Ferguson to the BBC: "He's unhappy about being taken off a few times... In top form he wouldn't be taken off."
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Hernandez doesn't start games, Welbeck doesn't score goals. Losing Rooney means losing around 20-25 goals a season and I'm not sure getting in a quality CM would compensate for that. If we sell Rooney, we could do with a replacement. And besides RvP is 31, he can't keep playing all the time. What happens if he gets injured? Rely on Hernandez and Welbeck?
Rely on Hernandez? Anyone would think he was a poor option for you guys. Hes a top striker, and should be starting more.
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I hope he doesn't go, I really hope.
But if he does, meh. He can feck off to a plastic pretender like Chelsea or City and join the long list of players who leave Manchester United and head downhill.
But if he does, meh. He can feck off to a plastic pretender like Chelsea or City and join the long list of players who leave Manchester United and head downhill.
I know. Made me laugh too.
wr8, don't get me wrong here mate. I have firmly been in your camp leading up to toady. But I just don't want someone playing for us who doesn't want to be here.
To do it once, was just about forgivable, but a second time for me shows that this will never end and he is best out of our club.
And If we played Hernandez more, then he would get more goals. His record is great, and has been kept out of the team this year due to RvP and Rooney. If Rooney is gone, the I wouldn't worry about where the goals would be coming from when we have Hernandez and RvP in our ranks.
I love Hernandez but if RvP was to get injured we'd have a front line of Hernandez and Welbeck. I'm not sure that would really work.
He just scores and scores and scores and still gets labelled as nothing more than a benchwarmer.
SAF loves merking to the last.
If I had to guess I'd say that he's made this rod for his own back in a roundabout way.
I think the first time was purely about money and his 'advisors' cooked up this bullshit about ambition to get him and themselves a hefty pay rise. They played on the feelings of a section of the clubs support and got what they wanted.
Now we've brought in a guy that's pushed him down the pecking order and I reckon this time it's coming more from him. He's a top player and it would've gutted him to be left out of our biggest games this season.
I don't think the situation is irreconcilable and I think this will be the first big task for David Moyes to resolve. New manager. New start. If he wants it to be.
I'd he doesn't then it would be a shame to walk out on a club where he's carved out a little piece of history for himself. The hat trick on his debut, the bicycle kick against city, the way he sacrificed himself in our successful European cup campaign.
He'd be missed for sure. Hard to replace a player like that.
I think the first time was purely about money and his 'advisors' cooked up this bullshit about ambition to get him and themselves a hefty pay rise. They played on the feelings of a section of the clubs support and got what they wanted.
Now we've brought in a guy that's pushed him down the pecking order and I reckon this time it's coming more from him. He's a top player and it would've gutted him to be left out of our biggest games this season.
I don't think the situation is irreconcilable and I think this will be the first big task for David Moyes to resolve. New manager. New start. If he wants it to be.
I'd he doesn't then it would be a shame to walk out on a club where he's carved out a little piece of history for himself. The hat trick on his debut, the bicycle kick against city, the way he sacrificed himself in our successful European cup campaign.
He'd be missed for sure. Hard to replace a player like that.
Twice he's asked to leave, the daft cnut.
Sell him abroad...and if he insists on going to Chelsea, refuse to and play him in the reserves.
Sell him abroad...and if he insists on going to Chelsea, refuse to and play him in the reserves.
Hernandez is a quality striker but has a RvP-Hernandez or Hernandez-Welbeck partnership ever really look convincing?
RVP is 30 in August i believe.
What has Hernandez ever done to make you think he does nothing but score goals?
In defence of your beloved Rooetta you have to put down the forwards who still care about United?
Hernandez is a goalscoring machine and Welbeck will likely return to his 2011/12 form. RVP is staying fi9t *finger crossed* and is focused on maintaining that, which is more than can be said for Wayne.
This is bad enough, just hope he doesn't force a move to a PL club.
I feel no hatred or resentment towards Rooney.
His time at the club was probably up whether he wanted it to be or not. After the season he's had and the frustrations he's suffered, I don't blame him from wanting to make a fresh start.
There'll be no boos from me.
Also, aw...
His time at the club was probably up whether he wanted it to be or not. After the season he's had and the frustrations he's suffered, I don't blame him from wanting to make a fresh start.
There'll be no boos from me.
Also, aw...
I'm not downplaying Hernandez at all. I've often said in his thread that he should get more chances than he does and that he's quality. All I'm saying is that he hasn't really ever formed convincing partnerships with RvP or Welbeck. And if RvP were to get injured, we'd have Hernandez who'll score goals and well Welbeck who isn't the best in the penalty box right now.
Poor lad.
