Viktor Gyökeres - Sporting Striker

FriedClams said:
Is it just me or does he almost look like he's a little overweight? He is very, very quick, so I googled to see if there was a picture of his physique and he's an absolute tank. Has he had any Van De Ven type hamstring issues?
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This is the other thing I'm seeing people say about him and I dont quite agree here either. I think he's about the same speed as Hojlund which is quick but not approaching that top speed category that Rashford is in and Mbappe tops

So he's fast and he's just as strong, neither of them tier 1 but together you have a powerful dribbler running at you quite fast and if he gets a shooting chance he'll probably take it

He's also very fast on EA FC which may be where it comes from
 
RedC said:
It would obviously be a great situation for us, but one of them would probably be gone in a few years. Not necessarily a bad thing if it's for good money after them playing very well.
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If Hojlund actually became a striker worth the money we paid, and Gyokeres was starting all the time then yeah eventually you'd be left with a choice. But thats assuming Hojlund becomes twice the player he is now, and if he does we'd get our more back or at least most.
 
Obviously should have gone for him instead of that Zirkzee guy but hey ho. Hope are in for him but I somewhat doubt it with Hojlund and Zirkzee on the books
 
Godfather said:
Obviously should have gone for him instead of that Zirkzee guy but hey ho. Hope are in for him but I somewhat doubt it with Hojlund and Zirkzee on the books
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He would have cost more than double what Zirkzee cost us. If we wanted him at a reasonable price we would have had to have signed him when he was at Coventry, which would have been a huge punt.

It still would be. He's only played and scored regularly in the championship and Portugal.
 
Ekeke said:
This is the other thing I'm seeing people say about him and I dont quite agree here either. I think he's about the same speed as Hojlund which is quick but not approaching that top speed category that Rashford is in and Mbappe tops

So he's fast and he's just as strong, neither of them tier 1 but together you have a powerful dribbler running at you quite fast and if he gets a shooting chance he'll probably take it

He's also very fast on EA FC which may be where it comes from
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According to Højlund, he argues he’s faster than Rashford. I’m sure they’ve tried in training a few times. Dalot and Rashford second according to him.
 
We should do everything to sign this guy.

Mount can play CM when fit, so Zirkzee can be back up to Bruno.

Hojlund can be the back up to Gyokeres.
 
Ekeke said:
This is the other thing I'm seeing people say about him and I dont quite agree here either. I think he's about the same speed as Hojlund which is quick but not approaching that top speed category that Rashford is in and Mbappe tops

So he's fast and he's just as strong, neither of them tier 1 but together you have a powerful dribbler running at you quite fast and if he gets a shooting chance he'll probably take it

He's also very fast on EA FC which may be where it comes from
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Rossa said:
According to Højlund, he argues he’s faster than Rashford. I’m sure they’ve tried in training a few times. Dalot and Rashford second according to him.
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Hojlund at his top speed is faster than Rashford, he just has slower acceleration.
 
RDCR07 said:
Gyokeres has a €60-70m release clause.
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That’s only in the summer and it’s verbal agreement not in writing, however you get the impression that the player would be 27 in June 202. He would want a 5 year contract, Arsenal are huge admirers and probably able to offer him £200-250k per week.

Sporting will want most of the money up front, I’m not sure United can do that however I don’t see this deal being allowed until Summer 2025, so by then United might know more about their financial situations. You do think that the coach will want the player and the player the coach so it could happen?
 
Hmzone said:
That's my take also. I think a lot of people are underrating Hojlund. Or perhaps I'm the one overrating him because I see ridiculous potential in him. He's definitely worth as much faith as any flavor of the month. Spending top money on Gyokeres would be a huge gamble that I'd be really happy to avoid.
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I see the same thing in Hojlund.
 
We need an experienced striker for at least 3-4 years while we develop Hojlund (or other young prospect). He fits the profile.
 
Rossa said:
According to Højlund, he argues he’s faster than Rashford. I’m sure they’ve tried in training a few times. Dalot and Rashford second according to him.
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According to Bolt Rashford beat him in the first 20 yards. I dont think its close with Hojlund tbh
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
The stats are there to see. You can't argue against cold hard facts.

Hojlund has clocked a higher top speed than Rashford. Dalot has clocked the highest top speed of any player at the club though.
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Very suspect stats and they always are when you look at top speed

An example is Solanke was ranked the fastest in the league

https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer...-players-in-2023-24-season-rasmus-hojlund-4th

I can tell you with Bournemouth my local club these days, no and he isnt in the top 20 in the league
 
Woziak said:
That’s only in the summer and it’s verbal agreement not in writing, however you get the impression that the player would be 27 in June 202. He would want a 5 year contract, Arsenal are huge admirers and probably able to offer him £200-250k per week.

