Wayne Rooney | 2007-10 Performances

[Mithun]

rooney was injured, but how does this explain the red card!

OTE=ecantona7;4162605]rooney was injured leading up to the world cup you fecking dumb twat and erickson still took him there.[/QUOTE]

 

[Mithun]

Forget position, a chance is a chance and a forward player is expected to convert. Cantona was very clinical and importantly score consistent and in the big BIG games. He inspired a MU side back then.

Cantona, Ole, Yorke, RvN were very clinical
Cole was slightly less as wass Sheringham but nonethless good finishers!

I don't rate rooney as a good finisher - nor Saha for that matter.

Not really, I'm quite happy with his goal return, I'd take what he brings to the team and his goals over a player who just scores goals, but contributes nothing to the team.

As I say, 70 goals in 170 games is very good when you consider where on the pitch he has played the majority of those matches.

You seem to fail to understand that Wayne Rooney is not in the same mould as a player like RVN, he is in more of a Cantona mould, he doesn't just stand on the penalty spot waiting to poach a goal, he comes deep and helps dictate play and create chances for others. Incidentally, Cantona scored 64 goals in 144 matches for United, a pretty similar record to Rooney's wouldn't you say ?

 

[RedNome]

Some wankers in here and I really can't be arsed with an argument so I'll say this and feck off.

Rooney is exceptional, and if anyone can't see that then they don't deserve to be associated with this fine club.

 

[el eric]

Some wankers in here and I really can't be arsed with an argument so I'll say this and feck off.

Rooney is exceptional, and if anyone can't see that then they don't deserve to be associated with this fine club.

Seconded

awful lot of shite in here

mostly from the same person mind

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Could get into any team in the world as supporting striker


Ronaldo Messi
Rooney
Drogba

 

[Sam]

Forget position, a chance is a chance and a forward player is expected to convert. Cantona was very clinical and importantly score consistent and in the big BIG games. He inspired a MU side back then.

The stats clearly show that Rooney and Cantona's scoring record is pretty much identical ffs! And to imply that Rooney doesn't score in the big games is just fecking stupid as he clearly does.

Cantona, Ole, Yorke, RvN were very clinical
Cole was slightly less as wass Sheringham but nonethless good finishers!

Ole and RVN were natural instinctive goalscorers, it was the biggest asset of their game, and what made them the best at what they did. So to compare them to Rooney, a player who is not a natural goalscoer is stupid. It's like comparing Scholes to Makalele. They are both midfielders, but they play different roles in that midfield.

You have to compare Rooney to other players that play the role he does, players like Cantona. And the stats clearly show that Rooney and Cantona's goal scoring record is almost identical.

If you can't see what Rooney brings to the team, then you either are not very clever, or haven't grasped the concept of football properly.

 

[Sam]

One question Mithun, did you rate Mark Hughes ?

 

[ih8cheatskiscum]

This Mithun dude is WUMing you all guys.

Either that or Rooney has offended him in some way

Personally

 

[FlawlessThaw]

I really don't like the bloke referring to us as MU, that's just one short of Man Utd

 

[Sam]

I really don't like the bloke referring to us as MU, that's just one short of Man Utd

I know, it's fecking disgraceful. But tossers like him don't realise.

 

[Mithun]

you contradict yourself - why do MU call thier channel MU TV? They are happy with the abbreviation - if it's good for the club, its good enough for me.

Finally i am concluded on this and expressed my points clearly. There is no further point getting into rows with fellows reds.

So this is my last comment on this thread.

I really don't like the bloke referring to us as MU, that's just one short of Man Utd

 

[Sam]

The going gets tough and he's off in a flash

you contradict yourself - why do MU call thier channel MU TV? They are happy with the abbreviation - if it's good for the club, its good enough for me.

Finally i am concluded on this and expressed my points clearly. There is no further point getting into rows with fellows reds.

So this is my last comment on this thread.

I assure you we do not think of you as a fellow red. You are a disgrace to Manchester United Football Club, and the quicker you feck off back to retardville, the better.

feckwit!

 

[Mithun]

you have no class! ( a great quote by RvN to Vieira)

So I say to you SAM you have no class!

The going gets tough and he's off in a flash



I assure you we do not think of you as a fellow red. You are a disgrace to Manchester United Football Club, and the quicker you feck off back to retardville, the better.

feckwit!

 

[Sam]

you have no class! ( a great quote by RvN to Vieira)

So I say to you SAM you have no class!

Last post eh ?

 

[Scholesy]

One question Mithun, did you rate Mark Hughes ?

What was Mark Hughes like as a player? Im too young to have saw him play.......Better than Rooney?!

 

[FlawlessThaw]

you contradict yourself - why do MU call thier channel MU TV? They are happy with the abbreviation - if it's good for the club, its good enough for me.