I've been impressed whenever I've seen a RVP - Hernandez partnership. Hernandez - Welbeck probably wouldn't be enough as it stands, but that's more to do with Welbeck not really looking like a striker at the moment.
Why such massive worry though? If kagawa plays like he used to for Dortmund were in a good position. Besides, were going to spend if we sell Rooney so well probably get someone fantastic in his place. Hopefully someone who wants to play for us.
So that means we'll be in trouble if one of RvP or Hernandez were to be injured which is why I think we would need to replace Rooney with a striker and a cm.
Depends how we use Kagawa and actually line up really, I think he'll be fantastic for us next season.
If Rvp is injured then Hernandez plays in his place. Pretty good backup striker to have. Who is Chelsea's backup striker? Torres ?
Why would we need to sign a central midfielder because of Rooney leaving?
One things for certain. Rooney leaving now wouldn't be the massive catasteophe it was a few years back when he first pulled this stunt.
The massive fear that he's had his really top level days, and is physically falling away fast is hard to escape.
Having said that, would certainly prefer to keep him for a couple of years if he's happy, fit and really up for it.
The massive fear that he's had his really top level days, and is physically falling away fast is hard to escape.
Having said that, would certainly prefer to keep him for a couple of years if he's happy, fit and really up for it.
How long have we been talking about IF he can regain his form and WHEN will it happen but lets face facts here, hes another over-rated English player who was touted as being the greatest ever player and it went to his head. Personally I think hes a quality player but not world class and doesn't do it enough to warrant being called one.
Extremely disappointed, hopefully we can convince him to stay and get him back playing to his best.
If Rooney feels he needs a fresh start, I think another club would be lucky to have him. If he goes to Chelsea for example, it wouldn't be another Torres. He'd have renewed purpose and would get himself in peak condition I'm sure. He's still got a lot to give.
But we'd be fine without him as well. It could be the making of Welbeck and Chicharito, they're ready to step up imo.
But we'd be fine without him as well. It could be the making of Welbeck and Chicharito, they're ready to step up imo.
I think he just wants a change, as dickish as he's being I can still kind of understand his feelings. I'd love him to put the pride aside and rediscover his best form... but maybe that's just not possible at United.
Either way I love him as a player and wish him the best, I think he deserves it. I think Kagawa could have a great season next year after settling in this year and really hit the levels of a Mata or Silva. If Rooney leaving helps facilitate that it's no bad thing.
It's potentially more money in the kitty for a good summer too...
Either way I love him as a player and wish him the best, I think he deserves it. I think Kagawa could have a great season next year after settling in this year and really hit the levels of a Mata or Silva. If Rooney leaving helps facilitate that it's no bad thing.
It's potentially more money in the kitty for a good summer too...
Just not to anyone in England please, It'd be a disaster for everyone involved.
Can't we just thank the guy and leave it as that. This is a man that has showed nothing but 100 percent for us. We even turned him from a forever blue. Players move and quite frankly its probably the best time to get rid. We are not Arsenal no way will we sell to English rivals. His been well worth the £30m we've spent on him and lets be honest there are better 'strikers' out there than him at the minute.
The club will hopefully let him leave and in the process get a big transfer fee.His departure will mean feck all to me, unlike the previous time, we have the players to cope without Wayne.Thank for all your services Wayne.You have been a great Man Utd player and have contributed immensely to several trophies.
the thing is, is that he was alledgedly pissed off with being subbed a few times (refered to by ferguson), if he does change his mind, surely if he's not playing that well he will be subbed again? You can't have a player who sulks and throws his toys out of the pram everytime he is taken off as though he has a god given right to always remain on the pitch regardless of form. This is the last thing Moyes needs right now. The same thing will happen next season if he is subbed a few times...
....time to be subbed off and out of the club now I reckon, even though I'm the first to hold up my hand and say what a great player he's been for us. I think we've had his best years, physically he's not really a player who will last into his thirties as effectively. So..get a load of dosh from him and let him sulk somewhere else...
....time to be subbed off and out of the club now I reckon, even though I'm the first to hold up my hand and say what a great player he's been for us. I think we've had his best years, physically he's not really a player who will last into his thirties as effectively. So..get a load of dosh from him and let him sulk somewhere else...
He's having a laugh if he thinks we'll sell him to Chelsea
If he goes I dont think we will replace him with a top name like Falcao or Lew. We'll get Benteke or someone like that.
Aye. He is world class we can't argue with that.
This is going to be a very very long thread over this summer 
Surely he's not stupid enough to think he'll be going to City or Chelsea.. Hmm.
This is going to be a very very long thread over this summer
Hope not. I hope he's out the door as soon as the transfer window opens.
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