Sam
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Actually you're the retard this time around. He was just quoting some previouos spastic who posted that bollocking statement.
Ok, my bad, but whoever posted it, is a retard, just like Mithun.
Actually you're the retard this time around. He was just quoting some previouos spastic who posted that bollocking statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S5k8-_Pnzk
No more need for words, just let this fecking video do the talking. This is Rooney at his PURE fecking best since he's joined us. Anybody who is doubting whether he's good enough to play for us, anybody who's questioning his talent or ability...........watch the video, then hang your heads in shame you sad, ungrateful dickheads.
I've taken the liberty of putting this into youtube tags, I hope you don't mind.
I've taken the liberty of putting this into youtube tags, I hope you don't mind.
It's very interesting to note that out of that list of 16 players, only 6 have a better goal to game ratio than Wayne Rooney, which is a goal every 2.4 games. Those players are:
Makkay - 2
Klose- 2
RVN- 1.6
Trez - 1.8
Ibrahimovic - 2.3
Tevez - 2.3
The rest have either the same, or a worse goal to game ratio:
Totti - 2.4
Nihat - 2.8
Podolski - 2.4
Del Piero - 2.4
Julio Cruz - 2.5
Anelka - 2.8
Torres - 2.5
Van Persie - 3.5
Adebayor - 2.9
Drogba - 2.5
That kind of dismisses your theory that the above players wouldn't miss the easy chances that Rooney does, don't ya think ?
rooney the man scored 23 goals last year and had 10 plus assist ... and he was everybit as good as ronaldo last season...if he didnt get injured he would be atleast 5 or 6 goals behind ronaldo or even neck and neck with roonie.
I think somebody needs to re-check your meds.
YES - i hear what you say - Whilst rooney is good in linking play (obviously y'day he was rubbish!) Kanoute ALSO excels in linking well with his midfield. Kanoute is a better finisher and has a good left foot unlike rooney. He also can take pens expertly for Sevilla and not the joke 'Michael Owen' pens rooney has taken for MU!
doubt rooney will get that many goals as some people think so here. He is not a free scoring player, goes long spells without goals, has problems with form and is not a freekick/ penalty taker and i cannot see him getting many aerial goals as well.
what's with checking the MU all time scoring list in relation to rooney's total goals?
if rooney took penalties --he could easily add 30-50 pens over 10 years at OT.
Shearer scored 61 pens. If Andy Cole took pens he would be closer to Shearer.
That's my point ---i doubt rooney will score a 'high' number of goals --he does not take penalties and cannot see him banging goals like Rvn as he's not clinical nor is his positioning good at poaching goals in pen box.
If you think Wayne Rooney is a player that's been this good at a young age just because of his muscles... He's the best forward in the country and he's been so for the past 3 years.
Rooney has been nowhere near top of the goalscoring charts in any year. Nor is he prolific or uniquely creative. So how has he been the best. Henry has been the best. Rooney has too many serious goal droughts and at times never looks likely to score. His failure to score for MU may prove costly in the title race. Have you considered that yet?
Torres or Huntelaar will increase places upfront at MU. Then SAF will have to decide whether to play an off form rooney.
well reasoned. He is not a natural athelete and he has put on weight even now and lost some speed. SAF will have to monitor Rooney's physical side.
your name says it all. why then is players like RvP, Fabregas, CR7, all in excellent physical shape? But rooney has put on weight?
Why is the likes of Saha (28) Henry (29) Anelka (28) all in excellent physical condition? Why is Giggs still in good condition? He still has some of his pace at 33. This will not be the case for rooney.
yes that is jUST my point ---rooney is not thin-boned and HAS and will continue to have a weight problem. Got that di*ckhead!
rooney when he dribbles rarely blasts past players. Players can keep up with him and get in tackles.
And yes rooney all credit works hard for the team---but he needs to use his head and play his position better. He needs to operate in the opponents areas and look to score more or get to the end of chance s rather than wander around everywhere all the time. MU have a very strong defence and have a covering midfielder always.
Goals/ assists/ creativity is what rooney should be judged on more than running left right centre.
rooney is no natural playmaker. His passing or awareness is not developed to that level. His shooting was his main weapon and he seems to have lost all confidence to shoot.
Scholes has the best gameplay and awareness and decision-making at MU. His game flows easily and effectively.
