The attitude you mentioned is a criterion in the voting so you could definitely be right
Vinicius Junior
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Deserved what he got.. some of the reports suggesting all the parties he had planned, he told everyone that he is winning it and being a kid about it.
You dont have a right to win anything.. Real Madrid are always like this. So petulant.
You dont have a right to win anything.. Real Madrid are always like this. So petulant.
Good god I hate this twat. Such a spoilt baby.
Didnt he cry like a baby when he got injured in a CL knock out match?
I absolutely cannot stand him as a player on the pitch, but how this whole thing went down leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think we still need to see the detailed results of the voting and decision making, but if UEFA did some last minute changes that changed the winner, the optics would be catastrophic.
Its not UEFA who vote. Its journalists, unless you mean UEFA doctored the results.
Pathetic club, is there no professional pride anymore, World has gone to shit .....
His antics on and off the pitch don't exactly show strong mentality.
Hasn't Ronaldo cried before on the pitch/sideline? Would you call him mentally weak?
Being one of the best players for one of the best clubs in the world should tell you that he doesn't have a weak mentality. It's not really up for debate.
Obviously we're debating it, so it is up for debate.
If he wasn't mentally weak he wouldn't behave like shit on the pitch. Simple.
You're equating petulance with weak mentality. Vini may be petulant and whiny and even unsportsmanlike but there is nothing to suggest he has a weak mentality. This is a player that came from the Brazilian league straight into the Madrid 11 as a teenager and had to endure abuse from his own teammates to become the player he is today.
Great reply to a comment based on ignorance. Also I should add Vinicius was initially hated/ not liked by the RM fans because they thought the club had gone backwards by replacing Ronaldo with him. He had a difficult first few seasons, where fans couldn’t comprehend that a young player wasn’t the fully developed article and needed time.
In regards to the actual ballon dor. Vinicius is everything we love about football. The skills, the goals, the assists, the unpredictable things he does, how he embarrasses opposition etc. Even his contentious personality is something that adds to the human element. Fans love or hate him, but none ignore him. He is the type of player that makes football such an emotional and human game and current the best in the World at it.
Rodri on the other hand is simply a machine. Doesn’t really add any emotion to the game or take any way. Fans neither love nor hate him and most likely don’t even remember him after the match is done.
In a sport that’s about entertainment and winning, there should have only been one winner.
Rodri arguably insulted him with “you don’t have to be some crazy guy to win things”
You confuse passion/emotion with mental weakness. Mental weakness is when it stops you performing. Yet how often do Real Madrid win major champions league SF, QF matches after being behind?
Real is easy mode. See how he performs with NT.
People with strong mentality are not petulant.
What does he mean with "they're not ready"
SAF was pretty petulant to be honest. A more mature version of petulance then we see with players. But nonetheless lots of the things he complained about both on or off the pitch could be classed as petulance.
Roy Keane & Ronaldo two opposite personalities . Neither can be accused of being mentally weak. But both can be accused of being petulant. I can think of countless example.
Nope.
I don't know if Vini is your cousin or something, but he's not anywhere near SAF in mental strength.
Hes talking twatty BS that kids eat up. Its the same waffle that the likes of Nike peddle like its deep and meaningful because it doesn't actually say anything but idiots will give it whatever meaning they want. Gets people talking and speculating.
The inability to understand nuance in a debate is actually a sign of a lack of intelligence.
I think it's supposed to be something like "The world is not ready for the football excellence I'm about to unleash on it. Having denied me this award they will feel my wrath, that'll show them."
No, I'm just petulant.
Not too dissimilar to what happened to us in 99.
Incredibly unlikable player. Pathetic stuff all around to be honest.
Assume he’s playing the race card now. As in they aren’t ready to recognise his greatness due to his skin colour.
Despite the fact that they were awarding it to other black players like gullit, weah, rivaldo, Ronaldo all the way back in the 80s and 90s.
He’s crying like the giant baby that he is. Lovely footballer, but a petulant child. And Rodri’s clearly a better footballer currently too.
How does this make any sense at all? Are you implying it is easier to perform in CL against the best teams in the world than to play against Bolivia and Venezuela in the Copa America?
Never seen anyone with this much believe in himself other than Siu Ronaldo. Him saying he can do 10x better is madness. Who does he think he is? a Saiyan?
200+100 season incoming.
Vinicius is really sensitive to trash talking (r*cist insults are obviously excluded), and he just gave pretty much all of his opponent a golden punchline. Hope he gets a grip because he's going to hear jokes about his near ballon d'or every week.
This whole facade shows what's getting wrong with football, with a lot more emphasis on individual awards than team performance. It's part our fault by using this award in the Messi v Ronaldo debate for a whole decade, and also France Football's since they've latched onto this greater importance to win the Balon D'Or and increase the spectacle of it.
They've tried to make this award into a whole ceremony like the Oscar's, it's the anthesis of what football should be, which is a team sport.
They've tried to make this award into a whole ceremony like the Oscar's, it's the anthesis of what football should be, which is a team sport.
Didn't make any difference as Rivaldo won by a long way, while Beckham was well clear in second place. If anything Rivaldo's eventual total might have been impacted more as Figo was the nearest Barcelona/United player in 4th. And even if Beckham picked up all the 1st and 2nd place votes that Keane, Yorke and Stam collected, he's still some way behind Rivaldo.
Now the PFA Player of the Year Award that went to Ginola is a different story.
A post I saw on Reddit...
So his season wasn't even that good, relative to the elite from the past two decades and it has still brought on this ridiculous global tantrum.
The post also mentioned Salah from 17/18 who had 44 goals and 15 assists that year in 52 matches. Crazy numbers but he didn't win (he also won feck all that year in fairness). Vinicius had 26 goals and 11 assists in 49 games last year. Nothing "special" in terms of Ballon d'Or numbers.
So his season wasn't even that good, relative to the elite from the past two decades and it has still brought on this ridiculous global tantrum.
The post also mentioned Salah from 17/18 who had 44 goals and 15 assists that year in 52 matches. Crazy numbers but he didn't win (he also won feck all that year in fairness). Vinicius had 26 goals and 11 assists in 49 games last year. Nothing "special" in terms of Ballon d'Or numbers.
yes, because when Bayern outplays you and your mental giant forward cannot score, the ref can help you out instead.
Anyway, it's been fun seeing this mental giant having this hilarious mental breakdown.
As much as it’s petty to boycott, I hope Real properly just bin it off because other clubs then likely won’t be as bothered and people will stop caring so much for these kind of subjective and individual awards.
True , me being biased in favor of Beckham wining it clouded my memory.
He’s the best attacker in the world right now and has been for a while. But Rodri makes any team play better as a whole, he’s a monster, so people who are complaining about him winning aren’t right to do so.
He isn't even the 2nd best attacker in La Liga this season.
He has had good performances in the CL knockouts in the last few seasons. But he has never been consistent and dominant enough over a full season to be the best attacker in the world. His performances for the Brazil NT are abysmal.
Only thing we missed out is their live reactions to Rodri winning. Damn the person responsible for the leak
It was a close call It could have gone either way - either rodri or vinicius. they were way ahead of the rest. But the unprofessionalism shown by Vinicius and Real Madrid is a disgrace. we call it sportsmanship isnt it ? Accept defeat embrace the winner and work better for next year,. No one has any devine right