's such a special talent but I really hope he plays up top with RVP or in behind him because those are his best positions to influence the game and for me he's still our best player and a Hatrick against Southampton won't change that.
That would be a terrible suggestion. Maybe if Rooney works really hard on playing in midfield but now as of now. You make Anderson sound like Henderson. He's a good player.
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He's not good enough to play centre midfield. Not a top class midfielder anyway.. He'll be alright but don't expect great creativity because he hasn't got it. I'd prefer him to concentrate on being a Striker in the RVP mold, the older he gets.
I'm almost certain he would suffer badly in a 2 man midfield as it stands. He usually performs best when allowed to roam and would not be allowed to do so as much in a midfield 2. Why people would not want to see a Rooney/ RVP strike partnership is beyond me. Leave the midfielding to the midfielders
Good player. Hmm. Can we have some examples of these good performances he's put in or a regular basis to back up such a statement? Admittedly, he had a good start to the season last year, then Cleverley got injured, and he went to shit again. As it happened, he played well when everyone else did. There was a real reluctance to play him after that, partly due to his injury (was he injured all season? I know he'd overcome it by new year, even then Fergie preferred Rafael there to a partially fit Anderson).
Rooney has fantastic footballing ability. Passing, tenacity, shooting, technique, aggression, pace, strength, power. Sure, he'd need to adapt to enhance his ability to read the game (more specifically, defensively), but suggesting Rooney could be better than Anderson in midfield is hardly terrible is it? Especially if he was in a three man midfield. For most of the big games we'll be playing with a lone striker, supported by wingers and at least one advanced midfielder, why can't that midfielder be Rooney?
He had a fantastic start to last season, then had a couple of average games and then got injured.
The season before that he did very well in home games. Struggled in away games but then so did the whole team.
So of course he's a pretty good player. He's not average like a Henderson or Downing. He has great games and then also has some fairly poor ones. Inconsistency and injuries have been his problem.
Could be or is? If we had to play one in central midfield tomorrow you'd play Rooney?
Really? Why? Given that he will be around 32 by then? Also given that he isnt a natural athlete, and lastly given that in his new book he says he struggles to walk for the first half an hour after waking up the day after a game due to injuries he has suffered why is it that unreasonable?
He could very well suffer more injuries between now and then, you know football, it could happen to any player at any time. And if it starts to effect his quality of life why wouldnt he retire? Considering he wont need the money and has already won every club honour there is to win whats to stop him? Even I wouldnt want him to do serious and perminent damage to himself, so who could begrudge him retiering at 31/32?
Couple of average games? I imagine you're forgetting his and Nani's horror show at home to Galati? I was quite frankly disgusted by the way those two played. I can accept that players will have poor games, but neither of those two looked like they even wanted to play. Giving the ball away constantly and needlessly, and not getting out of second gear is inexcusable. It's that attitude that sent us out the Champions League.
You say he's a pretty good player, I wouldn't disagree, though I don't think I'd class him as any better than "pretty good", but that seems to suggest that if Rooney was a midfielder, he'd be worse than a "pretty good" player? Personally I disagree, and think he'd still make a very good footballer, albeit with some obvious weaknesses.
If we're talking about Wigan at home, I think I'd play Rooney. It's similar to the Rafael argument. Why play more defensive-minded players when it's not necessary? Realistically, how much of a threat are Wigan going to pose? Personally I think a midfielder, two centre backs, and two wing backs would do the job comfortably.
If you ask me, would you rather leave Rooney on the bench, rather than play him in midfield ahead of Anderson, I'd say absolutely not, get him playing.
I'd pick Anderson over Rooney easily in central midfield every single time. If Rooneys work hard and adapts then we'll see.
As for last season, if I'm not mistaken Anderson got injured only a few games after the brilliant start in which his level dropped. His and Nani's horror show? You mean like Carrick and Cleverley against Southampton? Or Rooney vs Everton or half of the 10/11 season? All players have poor performance. I'm sure you didnt find those "disgusting".
Carrick and Cleverley? Admittedly they weren't up to standards (as I said, players have bad games). Rooney always annoys me against Everton. Ferguson too, hence him never being played against them. He tried it this time and it backfired once again. And yes, I found most of his performances in that season appalling. Like Nani and Anderson vs Galati, he didn't look to give a feck either.
Sparky on a Rooney rant, don't see that often.
Sparky a lot of professionals struggle the day after a game. And the rest of your points could be aimed at any professional player. Why you single Rooney out i'm not sure.
Rooney will be a fantastic CM for us if he works hard. At the moment he's next to scholesy with range of passing. Couple years back, whenever he lost the ball from one person, he would chase that lad immediately and do his best to dispossess him purely because of the fact that THAT particular lad took the ball away from him. It's something younger childish footballers do.A bit spiteful too.He used to do that, don't see him do that very often nowadays. Maybe he's conserving his energy and playing a mature game but if he gets traits like those back into action I don't see why he couldn't be a very useful CM with a great great eye for a goal.
Scholes is a different class to Rooney when it comes to passing. People only make the comparison because Rooney likes spreading the ball out wide to a stationary winger, which many players are capable of. The passes Scholes consistently makes from deep in midfield, onto a moving wingers toe are a million times harder and this is where the comparison falls flat on its face for me. Rooney doesn't have the ability to make those passes.
There's a big difference between that post and "he is unlikely to still be playing top flight football in 4/5 years".
I just don't see it as something that's very obvious. His long passing is good but his short passing isn't brilliant. I'm not sure it's as good as Cleverley's who is very consistent with his short passing. Carrick's short passing is also very good.
Also, yes he used to chase the guy who used to disposess him used to end up fouling him after in anger. That's not great harrying, that's frustration. Harrying in a disciplined manner isn't easy. Not everyone who is willing can harry effectively the way someone like Fletcher would.
If he works really hard maybe he'll make a good midfielder. We'll have to wait and see. But like I said, given a choice, he'd be a last resort midfielder for me right now.
Ok, maybe unlikely is too strong a word, but there IS a more than reasonable chance.
I absolutely agree with you, but as we are in a thread called Wayne Rooney, talking about Wayne Rooney that is why the point was about him, putting all personal feelings about the bloke aside its a perfectly reasonable valid point.
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