Whilst rooney plays in the hole he is no playmaker. He is too wasteful and not creative enough. Last seaon rooney got the highest assists at MU approx 12-14 assists. Yet the likes of Saha/ Park got about 8 assists each---playing a fraction of the time. 12-14 assists is poor considering rooney plays for MU --and plays alot of defensively weak teams in the EPL i.e Sunderland, West Brom, Charlton, Boro etc
Given how everyone makes out his special talent he needs to produce more special moments more and consistently to justify thi acclaim.
Thats right. Some said Rooney had a below par season last year.
First an observation - Roo scored twice in January - Villa and Reading. If he's sometimes looking awkward in front of goal it's not the kind of problem that gets fixed by scoring a tap-in - he's done that! His form tends to be patchy - let's hope he hits a red hot patch at the right time. He'll probably get about twenty goals for the season -which is a good contribution and if they're in the right games (ie: when Ron can't score!) may turn out to be a critical one.
The biggest problem Rooney's got is the sheer weight of expectations. Where do you go after scoring a CL hat-trick on your debut? Unless you're going to hit a century a season, people will always be wondering if the reality matches the fantasy.
Personally I was glad when SAF came out and said they feel Rooney's working too hard and it's time for the midfield to be providing the workrate (and the occasional goal) and for Roo to get a chance to focus on playing up front.[/QUOTE]
Completely agree with this point. While it's good to see Wayne putting extra effort in and getting back in midfield to help out, the midfield really need to up their game and start providing Rooney with service rather than him needing to trek back and do it himself. If he stays up front, get's the right amount of service, then the goals will flow thick and fast, mark my words people.
If rooney was class and proven - why can no one offer concrete examples of consistent performance?!
The argument is apparently in the last 3-4 years -Rooney has proved himself. Yet he failed to score for England or MU in the CL for approximately 3 years plus.That is a joke! Especially as England played some real weak sides i.e Estonia, Andorra etc. Even Ben Haim kept Rooney quiet in Israel - this is the guy that Torres destroyed effortlessly?! Rooney hardly has set the EPL alight and every season goes through several bad spells of not scoring, and also getting injured.
Now if i believe correctly rooney is regarded or is better than some of our ex strikers as he's more dynamic and creative and the clinching argument is that as he runs aroun this makes his special!!
so ronoey is knackered and its ok to lose the ball clumsily with a joke step-over outside the box with a goal chance on?
Rooney must be unfit - if he is knackered - as i've seen winger's i.e. Ronaldo - ride 3-4 challenges and line up powerful shots without any problems!
I am real glad MU have class match-winners so they can carry Rooney when he messes up for MU!
All this Rooney bashing is quite similar to the severe bashing that Ronaldo got a couple of years ago. I will defend Rooney in the same way as I defended Ronaldo by saying he is the second best player at our club and boy is he one heck of a player. Just needs to get stronger boots.
Agreed, though when scholesy is on form I'd say hes one of our best. But no doubting rooneys class, if it werent for the serious injuries he has he would be unstoppable at this stage.
Speaking of Mithun, he's getting all this venom directed his way and hasn't replied lately to it, where is he? Damn he must have crawled back up Joe Cole's arsehole.
It's very interesting to note that out of that list of 16 players, only 6 have a better goal to game ratio than Wayne Rooney, which is a goal every 2.4 games. Those players are:
Makkay - 2
Klose- 2
RVN- 1.6
Trez - 1.8
Ibrahimovic - 2.3
Tevez - 2.3
The rest have either the same, or a worse goal to game ratio:
Totti - 2.4
Nihat - 2.8
Podolski - 2.4
Del Piero - 2.4
Julio Cruz - 2.5
Anelka - 2.8
Torres - 2.5
Van Persie - 3.5
Adebayor - 2.9
Drogba - 2.5
That kind of dismisses your theory that the above players wouldn't miss the easy chances that Rooney does, don't ya think ?
Speaking of Mithun, he's getting all this venom directed his way and hasn't replied lately to it, where is he? Damn he must have crawled back up Joe Cole's arsehole.
Rooney - braindead? Are you totally fecking stupid? He's one of the most intelligent players I've seen in the premiership.
this analysis fails to include how many chances all the other players got in relation to thier goals in the games.
Mithun said:Also factor in that rooney plays for MU where chances are laid for him due to the strong support.
Mithun said:What i'm saying and this is the argument that he is not 'clinical' - this is what we see in most of the games he does not score when he should! y'day he had 8 attempts on goal and 1 was on target.
Mithun said:For example Ibrahimovic in a defensive league may only get 1 chance in a game whereas rooney DOES gets several chances.