Finally i am concluded on this and expressed my points clearly. There is no further point getting into rows with fellows reds.

So this is my last comment on this thread.

Will ignore the point about the abbreviation as that is a load of nonsense.

On the point of there is no point in getting into rows with fellows reds, well sadly there are a lot of twats in the world. And there are 333 million reds in the world which means a lot of United fans will sadly be a bunch of idiots.

 

[Raven Blade]

At least Mithun has come out with a little bit of sense I can agree with. Rooney needs to be more clinical. That is an area he can improve.

However its clear you have some serious hate against him. Why? Did he ignore you when you wanted an autograph or something?

 

[Sam]

What was Mark Hughes like as a player? Im too young to have saw him play.......Better than Rooney?!

I'm only young myself, so haven't seen to much of him. The point I was trying to make is he scored 119 goals in 345 appearances, which works out at roughly a goal every 2.8 games, worse then Rooney's record, but is (rightfully) hailed as a legend by most. And I thought it would be interesting to see if Mithun rated him, given his obvious hatred for Rooney and his lack of goals. But hey, I guess we'll never know as he has run off.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

What was Mark Hughes like as a player? Im too young to have saw him play.......Better than Rooney?!

Mark Hughes was a cracking player, used to score a lot of spectacular goals. Goals that would be in equal measure to the long ranges goals Scholes comes up with. Brilliant at holding the ball up and was a terrier up front. Shares a lot of similar characteristics to Rooney.

In my opinion however Rooney is a cut above Hughes though.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

The goal ratio is a bit of a stupid argument anyway. Other than Van Nistelrooy United have never really had a striker who had a great goal ratio in recent years.

In some ways I prefer that, goals flying in from all over. Match winners all over the pitch.

 

[Sam]

The goal ratio is a bit of a stupid argument anyway. Other than Van Nistelrooy United have never really had a striker who had a great goal ratio in recent years.

In some ways I prefer that, goals flying in from all over. Match winners all over the pitch.

Well yeah, so do I, and I'd say most fans do.

I was just proving a point with the goal ratio thing.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Well yeah, so do I, and I'd say most fans do.

I was just proving a point with the goal ratio thing.

Sorry I was making a point towards Mithun's argument and in general people who have had a go at Rooney's "average" goal ratio.

 

[Sam]

Sorry I was making a point towards Mithun's argument and in general people who have had a go at Rooney's "average" goal ratio.

Oh, I see. Crossed wires and all that.

 

[GusHiddink]

Yorke - Definitely yes...

Hughes - Close but I think Rooney would get the edge because hes more adaptable

Cantona - Very hard to call but week in week out Rooney is more influential and is so reliant on moments of brilliance.

Solskjaer - Not as prolific but far more valuable in terms of workrate and ability.

Cole - No brainer. You'd go for Rooney everytime

RVN - Ruud couldnt play alongside another striker. Rooney can. So Rooney is by far the better option...

So out of those 7 I would say Rooney would be a first choice over at least 5 of them.

week in week out rooney is more influential than cantona was...erm really?

 

[GusHiddink]

Could get into any team in the world as supporting striker


Ronaldo Messi
Rooney
Drogba

apart from ours!! how frustrating i tell ya.

 

[olesmyhero]

So have we worked out that Crouch is better than Rooney yet?

 

[GusHiddink]

Rooney imho when he is on form is one of the best players in the world bar none, yes even better than ronaldo. But the last few seasons he hasn't been allowed to shine because he has not been allowed to play in his best position, that is in the whole. He did to a certain degree last season but he was often switched around ( i.e. played on the left right etc) and yet he managed to score 20+ goals and contribute a fair amount of assists. He is getting accustomed to playing in that main strikers role, before his second injury he was showing flashes of what was to come but many people seem to have forgotten that. Thank God that Ronaldo has been absolutely a rock when it comes to injuries but rooney has not been that fortunate, and each time its a serious injury that is difficult to come back from. He just needs the time and he will be back to player we know he is capable of becoming.

best post around from my scan.

However rooney never will be an out and out striker. the sooner he's played week in week out as a second striker the better for everyone.

The reason there is even room for doubt is the way we've misused him over the years..shoiving him left, right bloody everywhere.

Things like his long range shooting have undoubtedly suffered whilst other elements you can argue have improved. He's a slightly different animal to the one we signed... am i convinced we've handled him perfectly? no..not positionally hence the room for doubt.

I know plenty of everton fans who think he hasnt improved as much as he should have at utd.

What is important to note in all this is im talking relatively. i.e. rooney is an outstanding talent. Up with ronaldo when on form...but by those high high standards (e.g. best young player sir alex has ever worked with, best english player for a generation etc etc) then gentle questions are entitled to be asked.