Sporting will want most of the money up front, I’m not sure United can do that however I don’t see this deal being allowed until Summer 2025, so by then United might know more about their financial situations. You do think that the coach will want the player and the player the coach so it could happen?
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I’m sure Ruben is going to ship out a bunch of players next summer and get in younger, cheaper players so we might have funds available for one big purchase.
 
Ekeke said:
Very suspect stats and they always are when you look at top speed

An example is Solanke was ranked the fastest in the league

https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer...-players-in-2023-24-season-rasmus-hojlund-4th

I can tell you with Bournemouth my local club these days, no and he isnt in the top 20 in the league
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That's because acceleration is generally a lot more important in football, and players you associate with being quick usually have great acceleration rather than necessarily having the best top speed. It doesn't mean the stats are wrong.

The fastest man that ever lived rarely looked especially quick on a football pitch because you don't have many opportunities to hit your top speed, and being 6'5", his acceleration isn't the same as the 5'9" wingers and fullbacks you think of as being quick in football terms.
 
V.O. said:
That's because acceleration is generally a lot more important in football, and players you associate with being quick usually have great acceleration rather than necessarily having the best top speed. It doesn't mean the stats are wrong.

The fastest man that ever lived rarely looked especially quick on a football pitch because you don't have many opportunities to hit your top speed, and being 6'5", his acceleration isn't the same as the 5'9" wingers and fullbacks you think of as being quick in football terms.
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Thank you. Someone with sense.
 
RDCR07 said:
I’m sure Ruben is going to ship out a bunch of players next summer and get in younger, cheaper players so we might have funds available for one big purchase.
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You just get the following impression;

1. Ruben Evaluates our strikers and isn’t that impressed, too many missed chances, too selfish, don’t create enough for the other players and Rasmus too injury prone, he’ll suffer a couple of bad losses, pull his beautiful hair out

2. He’ll be tapping up Viktor Gyrokeres most weeks, Ashworth will say we’ve got a maximum of £60m in Winter available for a left Wing Back and CM, providing we get £25/30m for Antony or Casemiro.

3. He’ll play Rashford or Garnaucho at wing back just to pi.. then off so one of them puts in a transfer request probably more Rashford.

4. Maybe SJR sticks another £100m in the club for 2/3% so he can get Gyrokeres and Fransesco Trincao.

5. If he gets one or both of these players, you might find he gets rid of Anthony and Zirkzee.

I think from about 1st December expect the media to link us with at least 50 players from the Portuguese league? I do think we’ll sign 1 or 2 in January but I can’t see the club paying €100m for Gyrokeres?
 
Haven`t watched Sporting much but when you watch the highlights, he looks like a freight train!
Strong, fast, works hard for the team, looks arrogant and very confident in front of goal. Just hammers it past the keeper.
Looks tailormade for the prem. Similar to Watkins in style imo.
You never know how players will adapt but would not mind us giving him a chance.
 
FriedClams said:
Do you think he would be better for us than Hojlund?
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I don't see why not. He is a great striker with barely any flaws in his game and he is a far more mature player than Hojlund.
It doesn't mean that Hojlund can't develop to become a Gyokeres type of player, but right now Gyokeres is by far the better player.
 
Ekeke said:
Been said about a million players who didnt do a lot in the end

Sesko ticks most boxes for a forward, but the most important thing especially to us would be goalscoring and he still has plenty to prove with that

Gyokeres still has to prove something too, he scores for fun in Portugal but is it the same in a top league or the champions league? We'll see. But hes much more of a sure thing for now with Sesko being more in the same category as Hojlund when we signed him

When we did so ETH stressed th importance of a proven goalscorer and in the end we settled for someone we hoped would develop into that. Gyokeres would be the more proven option here and Sesko the prospect. A year and a half on and we're still making the same choice with the same problem, so lets not do it again and risk having the same problem in 2 years.
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Like I said...it is about spotting talent and getting it at the right time.
 
jigen said:
Portugal League is League One level (except Sporting, Porto and Benfica). Gyökeres is a good player, but not a top. He is overrated: he is 26 years old and two years ago he played in Championship.
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Overrated? I would hope so.
Just to remind you a few years ago our 4th option for MD after Palhinha (Bayern), Ugarte (United), Essugo (19 years old blowing up in La Liga) was Renato Veiga, who never had the chance to play at Sporting because of the others...
I believe you might know him, best buy you've made this year.
 
AnotherLondonManc said:
Hojland can absolutely finish. He's got an elite conversion rate!

Where he struggles is receiving progressive passes and getting shots off. More an issue with our system than his ability imo.

If nothing else changes, Gyökeres is a no more useful option than Hojland, or any other striker.

Lets give our current front line a go in a hopefully functional attack before we splurge on this guy
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Yeah that would be a smart move before spending any more money on another striker
 
Another late bloomer that played in Portugal, look at Raphinha at Barca.

Even Evanilson which is not half the scorer Gyokeres is, is doing fine at Bournemouth.

I don’t see why Gyokeres won’t be a hit especially when he has the perfect physique for the Premier League.
 
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