Ladies and gentlemen, I introduce you to Wayne Rooney...
- Was the youngest ever goalscorer in the Premiership
- Was the youngest ever player to play for England
- Last minute wonder goal to end Arsenal's unbeaten record
- A fantastic Euro 2004, where he finished joint second top goal scorer, became the youngest player ever to score in the European Championships and carried England through the tournament.
- At the age of 17, becomes the BBC Sports Young Personality of the Year.
- Scores a debut hat-trick and gets one assist for Manchester United against Fenerbahçe.
- By the end of his first season at United, he had amassed 17 goals.
- Outplays Arsenal in the FA cup Final, hitting the post twice, only for Arsenal to steal the win on penalties
- Named 2004/05, PFA Young Player of the Year.
- Gets the winner infront of the KOP in a 1-0 win over Liverpool
- Scores the goal of the season against Newcastle with a wonder volley into the to corner. Infact, it's probably one of the best goals ever scored.
- Scored 2 goals and got MOTM in the league Cup final vs Wigan
- By the end of the 2005/06 season, he had scored 19 goals.
- It was this contribution that saw him named both Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year by fans and PFA Young Player of the year (again) by his fellow professionals.
- Became Manchester United's youngest ever captain when captaining the team in last years CL
- Scores a hat-trick vs Bolton at the Reebok Stadium
- Comes on as a sub and scores two goals against Pompey,one of which was a 25-yard wonder goal
- Scores 2 in a 4-0 win over Bolton
- Scores the 3rd and is instrumental in a 4-2 win over his former club, Everton, in a must win match for United.
- Scores against Roma away in the CL Quarter Final to earn United a priceless away goal
- Scores a last minute winner against Milan in the CL 1st leg Semi Final at Old Trafford to add to the goal he had scored earlier on in the match
- By the end of United Premiership winning season, Rooney is joint top scorer, along with a certain Cristiano Ronaldo, with 23 goals in all competitions.
- Sir Alex Ferguson describes Wayne Rooney as, and I quote, 'the best young player I have seen in my time'.
- Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure Sir Bobby Charlton once said that the only player that has EVER reminded him of Duncan Edwards, is Wayne Rooney.
- Has 70 goals in 170 matches for Manchester United, which works out at a goal every 2.4 matches, not bad for a player who can't finish, eh ?
If anyone has anything else to add, which I'm sure you will, given I can't remember everything the boy has done in his career, feel free to add to the list.
By the way, Rooney has played 23 matches this season, and scored 10 goals. That's about a goal every other match, which is pretty fecking clinical for fully fit player, never mind a player who's season has been stop start due to injuries and isn't even a 'natural' goalscorer, like the likes of RVN or Ole Solskjaer.
A few observations.
Vonlanthen is the youngest scorer for European Championships
Rooney was explosive and good in eu2004 but critically Croatia/ Switzerland were not the best sides.
Hat-trick vs Fenerbahce was great but again Fenerbahce were poor
Teddy Sheringham at 31, scored 17 goals for MU in 1997 - and Cole, Ole, RvN regularly scored this amount. The difference is likes of Cole, Ole, Teddy did not start every game the way rooney does - who therefore platyed more games.
In the FA cup - the TEAM outplay Arsenal, Ronaldo too excels its not a one man show!
His winner vs LFC is bundled in by Dudek!
His Newcastle goal is great! But Hamann scored a few like that for LFC and even won goal of season previously. There are players out there who can volley i.e. Scholes, RvP etc The question is why does rooney not power in these strikes?? He seems to miscue mostly!
Fairplay rooney does come alive in the run in and does contribute towards the EPL and CL. Note a strong finish does not mean he has been consistent over the season.
PS no mention of the long goal droughts for England, MU (CL) and also for long spells in EPL. I believe he did not score in 15 games upto the CC final of 2006! At present he's on 13 games and 3 goals.
PPS No mention rooney was poor in the wc2006 and did compromise England with a crazy redcard.
Rooney has failed to assist/ score sufficiently in the qualifiers for the eu2008.
By the way, Rooney has played 23 matches this season, and scored 10 goals. That's about a goal every other match, which is pretty fecking clinical for fully fit player, never mind a player who's season has been stop start due to injuries and isn't even a 'natural' goalscorer, like the likes of RVN or Ole Solskjaer.
An excuse for every occasion, eh ?
Please save yourself some face and feck off you stupid deluded feckwit.
in this simple question don't you AGREE that rooney should get more goals with the chances he gets?? If yes - it means then he's not clinical!