Mithulooney, you though are mental.

 

[kf]

I see you've referred to us as this term in quite a few of your posts, as a Manchester United supporter it's disgusting really to refer to our team like that, can you not just use the proper name of the club and stop abbrievating it.

yeah the use of MU does grate a bit. I think you've shown him what's what with that video though.

Rooney is a gem of a player. We're lucky to have him. Can't think of anyone who I would want to replace him with.

Some people are idiots, I suppose we'd better just learn to live with it.

 

[mu77]

UNITED don't have a classic striker in the side - or haven't had since ruud left and saha well you all know that part. he's been played as a striker , left forward , right forward in other words all over the shop. it's down to personnel and who plays where. rooney is a player end of. he'll score his fair share in the coming months. how can he play as the second striker when UNITED don't have a first striker?

 

[OK enough.]

I will defend Rooney as much as I need to because I know how good he is. Some people, like Mithun, have the memory of a goldfish and forget all the good he continues to do for our club. I wont be able to rest until I see his current goal drought end (which hasnt actually been that long) and will keep willing the ball into the net when he has a chance.

Who is this mithun......who the feck is he? Mithun, do you hear me......you are fool, what do you want from Rooney, he is the one who scored against the European champions(AC Milan) at OT and won for us.

Rooney is world class...............and if you don't agree with me go and watch his goals and Contributions at UNited.

Mithun..............Go and get your facts right.......

 

[OK enough.]

The going gets tough and he's off in a flash



I assure you we do not think of you as a fellow red. You are a disgrace to Manchester United Football Club, and the quicker you feck off back to retardville, the better.

feckwit!

Ban the cnut. he is pretending to be a UNited fan....................

 

[ecantona7]

rooney was injured, but how does this explain the red card!

OTE=ecantona7;4162605]rooney was injured leading up to the world cup you fecking dumb twat and erickson still took him there.

[/quote]

he was injured LEADING up to the world cup and he is SO INFLUENTIAL for england that ericksson STILL took him there u feckin' moron.
Posters like u are a fecking disgrace not only to this forum but to all united fans everywhere.

 

[Diver]

i find it funny that Mithun has been exposed as the twat he is, and even has a thread about his dickheadish nature and the possibilties of a ban.

 

[OK enough.]

he was injured LEADING up to the world cup and he is SO INFLUENTIAL for england that ericksson STILL took him there u feckin' moron.
Posters like u are a fecking disgrace not only to this forum but to all united fans everywhere.

[/QUOTE]

I don't think he is a UNITED fan...........Arse Fan.

 

[OK enough.]

i find it funny that Mithun has been exposed as the twat he is, and even has a thread about his dickheadish nature and the possibilties of a ban.

where is his thread?

 

[AllhailManUtd]

Yeah I know what you mean about Scholes, he is a brilliant player. But I just feel we can cope when he isn't in the team and some muppets have even started saying he isn't necessary because of Anderson (those people are again muppets). However when Rooney is missing we're not the same team, just look at the stats 4 defeats this season all without our "Wazza". I fear for Sunday's game without him.

When you put it that way yes thats true rooney is definately more influential in the sense that we dont have quality backup for him. We have tevez but who takes over that empty spot, not saha because he is never fit.

 

[MUFCgal]

Does Mithun actually support Manchester United??

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

......... Put it this way - if Ronny had Rooney's passion and workrate he would score at least twice a game and would be regarded as better than Pele.

..........y.

That's utter bullshit. Ronaldo has both Rooney's passion and workrate, using it far better than Rooney ever has.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

1) Feck me Mithun is spastic!

2) Why are people using Ronaldo as a yardstick of how good or bad Rooney is? Ronaldo has been out of this world for the last couple of seasons. That doesn't stop other players being good, including Rooney.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Rooney imho when he is on form is one of the best players in the world bar none, yes even better than ronaldo.

Sorry mate. But that is bullshit. For sure.

But the last few seasons he hasn't been allowed to shine because he has not been allowed to play in his best position, that is in the whole. He did to a certain degree last season but he was often switched around ( i.e. played on the left right etc) and yet he managed to score 20+ goals and contribute a fair amount of assists.

That's a lie. He spent the majority of last season in the hole. Only playing wide, occasionally, in Europe. His spent most of his United career, barring this season, in the hole too.!Find another excuse for him not developing at Ronaldo's rate. For that one holds not water

He is getting accustomed to playing in that main strikers role, before his second injury he was showing flashes of what was to come but many people seem to have forgotten that. Thank God that Ronaldo has been absolutely a rock when it comes to injuries but rooney has not been that fortunate, and each time its a serious injury that is difficult to come back from. He just needs the time and he will be back to player we know he is capable of becoming.

This I agree with